KK to a 3bet all in

[bigredders]

this is another case of "worst case scenario". The days of if somebody 4bets, he must have aces are long gone... a LOT of players get married to ak/aq/jj/10"s etc

what you have to remember is that if aces were shown, you made the hero fold. You look like a genius, its a great story to tell but the bottom line is that you will be losing in the long run if you continue to have that kind of thought process

[WYoung83]

 I am never folding KK pre flop with 40 BBs/ 100BBs or even 200 BBs. Im just not good enough after the flop to make a read based decision.

[mal666]

Technicaly, TECHNICALLY, isn"t the shove a 4 bet?

Your raise to 1500 is the 3 bet. But I"m  just being pedantic

i think of the initial raise as the 1st bet, or this that the blinds?

I hate the way this hand went and I actually hate having to debate it because in truth I know calling the all-in is all but compulsory. But if all I learn is how to describe raise, re raise, re re raise correctly then at least I"ll have learnt something.

I was still vainly hoping someone would come along and make a case for folding but meh...

I made the mistake of seeing the worst possible scenario in front of me instead of the more likely one. Put him on AA and folded....
It was almost as bad as can be - BB had AQ, UTG AK - the flop was "dealt" before I could stop it... no A :-(

As a side issue, what do we think of the shove with AKo in this scenario?

Raise,backraise,backraiseback.

[Dewi_cool]

obvious fold

[duke3016]

obvious fold

sorry it took a while to stop laughing  

[samuel_9]

obvious fold

sorry it took a while to stop laughing  

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