A Fish and his Chips

[Chipaccrual]

Leigh

In your hand with the KK would it be right to flat call the 480.  If the board pairs on the turn or is a heart then you can get away from it. If it is a blank you can jam because he has enough behind to fold.
I presume you are putting him on a high pocket pair. If the turn card is a black king you are in trouble because you would have to class this as a blank.

That seems very good advice.  You live and learn.  TY.

[noble1]

:: :: v  qc kc

tc jc th

28.54% v 71.46%

using AJDUK"s flop - Tc Th
8h8s - 43.586%
KdQd - 56.414%

How much of a dog can you be allin on the flop whilst being ahead on the flop ?

not much comes to mind leigh as to getting lower than your bottom 2 pair versus a over pair+FD, ul sir....

[noble1]

using your -  ::  tc flop

QcJc - 51.515%
9s2s - 48.485%

[MintTrav]

Are you sure you understand the question?

[PantsMan]

Are you sure you understand the question?

LOL. Was thinking much the same!

[noble1]

Are you sure you understand the question?

How much of a dog can you be allin on the flop whilst being ahead on the flop ?

i hope i"m reading it right trav  how far can u be behind but ahead on flop , i put up as close as 50/50 but just ahead, i dont think AJDUK"s deuce deuce can be beat 28.53 v 71.46 , can u beat it?

i was thinking about leighs J8 versus KK , tried to get closer 50/50 but ahead  sorry i should of explained  

[Swinebag]

dont know about on the flop but there is this classic on the turn

:: on a   :: :: flop and turn v   is winning on the turn but drawing dead to a split pot on the river

[Chipaccrual]

Ahead on the turn, but at best you"ll chop it on the river.  That is sick.

[thinsy147]

 :: v with a flop of  :: :: is: 28.38% v 64.34% (7.27% split)

[AJDUK]

:: v with a flop of  :: :: is: 28.38% v 64.34% (7.27% split)

the split % should be equally divided between the two and so becomes 32.02% v 67.98%

by your method  :: :: v  qc kc on a flop of  tc jc th is 28.08% v 71.01% (0.91% split)

Interestingly John"s matchup of  ah :: v   on a flop of   tc (29.09% v 70.91%) might be the worst you can get that cannot end up in a split?

The answer to all this must be on the net somewhere lol.

[thinsy147]

I"ve had a quiet day at work and have spent a fair while entering info into the "Internet Hand Odds Calculator" and think your probably right!!  

Oh well, at least it helped the afternoon pass  

[MintTrav]

:: v with a flop of  :: :: is: 28.38% v 64.34% (7.27% split)

the split % should be equally divided between the two and so becomes 32.02% v 67.98%

by your method  :: :: v  qc kc on a flop of  tc jc th is 28.08% v 71.01% (0.91% split)

Interestingly John"s matchup of  ah :: v   on a flop of   tc (29.09% v 70.91%) might be the worst you can get that cannot end up in a split?

The answer to all this must be on the net somewhere lol.

What is the prize? I hope it"s an APAT seat.

[noble1]

I"ve had a quiet day at work and have spent a fair while entering info into the "Internet Hand Odds Calculator" and think your probably right!!  

Oh well, at least it helped the afternoon pass  

no you worked it out ok thinsy, the main difference between the two methods is that equity combines the odds of win and tie into a single fractional pot-win number that is easier to work with, but breaking it down to win/tie/loss gives a much better picture of a hand"s true strength.[hard to do in heat of moment ]
when you start getting into range vs range analysis, then because equity normalizes those wins/ties into a single number,it makes the math easier... pokerstove anyhows will break it down for you so that you can see your overall equity as well as your win/loss/tie percentages in the window below...

[SirPercival]

my head hurts

[thinsy147]

Research shows that only 23.36% of poker players use this method when making a decision and 74.23% of players tend to play on instinct alone. Suprisingly, only 32.44% of players take into account what their opponent may have and, even more astonishingly, a mere 12.45% of players will "play the player". To sum up, 1.21% of people reading this will actually believe some of this and 98.74% of people really couldn"t give a.......   %%%%

   

Have I won an APAT seat yet?  

P.S. Why haven"t we got a little smiley icon type thing in the form of the APAT logo?