Alternates

[APAT]

The following was part of the English Amateur Championship Player Briefing. 

Alternates will be allowed the opportunity to take part during the first two levels.  

An additional prize of £75 will be created as a result of each alternate who is allowed to enter.  This money will be awarded to the players finishing directly outside the above prize pool, so if for example 4 alternates take part in the event, then finishing positions from 21st to 24th will each win back their buy in of £75.  The alternates will be chosen from the APAT controlled reserve list started at the venue at midday on the first day of play. 

This will enable a small number of additional members to participate in an APAT event.

Alternates have been discussed a great deal by the APAT team and our members. 

The decision to allow alternates to play was not taken lightly but we have based our decision on the fact that a lot of members regularly travel to APAT events and  join the reserve list.  This may give a few more of these players a chance to participate and given the huge demand to participate in APAT events, we felt the decision is a player focussed one. 

Alternates will start with 10,000 chips at the start of level three.  Historically, three or four players may be eliminated within the 25:50 and 50:100 levels.

[kinboshi]

Sounds like common sense to me. 

I can imagine there"ll be some opposition to it, but it looks like the most reasonable solution for all. 

I guess that people who are knocked out in the first three levels will not be able to buy back in as alternates?  Is that specified explicitly in the rules, although I guess it"s covered by the controlled reserve list for alternates being created from midday?

[TightEnd]

I guess that people who are knocked out in the first three levels will not be able to buy back in as alternates?  Is that specified explicitly in the rules, although I guess it"s covered by the controlled reserve list for alternates being created from midday?

No not allowed back in

[RioRodent]

Not suprisingly, I believe this is a good decision, well done gents.

However.... (I know some people are never happy!!  )

I am sure you have given this a lot of thought, but I don"t think creating one additional £75 prize place per alternate is the best way to go.

For future events, I would like you to consider making one additional prize, of £225, for each 3 alternates. I think most people would prefer one additional chance to pick up a prize that would go some way to covering their expenses for the weekend, rather than 3 chances of just getting their buy-in back.

[Ken Jude]

Isn"t that likely to be bigger than the last place payout in a tournament without alternates?

[RioRodent]

Isn"t that likely to be bigger than the last place payout in a tournament without alternates?

No, the bottom payout at Walsall will be £400.

[Tony1Leg]

will the Alternates be chosen on the day on a 1st come 1st served basis or in order they appear on the list?

[kinboshi]

The alternates will be chosen from the APAT controlled reserve list started at the venue at midday on the first day of play.  

A new list created on midday of Day 1 from scratch.

[Tony1Leg]

The alternates will be chosen from the APAT controlled reserve list started at the venue at midday on the first day of play.  

A new list created on midday of Day 1 from scratch.

well that helps lots.... thanks

[kinboshi]

The alternates will be chosen from the APAT controlled reserve list started at the venue at midday on the first day of play.  

A new list created on midday of Day 1 from scratch.

well that helps lots.... thanks

Are you being sarcastic?

The list will start from midday on Day 1.  So if you"re the first one there from midday on Day 1, you"ll be at the start of the list. 

Not sure what else you want me to say?

[technolog]

The alternates will be chosen from the APAT controlled reserve list started at the venue at midday on the first day of play.  

A new list created on midday of Day 1 from scratch.

well that helps lots.... thanks

Are you being sarcastic?

The list will start from midday on Day 1.  So if you"re the first one there from midday on Day 1, you"ll be at the start of the list. 

Not sure what else you want me to say?

Let"s try to dispel any confusion...

There is a reserve"s list in existence at the moment. If any entrants inform APAT before the first day (Nov 3) of their inability to attend Walsall then APAT will offer the place to the next name on the reserve list and so on down the list.

However, at midday on Nov 3 that reserve list is torn up and a new one created - let"s call it the Alternates list - on a first come (first to arrive at Walsall) first served basis.

As people get knocked out (or inform APAT that they"re not coming) alternates from the new list will be offered a seat. There is a limit on this I believe - first 2 (or 4?) levels only.

If I"ve got anything wrong please feel free to correct me.

[kinboshi]

I"m sure that"s saying the same as I did Jack?

New list, from scratch, starting at midday on Day 1.

[Jon MW]

I"m sure that"s saying the same as I did Jack?

New list, from scratch, starting at midday on Day 1.

Yes, but he has gravitas and people take notice when he speaks

[kinboshi]

I"m sure that"s saying the same as I did Jack?

New list, from scratch, starting at midday on Day 1.

Yes, but he has gravitas and people take notice when he speaks

You can get cream for that.  I"ll PM him a link.

[TightEnd]

First 2 levels is correct

Jack and Daniel are correct aside from that..JackDaniel"s...........no,too early

Off to apply for the Leciester job now