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« on: February 16, 2011, 11:35:09 AM »
There was some debate aout this last night.

The specifics of the hand in question - raised UTG to £7 and called by UTG+1, UTG+2 re-raises to £27, all fold to original raiser who shoves UTG+1 folds, UTG+2....
How tight would UTG+2 have to think UTG was in order to fold KK here?
Stacks were c£130 for both
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« Reply #1 on: February 16, 2011, 11:40:13 AM »
50p/£1 - KK is way up at the top of their shoving ranges. Easy call. At these stakes, people will make that play and show up with lower pairs, AK and even AQ.
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« Reply #2 on: February 16, 2011, 11:43:54 AM »
Quote from: AMRN on February 16, 2011, 11:40:13 AM

50p/£1 - KK is way up at the top of their shoving ranges. Easy call. At these stakes, people will make that play and show up with lower pairs, AK and even AQ.



Almost exactly what I said - but the argument was that if XXXX shoved here he HAD to have AA - i lol"d
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« Reply #3 on: February 16, 2011, 14:36:12 PM »
Call and ask to run it more than once if up against aces or AK AQ
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« Reply #4 on: February 16, 2011, 14:38:42 PM »
Quote from: LongshanksED on February 16, 2011, 14:36:12 PM

Call and ask to run it more than once if up against aces or AK AQ


Not allowed to do this in most casinos.

Def not folding KK in a 100nl live game.
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« Reply #5 on: February 16, 2011, 15:11:22 PM »
Why you not allowed to run it more than once

Casinos I"ve played in allow it.

Rake is still the same for the house and it"s the players money involved!
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« Reply #6 on: February 16, 2011, 15:13:45 PM »
cant fold...... wont fold...if there thinking off folding they should not be playing cards.....jmo...
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« Reply #7 on: February 16, 2011, 15:18:07 PM »
Quote from: LongshanksED on February 16, 2011, 15:11:22 PM

Why you not allowed to run it more than once

Casinos I"ve played in allow it.

Rake is still the same for the house and it"s the players money involved!


G casinos and dtd both do not allow it.  I had a hand in G Bolton @ APAT Team Champs where it came down to playing a 400x pot with KQ vs 77 aipf and they wouldnt let us do business.  Both just announced last hand and chopped away from table.  
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« Reply #8 on: February 16, 2011, 17:22:58 PM »
2 of the 4 casinos in edinburgh run poker rooms

I"ve played cash in both and ran pots more than once (sometimes 4) in both
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« Reply #9 on: February 16, 2011, 17:25:56 PM »
Quote from: LongshanksED on February 16, 2011, 14:36:12 PM

Call and ask to run it more than once if up against aces or AK AQ


Would you agree to run AA v KK more than once (assuming you hold AA?)

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« Reply #10 on: February 16, 2011, 17:29:43 PM »
Quote from: LongshanksED on February 16, 2011, 17:22:58 PM

2 of the 4 casinos in edinburgh run poker rooms

I"ve played cash in both and ran pots more than once (sometimes 4) in both


In that case, Edinburgh>>>everywhere else. I guess it"s to stop collusion but pretty melty.
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« Reply #11 on: February 16, 2011, 22:16:30 PM »
Quote from: david3103 on February 16, 2011, 17:25:56 PM

Quote from: LongshanksED on February 16, 2011, 14:36:12 PM

Call and ask to run it more than once if up against aces or AK AQ


Would you agree to run AA v KK more than once (assuming you hold AA?)




I"d run it as many times as KK wanted
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« Reply #12 on: February 17, 2011, 09:33:42 AM »
Quote from: Swinebag22 on February 16, 2011, 22:16:30 PM

Quote from: david3103 on February 16, 2011, 17:25:56 PM

Quote from: LongshanksED on February 16, 2011, 14:36:12 PM

Call and ask to run it more than once if up against aces or AK AQ


Would you agree to run AA v KK more than once (assuming you hold AA?)




I"d run it as many times as KK wanted


Especially if they"re the same suits! :)
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« Reply #13 on: February 17, 2011, 18:04:15 PM »
 I would run it 2 or 3 times if had AA vs KK. you are such a big Favourite anyway so it doesnt matter and reduces the variance when he hits a K the first time its ran (happens to us all from time to time) I would also always run over pair vs combo draws everytime, no matter which i held. I think its really bad customer service that DTD dont allow it, They allow straddles and its the players money and rake will be the same anyway.
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« Reply #14 on: May 10, 2011, 17:24:17 PM »
Quote from: david3103 on February 16, 2011, 11:35:09 AM

There was some debate aout this last night.

The specifics of the hand in question - raised UTG to £7 and called by UTG+1, UTG+2 re-raises to £27, all fold to original raiser who shoves UTG+1 folds, UTG+2....
How tight would UTG+2 have to think UTG was in order to fold KK here?
Stacks were c£130 for both


Never folding. I"m happy to call everytime. Just reload if you lose. Beauty of BRM.

As others have said, he could be pushing so many hands - and only one that you go in behind against.
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