Whats the right play here?

[Marty719]

I actually do think that folding is a bad mistake. When Doyle was talking abou folding jacks, he meant in deep, slow mtts with a good structure. As u said col, then u can fold if u think u have q big advantage on the table. The fact that this is a pub league makes a HUGE difference. People underestimate how much structure can alter decisions. Most pub leagues have 15/20min blinds and r missing a lot of levels. In that spot, giving up chances like this is massively -EV.

[coprey]

Marty, I totally see where you are coming from. Im just not a fan of shoving in the first level against bad players with a very vulnerable hand. To be honest im probably not going to play this situation very well. I hate throwing away JJ without seeing a flop, and agree a flat call is weak. I might test the strength of my opponents hand with a reraise, or possibly opt for a "weak" call, put id rarely shove in this spot. But what the hell this is a pub league final, the bar is open and a cash table is starting, all right then shove, shove, shove lol.

[AMRN]

I hate throwing away JJ without seeing a flop, and agree a flat call is weak.

Colin - the attached vid gives a good overview of how to play JJ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kP9CBtSW0kA&playnext_from=TL&videos=s8OKtzUGlwk

[coprey]

I hate throwing away JJ without seeing a flop, and agree a flat call is weak.

Colin - the attached vid gives a good overview of how to play JJ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kP9CBtSW0kA&playnext_from=TL&videos=s8OKtzUGlwk

LOL Some pretty awful JJ play here, together with some bad luck. Opening with a flat call, holding JJ is just wrong. Steve I missed what you reraised with last night, when you were called with A3.

[AMRN]

Steve I missed what you reraised with last night, when you were called with A3.

My cards were irrelevant - was playing the player and the situation, and not my cards. Didn"t think he was strong (correct) and didn"t think he would call (wrong).

[coprey]

Steve I missed what you reraised with last night, when you were called with A3.

My cards were irrelevant - was playing the player and the situation, and not my cards. Didn"t think he was strong (correct) and didn"t think he would call (wrong).

Not JJ then?  

[MintTrav]

My cards were irrelevant

Nothing changes.