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« on: February 25, 2010, 14:44:54 PM »
Am I right in saying that because there is a professional game with 50 players running alongside the amateur event, means that the usual 150 runner field will be reduced by 50 APAT members ?
Will APAT have to change their name to APPT (amateur & professional poker tour?)
I would like to say, what made this particular site so appealing to me personally was how well the tour is run, by making tournament poker affordable, what worries me is do you think a 3rd of your field were looking to step up to the next level (professional event) if that's the case no worries.
But on the other hand if you are trying to attract the "bigger hitters" to the APAT site, I think that would definitely narrow considerably the chances of the folks that support the APAT tour making in to your live tournaments. I can envisage lots of regular APATers being disappointed; if the field is reduced to accommodate the professional event.                                                                                            APAT & the staff who do a great job had found a great niche in the poker market I just personally feel this change will be harder for the grass root players to qualify.
I know "clickfest" is first come first served but if there is 50 less seats available each event to accommodate the pro's wont this disappoint a lot of loyal APAT'ers ? (IMO)




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Re: live events
« Reply #1 on: February 25, 2010, 15:17:55 PM »
I"m going to have to re-read but I think it"s a 150 field for the Amateur comp (down from the usual 200).

I also have my issues with reducing the Amateur comp fields to run the Pro Series which, to be fair, could have been run on Sundays. If amateur players want to step up to the Pro Series, this should IMO free up more seats for those who haven"t been able to get in before. Unfortunately, this has not happened.

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« Reply #2 on: February 25, 2010, 15:22:45 PM »
Swansea is goin to be a squeeze to get 150 in but i think i could be done so i thought it would probably be 100 for the amateur but obviously other casino with bigger capacity should get 150 in

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« Reply #3 on: February 25, 2010, 15:39:04 PM »

I just personally feel this change will be harder for the grass root players to qualify.
if there is 50 less seats available each event to accommodate the pro's wont this disappoint a lot of loyal APAT'ers ?

I also have my issues with reducing the Amateur comp fields to run the Pro Series which, to be fair, could have been run on Sundays. If amateur players want to step up to the Pro Series, this should IMO free up more seats for those who haven"t been able to get in before. Unfortunately, this has not happened.


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Re: live events
« Reply #4 on: February 25, 2010, 15:44:36 PM »
Im sure it has been mentioned before that it is only 100 seats for the welsh event.

I also agree with this....for some events it is hard enough as it is to get into them, especially as i work evenings like i have done all this week so i don"t always get the opportunity to qualify.

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Re: live events
« Reply #5 on: February 25, 2010, 15:48:50 PM »
i think 5 day events for season 5 could solve this problem  ;D

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« Reply #6 on: February 25, 2010, 15:55:29 PM »
Found it..

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100 Amateur seats are available in Swansea, in addition to 50 Pro League and 50 Specialist Series seats.  The majority of the venues in season 4 will have 150 Amateur seats and DTD will have many more.  With the Pro League sponsorship package at stake, I expect a number of existing tour members to step up and play that.  That said, we can adjust the numbers easily within a week of the event, so if we only had 30 register for the Pro League, we would allocate a further 20 seats to the Amateur Championship event.
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« Reply #7 on: February 25, 2010, 17:24:00 PM »
Totally agree with everything said above, gettin a seat is the hard part, with a reduced numbers available it will be even worse, YES if anyone wants to try the next level go for it but it shouldn"t effect the vast majority of players who will struggle to get a seat ( shame really ) :"(

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Re: live events
« Reply #8 on: February 25, 2010, 18:53:04 PM »
I would be interested to know if these 50 seat "pro" events were an APAT initiative or something required by the sponsor?
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Re: live events
« Reply #9 on: February 25, 2010, 18:58:16 PM »


I just personally feel this change will be harder for the grass root players to qualify.
if there is 50 less seats available each event to accommodate the pro's wont this disappoint a lot of loyal APAT'ers ?

I also have my issues with reducing the Amateur comp fields to run the Pro Series which, to be fair, could have been run on Sundays. If amateur players want to step up to the Pro Series, this should IMO free up more seats for those who haven"t been able to get in before. Unfortunately, this has not happened.


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Also, as this is now just 100 runners, how many people do you think will make it to Day 2?  Will there even be a need for Day 2?
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« Reply #10 on: February 25, 2010, 19:03:53 PM »
Day 2 ??? now there"s a concept

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« Reply #12 on: February 25, 2010, 19:09:21 PM »
100 seats in Wales

29 seat won through the sats

10 reserved by betfair for their customers

& 2 reserved by APAT

leaves 59 seats up for grabs tonight

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Re: live events
« Reply #13 on: February 25, 2010, 19:22:04 PM »

I would be interested to know if these 50 seat "pro" events were an APAT initiative or something required by the sponsor?



APAT initiative, totally

Looking at the big picture, some of the regular APAT players will be looking to step up to the bigger buy in games which they play in regularly. Won"t mention names but I have quite a few in mind.

Also APAT wants to broaden its reach, and to do so (and via the association representing all players, the association being one of my tasks to invigorate for this season) requires accessing a variety of players...recreational, professional etc and therefore the Live event offer has to provide something for the Grass roots player and the Professional.

Of course we"re still restricted in a lot of places by venue capacities, but not in all places. It just so happens that the first event in Swansea is where this problem is most acute but as has been described elsewhere there are not a lot of Welsh venues to choose from with the commitment of Grosvenor Cardiff to Poker waning too that magnifies the problem

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Re: live events
« Reply #14 on: February 25, 2010, 19:23:58 PM »



I just personally feel this change will be harder for the grass root players to qualify.
if there is 50 less seats available each event to accommodate the pro's wont this disappoint a lot of loyal APAT'ers ?

I also have my issues with reducing the Amateur comp fields to run the Pro Series which, to be fair, could have been run on Sundays. If amateur players want to step up to the Pro Series, this should IMO free up more seats for those who haven"t been able to get in before. Unfortunately, this has not happened.


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Also, as this is now just 100 runners, how many people do you think will make it to Day 2?  Will there even be a need for Day 2?


Yes there will still be a Day 2. Couple of tables coming back