Whats the right play here?

[LongshanksED]

1st hand if a pub league reginal final. 10 handed I know and I only know one person at the table. Starting stack of 7000 and blinds are 25/50

I"m on the button and a stranger opens for 550 in the hi jack. 1st hand for 11x bb  

I look down at JJ


What to do?

[AMRN]

Fold.

you might be ahead, or you might not.... but you simply can"t flat call here, and raising commits you to the hand. no need to play a massive hand for your tourney life this early with a marginal pair.  Save your chips until you find a spot where you can exploit your edge.

[WYoung83]

 Ask him if he ment to do this donk raise. Humilate him a little bit, then ask him if he wants to play heads up cash.....
Then fold.

[deanp27]

just jam and if you lose go to the bar

[Swinebag]

I think fold pre here, but definitely ask about the raise. There is a chance this was a live "misclick"

I have to say, as its a pub freeroll, I"d be tempted to shove them in.

[Marty719]

Shove shove shove for me - If he folds then there is just a massive amount of money to pick up for free, i think he calls with some worse hands (as Im assuming the quality is grim), ur racing with a lot of his stereotypical 11x opening raise.  If bust, ur in the right place.

[LongshanksED]

I did fold

Have about a Years experience o these pub players now and it seems once their married to a hand they don"t give up

my thoughts were, I may be ahead but if an over card comes then it"s a tough predicament, is he overly aggressive with a small pair and he shoves the flop when he hit a set. Also what bet size am I facing on the turn?

I decided it wasn"t worth getting into tough predicaments without playing with the villians for a while yet

[Marty719]

I did fold

Have about a Years experience o these pub players now and it seems once their married to a hand they don"t give up

my thoughts were, I may be ahead but if an over card comes then it"s a tough predicament, is he overly aggressive with a small pair and he shoves the flop when he hit a set. Also what bet size am I facing on the turn?

I decided it wasn"t worth getting into tough predicaments without playing with the villians for a while yet

Once they are married to a hand they don;t give up = shove
I may be ahead but if an over card comes then it"s a tough predicament = shove
is he overly aggressive with a small pair = shove

All of the above points you use as an argument for folding, but I think ur reasoning is a bit off.  If all the above is true then Im pretty sure you shud be getting ur £ in.

I think it goes shove>3/b small>fold>>>>>>>>>>>>>>call

[deanp27]

too many nits ITT, what hands do you think he opens 11x with

[JamieCarra]

Make it 2000 - 2500 > Shove > Call > Stab yourself in the eye > Fold

[TheSnapper]

I did fold

Have about a Years experience o these pub players now and it seems once their married to a hand they don"t give up

my thoughts were, I may be ahead but if an over card comes then it"s a tough predicament, is he overly aggressive with a small pair and he shoves the flop when he hit a set. Also what bet size am I facing on the turn?

I decided it wasn"t worth getting into tough predicaments without playing with the villians for a while yet

Once they are married to a hand they don;t give up = shove
I may be ahead but if an over card comes then it"s a tough predicament = shove
is he overly aggressive with a small pair = shove

All of the above points you use as an argument for folding, but I think ur reasoning is a bit off.  If all the above is true then Im pretty sure you shud be getting ur £ in.

I think it goes shove>3/b small>fold>>>>>>>>>>>>>>call

Make it 2000 - 2500 > Shove > Call > Stab yourself in the eye > Fold

Curious what range either of you assign to villain here and rationale for that range given no info on villains tendancies.

Also, payout and structure of tourney are important factors.

[JamieCarra]

I did fold

Have about a Years experience o these pub players now and it seems once their married to a hand they don"t give up

my thoughts were, I may be ahead but if an over card comes then it"s a tough predicament, is he overly aggressive with a small pair and he shoves the flop when he hit a set. Also what bet size am I facing on the turn?

I decided it wasn"t worth getting into tough predicaments without playing with the villians for a while yet

Once they are married to a hand they don;t give up = shove
I may be ahead but if an over card comes then it"s a tough predicament = shove
is he overly aggressive with a small pair = shove

All of the above points you use as an argument for folding, but I think ur reasoning is a bit off.  If all the above is true then Im pretty sure you shud be getting ur £ in.

I think it goes shove>3/b small>fold>>>>>>>>>>>>>>call

Make it 2000 - 2500 > Shove > Call > Stab yourself in the eye > Fold

Curious what range either of you assign to villain here and rationale for that range given no info on villains tendancies.

Also, payout and structure of tourney are important factors.

Well I doubt he"s making it 550 with AA / KK / QQ.  I"d say his range is mostly small - mid pairs with lots of Ax hands.  ie we crush his range.

I"m guessing this isn"t going to be a well structured tourney so we can"t go passing up spots like this which are obviously +EV

[TheSnapper]

Well I doubt he"s making it 550 with AA / KK / QQ.  I"d say his range is mostly small - mid pairs with lots of Ax hands.  ie we crush his range.

I"m guessing this isn"t going to be a well structured tourney so we can"t go passing up spots like this which are obviously +EV

Intuitively, I would agree, but really, you can"t confidently nor totally rule them out either.

[Mikeyboy9361]

Well I doubt he"s making it 550 with AA / KK / QQ.  I"d say his range is mostly small - mid pairs with lots of Ax hands.  ie we crush his range.

I"m guessing this isn"t going to be a well structured tourney so we can"t go passing up spots like this which are obviously +EV

Intuitively, I would agree, but really, you can"t confidently nor totally rule them out either.

Defo can"t rule "em out in most pub games, where the standard is generally not great.

[Marty719]

Id say his 11x opening range from h/j is 22+ A2+ K9+ Q9+ J10.  Folding is way too nitty.  I hate flatting as well!

We cnt rule out QQ+, But:
a) they seem less likely w/ 11x.
b) they are part of a range which we crush.