Pocket Kings in a cash game

[ThinkerJE]

Here is the setup;

Just opened a $0.50/$1.00, 40-100bb cash table on Pokerstars and bought in for $100.  No information on any of the players and this happens on hand 3.

UTG raises to $2.50 and I find KK in mid position.  I 3 bet to $6.90 and the BB flats.  UTG then 4 bets to $15 total.  I flat to take a flop in position.  However BB is all in for $110 and UTG is all in for $190!!!  

$85 back and I tank.  What do you do?

[Newportlad]

Fold

Pretty sure that UTG has Aces here.  BB probably has AK.

[mal666]

Call.

[Paulie_D]

You don"t know the history between these two, for all you know they have been going at each other light.

I hate it but with a chance to triple up and cash out with the (current) second nuts I call and if one of them has AA then so be it.

For what it"s worth, I would have 5-bet/shoved it. The money is going in anyway might as well see if there is any fold equity out there.

[LongshanksED]

Pre I"m probably making $8. Your raise is pretty much a little more than a min raise

When UTG re raises I"m jamming it all in. I"d imagine the BB has a big hand or is set mining. Chances are with one raising Oop and the other flatting I reckon I have the best hand and probably up against 2 pocket pairs or one pair and an AK/AQ type hand  neither and If I put one on Ax then the chances of AA being held by the other is unlikely

Although I don"t hate the flat in position, I"m always re raising all in. BB probably had ak and your flat looks a bit weaker and he figures his squeeze with AK is at worst 50/50

[deanp27]

meh without reads i"d call

edit: also depends whether this is fullring or 6max = 6 max i"d get it in and not worry about it too much

[ThinkerJE]

meh without reads i"d call

edit: also depends whether this is fullring or 6max = 6 max i"d get it in and not worry about it too much

full ring game

[duke3016]

Call - but that"s just me  

[TheSnapper]

Its a high variance spot this. with $215 in the middle and $85 to call you need >29% equity to call.

Giving utg a tight range of AA,AKs,AKo and BB a wider JJ+,AKs,AKo, your KK has 35% equity and is a compulsory call.

Anyone think ranges are too wide?

[noble1]

no hand history?, especially a mangled up one like this, should be posted with pride..
Is it ok to call KK after seeing a 5bet shove and a call from the 4bettor? After playing it this way then yes

If u have played with these villains before and they happen to be decent regs [or at least the original raiser] and your 3bet range is around 2to4 % thinker, then a decent regs 4bet range will become very narrow...
The way i see it though without any reads [again] is that when he 4bets small ish with 2 others in the pot and himself in a sandwich, then his range has to look wider than a normal tags 4bet range , so how it plays out from there and the dead money in the pot , its a call...

[RioRodent]

Call - but that"s just me  

No... it"s me as well.  

[samuel_9]

Call - but that"s just me  

No... it"s me as well.  

and me all day long

[AMRN]

is this a serious question?  Don"t think I"m ever folding KK preflop in a cash game. Probably a leak, but there ya go.

[mousebob]

I must be the tightest player in APAT.....& I can"t fold.