flop set oop

[noble1]

villain is apestyles , how would u play it if in heroes seat... [hero thinks his image is tight passive]

Poker Stars $200+$15 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t200/t400 Blinds - 9 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

CO: t28387    M = 47.31
BTN: t10990    M = 18.32
Hero (SB): t27795    M = 46.33
BB: t7300    M = 12.17
UTG: t24247    M = 40.41
UTG+1: t6670    M = 11.12
UTG+2: t10714    M = 17.86
MP1: t5802    M = 9.67
MP2: t17912    M = 29.85

Pre Flop: (t600) Hero is SB with
4 folds, MP2 raises to t895, 2 folds, Hero calls t695, 1 fold

Flop: (t2190) (2 players)
Hero checks, MP2 bets t1225, Hero calls t1225

Turn: (t4640) (2 players)
Hero checks, MP2 checks

River: (t4640) (2 players)
Hero bets t2400, MP2 raises to t8888, Hero ?

[kinboshi]

Shove, you have a set

(Will read your OP now..)

[kinboshi]

Why the check on the turn?

[noble1]

hero planned to check raise, he wanted opinions on how he played pre and post, he had pm"d me on another forum with this and i had to lol tbh , he posted it on numerous forums and he got more feedback then i thought he would lol maybe cos it was ape i guess...

[kinboshi]

Dislike the check on the turn, and now as played I sigh fold on the river.

[Marty719]

I dnt like to fold river when:

-we check the turn
-the obvious scare card comes

Raising obv has no benefits.

Seems like a pretty trivial call.

Edit: - I prob fold pre oop against a tough villain most of the time.

[noble1]

Dislike the check on the turn, and now as played I sigh fold on the river.

I dnt like to fold river when:

-we check the turn
-the obvious scare card comes

Raising obv has no benefits.

Seems like a pretty trivial call.

fold river dan? safe i guess , like u marty i questioned after the line he took why didn"t he at least plan to cc river , i didn"t like his block bet on the river, it sets up a bluff and obv value reraises and gives hero tough decisions imho..
Would any1 consider turning heroes hand into a bluff on the river?

[Marty719]

No value in raising it as a bluff when villains range is so polarised!  I actually quite like the blocker bet to induce against aggro villains in this spot, but blocker-bet/folding rivers is generally a recipe for disaster.

ps - first hand we have ever agreed on!

[noble1]

lol i know u wouldn"t agree to folding pre-flop, he [hero] didn"t when i pm"d him back lol lol

[Marty719]

I def agree w/ folding pre oop against a good villain...

[Mikeyboy9361]

I would agree with the call Pre, you have a decent stack and you can afford to set mine. Having hit and being bet into on the flop, then IMO not betting the turn is a huge mistake, with various draws out there surely you must make him pay to make them.
With the huge scare card on the river, and the re raise, then it is a head in hands fold.

[noble1]

I def agree w/ folding pre oop against a good villain...

wowser , is this mARTY ??

[Marty719]

With the huge scare card on the river, and the re raise, then it is a head in hands fold.

Surely the fact it is a "huge scare card" means we have to call?

Also, i call against weak villains, but its very hard for this hand to be long-term profitable oop vs a good villain!

[noble1]

i dont think given the odds it"d be a profitable call marty against ape

[kinboshi]

With the huge scare card on the river, and the re raise, then it is a head in hands fold.

Surely the fact it is a "huge scare card" means we have to call?

Also, i call against weak villains, but its very hard for this hand to be long-term profitable oop vs a good villain!

Especially when we check the turn.