I think Steve has compounded this problem with his PM and now the manner of this thread, it was probably best left unsaid. I have bigger things to worry about than some bad etiquette in a game somewhere down south a few days ago
but for completeness my reply is below. I obviously had to have my say first but accepted his apology ..end of..move on!
Hi Steve
I cannot speak for Andrew but I"ll copy him in anyway but I think you caused a lot of offence to a lot of people not just us two.
As I said at the start of the day I play every comp I enter to win whatever comes on top of that is incidental to me. I think upon reflection you should have gone home but to use "I"m an updater" excuse to get behind the rail was poor and maybe APAT should have looked at that more closely.
As it happened I didn"t mind you on my shoulder as I quite enjoyed watching you sweat. However, as I"m sure you know, bad etiquette has no place in any sport never mind a "friendly" event such as this.
I realised it would be difficult to retain your composure as you have been pumped up all season for this but the incidents that stick in my mind are: -
When Andrew had his Aces cracked - I looked at his face and realised that he was visibly devasted, you failed to recognised that and the last thing he wanted to see is you fist pumping behind him.
When Andrew bust - again he is playing a comp to win and in any comp as you know you just want to get away from the table when you are out and you were in his face and I take my hat off to him for taking it so well.
Making me a target on the table - There were a few people on my table who had no idea about the rankings until you made it clear to them. This meant I had to prove to them I wasn"t bothered I changed strat and showed them more bluffs than I wanted too and this affected the way I wanted to play originally and this shouldn"t happen from the rail.
When Alan busted me - You jumped around like a little girl and then congratulated Alan in a big way, that was very poor form. Alan actually came over and apologised to me afterwards for that because he realised it was wrong.
I don"t begrudge you your win Steve you deserve it and to be honest I was speaking to Leigh earlier in the day and said I hope you do it as I know you want to experience a GUK but that didn"t mean I was going to throw my seat away. I had made my mind up if I did bink the seat I was going to offer you a percentage of any winnings because I knew you"d be devastated. I would also have had complete respect for your feelings. "Getting it quietly" is maybe a mantra you should follow in poker and also read the guys blog of the same name, Andy Ward one of the nicest guys you"ll ever a meet at a table and he wins loads.
I think you need to learn a bit of humility (and people skills) I know you are relatively new to live poker but outside of APAT that behaviour would not have gone unchecked.
As for your apology, it doesn"t seem like one to be honest. The title of the PM, the tone of the mail and the fact you have done it privately to just two people, it just doesn"t feel right. I lost count the amount of people (including your friends) who were apologising on your behalf yesterday and the amount of people who were also offended by your actions. So for me it would have meant more to me if the apology was more sincere and more public.
However, saying all that I am not a bitter person and life is too short to hold grudges, so I do accept and I wish you all the best in the GUK"s just let me know which one and I may come along and anti-rail Wink
