roll up, roll up, pick a number, any number!!

[mousebob]

I"m sticking !!
Origional raiser has AA & was trapping !!
Someone else has KK & is just a muppet.
You check & flop str8,shove, triple up & it"s all over.

[AMRN]

ahhhh ok didnt realise we were guessing your raise value...... i change my guess to 2880

sorry, didn"t mean to make it a comp. I didn"t shove.

I genuinely want to know what people think is a good bet size here
Why do you pick 500 steve?

I"m figuring the pot is 420. Over-betting the pot might look weak to some who may see it as a squeeze and think their big ace or mid pair is good for a shove. Raising any less than pot is dangerous as an early caller after you will give everyone else the correct odds to call - not what you want.... and overbet is more likely to scare most off, and keep few in.  If they all fold, c"est la vie - AA is always a hand to win small or lose big with.

[LongshanksED]

600

should be enough to get one caller. Both all in on the flop and his kings turn a set!

[Swinebag]

600

should be enough to get one caller. Both all in on the flop and his kings turn a set!

I dont post bad beats on the strategy board.............












.......ever

[janc]

675

[deanp27]

666

[JamieCarra]

380.  because with your BB blind bet this makes roughly the pot, which would hopefully reduce the field to at the very most 3.  then pushthe flop, unless very scary.

A pot sized bet is actually 600 here.

I think we"re prob best overbetting slightly due to being OOP, and if we were to make it say 750, we still probably get 1 caller and it will leave us with a decent stack to pot ratio to shove 99.99% of flops.  If we were to make a smaller raise, and then the first guy calls, it"ll have a domine effect and we"ll up getting a million callers

[Cyntaf]

you either went 1200 or folded

[Waz1892]

380.  because with your BB blind bet this makes roughly the pot, which would hopefully reduce the field to at the very most 3.  then pushthe flop, unless very scary.

A pot sized bet is actually 600 here.

what did i miss?

[JamieCarra]

380.  because with your BB blind bet this makes roughly the pot, which would hopefully reduce the field to at the very most 3.  then pushthe flop, unless very scary.

A pot sized bet is actually 600 here.

what did i miss?

Pot = 3x last bet + all previous bets therefore

3 x 80 (ClaSsSiCk)
+ 80 (ysh3z)
+ 80 (Sari77999)
+ 80 (manuherra)
+ 80 (massu111)
+ 40 (dadlavlund)

= 600

[Waz1892]

380.  because with your BB blind bet this makes roughly the pot, which would hopefully reduce the field to at the very most 3.  then pushthe flop, unless very scary.

A pot sized bet is actually 600 here.

what did i miss?

Pot = 3x last bet + all previous bets therefore

3 x 80 (ClaSsSiCk)
+ 80 (ysh3z)
+ 80 (Sari77999)
+ 80 (manuherra)
+ 80 (massu111)
+ 40 (dadlavlund)

= 600

3 x time the last bet...........i"m lost?.. .why is this.   Even AMRN agreed 420.. and he miles better than me  

[JamieCarra]

380.  because with your BB blind bet this makes roughly the pot, which would hopefully reduce the field to at the very most 3.  then pushthe flop, unless very scary.

A pot sized bet is actually 600 here.

what did i miss?

Pot = 3x last bet + all previous bets therefore

3 x 80 (ClaSsSiCk)
+ 80 (ysh3z)
+ 80 (Sari77999)
+ 80 (manuherra)
+ 80 (massu111)
+ 40 (dadlavlund)

= 600

3 x time the last bet...........i"m lost?.. .why is this.   Even AMRN agreed 420.. and he miles better than me  

Because you are raising by the amount that is in the pot and this includes the 80 that Rob would need to put in to call

so imagine that rob put in the extra 40 to call, then add up whats in the middle, and he can raise BY this amount ie by 520 to make the total bet 600.

Go to any Pot limit table online and the max opening raise you can make will be 3.5X

[Swinebag]

I like the way this has become "what is the pot bet?" as opposed to "what would you raise to?"

FYI the correct "pot" bet would be 600. (though I couldn"t figure it out at the time)

I actually raised to 900, for no reason other than I couldn"t figure out what a decent raise was (hence posting it on this board) and that 900 was about a third of my stack, commiting myself to the hand.

I was happy to take this down preflop (it was a satty that paid 1 in 4) rather than betting too little and getting multiple callers OOP, which given the play I had seen so far, was extremely likely.

I think the superior bet in most situations, is what eck suggested (pot minus a bit).

Thanks for the replies

The result is irrelevant but I"ll tell you because it was funny.

I raise to 900, limper folds, original min raiser calls, then it went fold, CALL (now I was worried) but then fold fold fold.

flop came down 8 10 10.

I shoved

original raiser folded and the other guy called with 55 because I obviously had AK. No help for him, I double up (+ some) and went on to win a seat (where I then played pants and came nowhere!!)

[Claw75]

ahhhh ok didnt realise we were guessing your raise value...... i change my guess to 2880

sorry, didn"t mean to make it a comp. I didn"t shove.

I genuinely want to know what people think is a good bet size here
Why do you pick 500 steve?

I"m figuring the pot is 420. Over-betting the pot might look weak to some who may see it as a squeeze and think their big ace or mid pair is good for a shove. Raising any less than pot is dangerous as an early caller after you will give everyone else the correct odds to call - not what you want.... and overbet is more likely to scare most off, and keep few in.  If they all fold, c"est la vie - AA is always a hand to win small or lose big with.

My "answer" after reading OP and before looking at what anyone else said was also 500, for pretty much same reasons as above.