S5 APAT English Online Championship 2011

[coprey]

There was at least one abusive player at our table as well. Are there any APAT players actually offended by this? It seems to me that these guys just expose themselves as immature idiots to everyone else at the table. Most of the time its a sure fire way of spotting a complete fish.  

[TheWagoon]

I doubt it matters to many of us if the tournament is an APAT event or a random event as to what we do in this situation. What actually matters is who the other player is.

Hmm, personally that makes all the difference. In a normal online tourney against randoms i"m clicking away and taking every chip i can get as it"s all about the money. In an APAT i wouldn"t want to know i"d won the title through anything other than playing better than them.

This 100%

If I believe the other person would wait if the situation was the other way around (if it was someone from APAT/someone I knew and I think they would do the same) then I"d wait, if it"s a complete random I"d obv just blind them away.

Quite sad to see this happen when both people were APAT members but there you go.

[Paulie_D]

The problem with the solution you suggest is that I can"t be stuffed, especially as it wasn"t aimed at me.

There"s the issue...it don"t mean much if you"re not willing to take action.

I freely admit, I"ve never used the report option (even if I could find it on 888) and probably wouldn"t even if it was aimed at me...I"ve got a thick skin (obviously) but others don"t.

"If you"re not part of the solution...you"re part of the problem"*

* I don"t know who said that but it fits.

[MintTrav]

The problem with the solution you suggest is that I can"t be stuffed, especially as it wasn"t aimed at me.

There"s the issue...it don"t mean much if you"re not willing to take action.

I freely admit, I"ve never used the report option (even if I could find it on 888) and probably wouldn"t even if it was aimed at me...I"ve got a thick skin (obviously) but others don"t.

"If you"re not part of the solution...you"re part of the problem"*

* I don"t know who said that but it fits.

I don"t think that quote fits at all actually. A few players have made APAT aware of it so APAT can "take action" if it deems it appropriate. It"s just an irritant, but the truth is "it don"t mean much", as you say.

[jacklevel06]

There was at least one abusive player at our table as well. Are there any APAT players actually offended by this? It seems to me that these guys just expose themselves as immature idiots to everyone else at the table. Most of the time its a sure fire way of spotting a complete fish.  

Totally agree Col,dos"nt bother me at all, but to any new members it might put them off apat events.

[mfcrocker]

For me...!!!

If I get to heads up and my oppo loses connection, if I know who it is, Like Scouse for instance, and like a lot of APAT players, I am gonna give a chance to get back etc...

But...

If it is a random 888 player who I have no idea who it is, and more especially, if the oppo is a gobby plick, I click as fast as I can and steal as many chips as I can before he comes back..

I think this is actually what most people would do.

If I am playing heads up against somebody who I know, then I would give them time to reconnect and ring them if I have that option to find out what is going on. After I think I have given them enough time I am going to raise and take (maybe I give them a percentage of the extra $600 when I see them next - but certainly not half of it).

However if I am playing against a random, I am just going to take their blinds, does this taint the title and the gold medal meaning they are worth less? Yes very much so, does it change the money and the added value (seat)? No, I will still play the UKIPT and I will still bank the extra $600. If it is an APAT reg and I don"t recognise the name or just don"t them then I do the same.

This is not exclusive to an APAT if I am playing a tournament on Sky for example and I end up heads up with somebody I know then I act the same way and give them a chance to reconnect. APAT Ethos does not come into this decision, I disagree with people saying "this is not very APAT", it"s poker, and I doubt it matters to many of us if the tournament is an APAT event or a random event as to what we do in this situation. What actually matters is who the other player is.

I would not have any problem with anybody clicking the raise button as fast as they could if I was disconnected no matter if I know them or not or who they are.

Biggest +1 in history. It seems like a no-brainer to me - if it"s a friend I"ll either give them the time they reckon they"ll need to r/c or chuck them a %age of myself in the UKIPT event or something. Anyone else can go hang.

As many people have mentioned the nature of online poker leads to this inherent risk. It"s the ONLINE championship, warts and all. An APAT event may have a strong community ethos but at the end of the day it"s still a poker tournament, and I still want to win it.

Some people in this thread are being a bit holier-than-thou for my liking.