pot odds & %%%%

[jonniek]

Hi All,

I want to take my poker to the next level, I have been playing a little while now and want to know the best way of learning/working out pot odds and percentages.
Are there any really good sites that can help with this?
How important do you think this is for progressing your game?

Thanks

[LongshanksED]

i found harrington on hold em explained it best for me

[TopPair2Pair]

hi dude. Professional no limit poker by sunny mehta et al has a great pot odds table in appendix. I will edit post to show it when on computer, posting from mobly at the mo.

I also have a spreadsheet which uses conditional formatting to help with memorizing pot odds, basically you type value in correctly and u can see figure, if its not correct u can"t see it. Imo only bother with like 3 to 10 outs. Pretty weird, I was bragging about it other day and I still don"t know my pot odds properly. fml I iz failing life.  Pm me email and I"ll buzz it over.

EDIT: (On computer now) table below, hope doesnt come out spazy, this partic one includes gives an opponent any 2 random cards as does appendix in PNL. Any good poker book will have a a decent section on pot odds. Once you grasp the basic mechanics its pretty simples. I am not sure how much of a % you should place on pot odds in MTT.... theres better players on here to answer that for you. Heads up in the place to practice imo.

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Outs Flop to River Flop2Turn Turn2River
01 4.08% 23.50 2.04% 48.00 2.08% 47.00
02 8.08% 11.38 4.08% 23.50 4.17% 23.00
03 11.99% 7.34 6.12% 15.33 6.25% 15.00
04 15.82% 5.32 8.16% 11.25 8.33% 11.00
05 19.56% 4.11 10.20% 8.80 10.42% 8.60
06 23.21% 3.31 12.24% 7.17 12.50% 7.00
07 26.79% 2.73 14.29% 6.00 14.58% 5.86
08 30.27% 2.30 16.33% 5.13 16.67% 5.00
09 33.67% 1.97 18.37% 4.44 18.75% 4.33
10 36.99% 1.70 20.41% 3.90 20.83% 3.80
11 40.22% 1.49 22.45% 3.45 22.92% 3.36
12 43.37% 1.31 24.49% 3.08 25.00% 3.00
13 46.43% 1.15 26.53% 2.77 27.08% 2.69
14 49.40% 1.02 28.57% 2.50 29.17% 2.43
15 52.30% 0.91 30.61% 2.27 31.25% 2.20
16 55.10% 0.81 32.65% 2.06 33.33% 2.00
17 57.82% 0.73 34.69% 1.88 35.42% 1.82
18 60.46% 0.65 36.73% 1.72 37.50% 1.67
19 63.01% 0.59 38.78% 1.58 39.58% 1.53
20 65.48% 0.53 40.82% 1.45 41.67% 1.40


Note: Its just worth memorising pot odds imo if you"re going to engrave anything.

A simples method for % is to use 4 and 2 rule.

Outs x 4 for flop
Outs x 2 for Turn  

[WarBwastardo]

Pot odds?  B****ks get your chips in man and don"t spare the horses.

Alternatively, the Harrington books I still think are the best tournament poker books around even if they were written before the game was invaded by thousands of Scandinavians with testicles that have barely descended.

Also think the Phil Gordon books are good; easily digestible, good to read on the toilet and so on.

[jonniek]

Cheers everyone...got some books and will give it a whirl.....wsop 2010 here i come

[maverick1]

a good book for some percentages and hand rankings is the full tilt poker strategy guide.

[WYoung83]

 The best book for begginers (im my opion) is "Little green book" by Phill Gordon.
Covers almost everything that you will encounter during tourneys, and is much easier and more fun to read than Harringtons very slow books. He explaines pot odds, expressed and implied in a more simple way. Trouble with Harringtons books is that he contradicts himself to much. for example the whole book is supposed to be about deepstacked tourneys, but lots of examples inside from hand historys are infact from $10 online sngs. And i for one, would be very surprised if Dan plays $10 sngs........