APAT Season 5: Discussion

[Paulie_D]

Any chance of having a tournament where we don"t have a long journey?

London has been the only one anywhere near the South and that is halfway to the Midlands from here anyway.

Or compromise with a second one in London instead of going to some no-mans-land like Walsall or Bolton.

All you have to do is find the venue and suggest it to Richard or Leigh. Then again, I seem to recall that this has come up before and there wasn"t one willing &/or able to host it.

Either way, wherever events are held there will be long journey for someone. I don"t imagine our Scottish / Irish / Welsh/ N.England members are too enthused about London.

[Marty719]

G Casino Brighton...

[Gazza]

30 seconds to act with a couple of 1 minute time bank chips would be awesome IMO.

I think we"re slightly just a tad getting away from what"s reasonably practicable given APAT's budget and resources, and that it"s probably not possible to do this live anyway.

It"s very possible. Simple tourney timer on each table. Dealer hits the button after a few seconds if player doesn"t act. Two custom chips per player that they throw into the middle then the dealer adds an extra 1 minute to the timer. Not suggesting we use it for every event (although that would be my personal preference), but there could be a speed event at the Worlds.

Believe they did it for the Aussie Millions High Roller event this year.

[MintTrav]

All you have to do is find the venue and suggest it to Richard or Leigh.

They are well aware of most of the venues in the South; The Rendevouz, Gunwharf Grosvenor & G Brighton being the most likely.

Probably not aware of Shuffles:  http://www.shufflesportsmouth.com/card_room.php or The Phoenix  http://thephoenixclub.co.uk/schedule.html. Both entirely dealer-dealt.

Either way, wherever events are held there will be long journey for someone.

And?

How does that mean that the South should always travel to the North/Mids, but never the other way round?

[WarBwastardo]

30 seconds to act with a couple of 1 minute time bank chips would be awesome IMO.

I think we"re slightly just a tad getting away from what"s reasonably practicable given APAT's budget and resources, and that it"s probably not possible to do this live anyway.

Believe they did it for the Aussie Millions High Roller event this year.

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[Paulie_D]

They are well aware of most of the venues in the South; The Rendevouz, Gunwharf Grosvenor & G Brighton being the most likely.

Probably not aware of Shuffles:  http://www.shufflesportsmouth.com/card_room.php or The Phoenix  http://thephoenixclub.co.uk/schedule.html. Both entirely dealer-dealt.

If they are aware then, I would assume that, they have been approached and been turned away for, quite possibly, a variety of reasons.

Does that mean that the South should always travel to the North/Mids, but never the other way round?

Like I said, if the Deep South was an option, I would guess that Des/Richard have tried and we"d be there by now. Of course, perhaps they"ve pulled a rabbit out of the hat for S5...but on previous evidence, I doubt it.

And so the answer to your question is...YES. Sucks, but there it is.

[TightEnd]

All you have to do is find the venue and suggest it to Richard or Leigh.

They are well aware of most of the venues in the South; The Rendevouz, Gunwharf Grosvenor & G Brighton being the most likely.

Probably not aware of Shuffles:  http://www.shufflesportsmouth.com/card_room.php or The Phoenix  http://thephoenixclub.co.uk/schedule.html. Both entirely dealer-dealt.

Either way, wherever events are held there will be long journey for someone.

And?

How does that mean that the South should always travel to the North/Mids, but never the other way round?

Southern venues v difficult. Rendezvous Brighton don"t want us at a price we will pay, and the Casino GM doesn"t want us. G Brighton is a tricky venue. Portsmouth"s room was too small last time I looked


Take a line South of the M4 London/Bristol corridor and it isn"t easy.

We have some established venues, a few old favourites returning and a couple of new ones in the proposed schedule. Something to enhthuse everyone I hope

[Paulie_D]

And, on a final point, I don"t know about the additional venues that you linked to but it"s an APAT requirement that the venues are fully and appropriately licensed.

Another factor to throw in.

[TightEnd]

And, on a final point, I don"t know about the additional venues that you linked to but it"s an APAT requirement that the venues are fully and appropriately licensed.

Another factor to throw in.

even if a venue is licenced etc we need to have comfort that they can manage everything with us, efficiently. From capacity, to food, to TD, to dealers, to cashier to disabled access, parking etc

In essence, a venue needs to be an experienced provider of the services needed to put on poker events for third parties.

We can go to new places, but I don"t particularly want to take huge risks with APAT events and risk the player experience . In general less risk = the known providers. Although experience is no guarantee of avoiding cock ups (no names mentioned), it"s generally our policy to use established venues

[Paulie_D]

We have some established venues, a few old favourites returning and a couple of new ones in the proposed schedule. Something to enthuse everyone I hope

I can"t wait...perhaps I should get a ticker for the countdown..if someone (cough) was to let me know the announcement date!  

[MintTrav]

They are well aware of most of the venues in the South; The Rendevouz, Gunwharf Grosvenor & G Brighton being the most likely.

Probably not aware of Shuffles:  http://www.shufflesportsmouth.com/card_room.php or The Phoenix  http://thephoenixclub.co.uk/schedule.html. Both entirely dealer-dealt.

If they are aware then, I would assume that, they have been approached and been turned away for, quite possibly, a variety of reasons.

Does that mean that the South should always travel to the North/Mids, but never the other way round?

Like I said, if the Deep South was an option, I would guess that Des/Richard have tried and we"d be there by now. Of course, perhaps they"ve pulled a rabbit out of the hat for S5...but on previous evidence, I doubt it.

And so the answer to your question is...YES. Sucks, but there it is.

What is the point of assuming and guessing? I"d rather wait for the people who know the answers.

[Chipaccrual]

We have some established venues, a few old favourites returning and a couple of new ones in the proposed schedule. Something to enthuse everyone I hope

I can"t wait...perhaps I should get a ticker for the countdown..if someone (cough) was to let me know the announcement date!  

Good idea.  If someone tells you, be sure to let Rich and I know aswell.

[Paulie_D]

What is the point of assuming and guessing? I"d rather wait for the people who know the answers.

Was I wrong?

Those were "informed" assumptions and guesses from conversations with the people who do know....but...whatever!

[Gazza]

30 seconds to act with a couple of 1 minute time bank chips would be awesome IMO.

I think we"re slightly just a tad getting away from what"s reasonably practicable given APAT's budget and resources, and that it"s probably not possible to do this live anyway.

Believe they did it for the Aussie Millions High Roller event this year.

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What"s your point? The buy-in is higher, but doesn"t APAT try to replicate good tournaments at an affordable buy-in?

[WarBwastardo]

30 seconds to act with a couple of 1 minute time bank chips would be awesome IMO.

I think we"re slightly just a tad getting away from what"s reasonably practicable given APAT's budget and resources, and that it"s probably not possible to do this live anyway.

Believe they did it for the Aussie Millions High Roller event this year.

Similar to APAT

What"s your point? The buy-in is higher, but doesn"t APAT try to replicate good tournaments at an affordable buy-in?

Just don"t think it"s realistic for APAT to do this format justice given the restraints they have to work under.  Think the timing part of speed poker in an MTT with dealers who are not even necessarily poker dealers would be a lot harder in practice than it might seem in theory.  Aussie Millions have professionals with professional set ups and much much larger budgets.