S4 WCOAP - Stud Event

[duncthehat]

Reading in the main thread that the Stud is pot limit?

For a game with so many betting rounds pot limit in the stud variant just turns it into a crap shoot!! because the hand values run pretty close, especially early on, and you rarely get all your money in as a significant favourite unless you have trips.

Pot Limit Stud is rubbish for the same reason that No Limit Omaha is rubbish - it just becomes a crapshoot.

PL Stud quickly decends into a game of who has the hidden trips, and who is foolish enough to call a scary board. Stud games are meant to be played limit.

Can we have some confirmation tighty of what we are actually playing!!

[Bainn]

Reading in the main thread that the Stud is pot limit?

For a game with so many betting rounds pot limit in the stud variant just turns it into a crap shoot!! because the hand values run pretty close, especially early on, and you rarely get all your money in as a significant favourite unless you have trips.

Pot Limit Stud is rubbish for the same reason that No Limit Omaha is rubbish - it just becomes a crapshoot.

PL Stud quickly decends into a game of who has the hidden trips, and who is foolish enough to call a scary board. Stud games are meant to be played limit.

Can we have some confirmation tighty of what we are actually playing!!

Quite sure it was Richard who said it was PL, I"d sooner it be limit but what can ya do ?

[stone]

the last APAT stud tourney at the Vic was Limit I am sure?

[duncthehat]

Yeah tighty has said pot limit in another thread.

Wanted to open a new thread as my question may have got lost in the thread.

will be over pretty quick if pot limit!!

[Paulie_D]

I questioned the Pot Limit part and, TBH, if I had known that when it was offered, I probably would have given it a swerve.

With the relatively small stack (6000 IIRC) this will become a shove fest pretty early on.

Tighty....are we SURE that this is Pot Limit? It"s very unusual to have this format....after all the HORSE isn"t PL is it?

If it is PL...them I"m assuming a 2 blind ante with no bring in etc etc?

[Jon MW]

I"m assuming there was a worry about the finishing time, that"s the only reason I can think of that pot limit would be chosen

[Paulie_D]

I"m assuming there was a worry about the finishing time, that"s the only reason I can think of that pot limit would be chosen

If it is pot limit my guess is that the finishing time will be about 4.30pm

[AMRN]

The only time Stud really works as a Pot Limit game is on a crazy cash table where gamblers want to shove their money around as fast as possible. 

Stud, and all of it"s variants, are supposed to be skill games, but they can only claim to be this if played with a Limit format.

It was played properly at the Vic two years ago, and the finish time was fine. Not sure why the need to hurry it along (and spoil it) this time round.

[Paulie_D]

Stud, and all of it"s variants, are supposed to be skill games, but they can only claim to be this if played with a Limit format.

+1

[duncthehat]

I dont think anyone that entered this expected it to be pot limit.  We have what 32 odd players at the moment, it will be over well before midnight as a normal limit event - unless jon woodfield makes it to the heads up!!

as pot limit with that many runners it will last 2 hours, 3 hours tops

[duncthehat]

Whoever wins will get no credibility.

There title will just be World Amateur Crapshoot Champion

[gomarrrahh]

 so glad i logged on this morning, was looking around on betfair wiv hope of getting stud seat. can"t work out the holding tank so came on here to see if any1 knows and i find this.

safe to say, i won"t b bothering if its PL.
please tell me the horse disciplines r limit in that event :l

[MintTrav]

Whoever wins will get no credibility.

There title will just be World Amateur Crapshoot Champion

I like the sound of that - might have a crack at it now.

[duncthehat]

Whoever wins will get no credibility.

There title will just be World Amateur Crapshoot Champion

I like the sound of that - might have a crack at it now.

i knew it was a mistake posting that

[Bainn]

Stud, and all of it"s variants, are supposed to be skill games, but they can only claim to be this if played with a Limit format.

+1

Agree.