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Chipaccrual

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Flat Season 2011 - Discussion
« on: March 19, 2011, 14:16:57 PM »
From 2nd April 2011 until 5th November 2011, we"re officially in Flat Racing Season.

Loads to look forward to, including

May
30th Apr-3st Newmarket- Stan James Guineas Festival
14th Newbury- Juddmonte Lockinge Stakes

June
3rd-4th Epsom- Derby Festival
14th-18th Ascot- Royal Ascot

July
2nd Sandown- Coral Eclipse Stakes
7th-9th Newmarket- July Festival
23rd Ascot- King George Day
26th-30th Goodwood- Glorious Goodwood

August
17-20 York- Ebor Festival

September
3rd Haydock- Betfred Sprint Cup
8th-10th Doncaster- St. Leger Festival
22nd-24th Newmarket- Cambridgeshire Meeting

October
7th-8th Newmarket- Champions Meeting
22nd Doncaster- Racing Post Trophy Meeting
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Re: Flat Season 2011 - Discussion
« Reply #1 on: March 19, 2011, 14:22:26 PM »
The Classics

2,000 Guineas Stakes
1m - 3yo Colts and Fillies
Newmarket - 30th April

1,000 Guineas Stakes
1m - 3yo Fillies
Newmarket - 1st May

The Oaks
1m4f - 3yo Fillies
Epsom - 3rd July 2011

The Derby
1m4f - 3yo Colts and Fillies
Epsom - 4th July 2011

The St Leger
1m6f - 3yo Colts and Fillies
Doncaster - 10th September
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Re: Flat Season 2011 - Discussion
« Reply #2 on: March 19, 2011, 14:30:01 PM »
i"ll post when i get time, in the meantime you know i"ll mention Frankel  :)
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Re: Flat Season 2011 - Discussion
« Reply #3 on: March 19, 2011, 14:36:26 PM »
Yes, Frankel may get mentioned here a few times.

I"ve got a few antepost picks for the first four classics.  I won"t post up reasons at the moment.  These were selected over the new year, haven"t had much chance to look back and re-evaluate yet.

2000 Guineas - Dream Ahead
1000 Guineas - Hooray
The Oaks - Havant
The Derby - Frankel

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Re: Flat Season 2011 - Discussion
« Reply #4 on: March 19, 2011, 14:55:18 PM »
Quote from: Chipaccrual on March 19, 2011, 14:36:26 PM

Yes, Frankel may get mentioned here a few times.

I"ve got a few antepost picks for the first four classics.  I won"t post up reasons at the moment.  These were selected over the new year, haven"t had much chance to look back and re-evaluate yet.

2000 Guineas - Dream Ahead
1000 Guineas - Hooray
The Oaks - Havant
The Derby - Frankel




i"m getting distracted here lol :) and mis-clicked in pokers, luckily i hit a 1outer :)  
i"m chillin tomorrow so i"ll have some time to give some input... i hope you got a good price on dream ahead :)
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Re: Flat Season 2011 - Discussion
« Reply #5 on: March 19, 2011, 15:19:08 PM »
Problem number one this year.

Glorious Goodwood clashes with APAT Scotland (Who the hell organised that schedule ?)

It"s only the last day (Saturday), but I haven"t missed a Glorious Goodwood Saturday for nearly 10 years.  Started going into the public enclosure with friends and now I am a member there.

I love the Nassau Stakes and Stewards Cup. FML, FML, FML, FML.
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Re: Flat Season 2011 - Discussion
« Reply #6 on: March 19, 2011, 15:25:52 PM »
I have to say Goodwood is without question the best view in racing and only 2nd to the view at royal ascot on a thursday. ;)
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Re: Flat Season 2011 - Discussion
« Reply #7 on: March 20, 2011, 13:16:42 PM »
Quote from: Chipaccrual on March 19, 2011, 14:36:26 PM

Yes, Frankel may get mentioned here a few times.

I"ve got a few antepost picks for the first four classics.  I won"t post up reasons at the moment.  These were selected over the new year, haven"t had much chance to look back and re-evaluate yet.

2000 Guineas - Dream Ahead
1000 Guineas - Hooray
The Oaks - Havant
The Derby - Frankel



My thoughts on the 2000 Guineas are that potentially this could be a cracker this year :) Frankel beat Dream Ahead by 7 lengths in the Dewhurst and Dream Ahead beat Strong Suit by 9 lengths in the Middle Park [over 6f] so it will be hard to fancy those 2 to reverse form imho.
In the Dewhurst Frankel also had the Champagne Stakes winner Saamidd and 3rd placed Waiter"s Dream well stuffed, plus lets face it Godolphin"s record in the 2000 guineas is bloody awful.. Mr Tester the BHA"s two-year-old specialist had Frankel and Dream Ahead joint rated at the end of the season, WTF comes to mind :o... Mr Tester in his wisdom said because Frankel only beat maiden winners [Roderic O"Connor and Glor Na Mara] that it took the gloss off his Dewhurst win? Well he must of missed Roderic O"Connor winning the Criterium International Group 1 over a mile at Saint-cloud in a very good time on heavy ground [french heavy]..  Rajsaman later on in the Prix Perth ran only 0.30 secs quicker [and he was a 3 year old]... He is rated 115 over a mile so imho after going through the races this only enhances what Frankel did...
The potential fly in the ointment could be Patchfork [especially if you take into account his win over Glor Na Mara in the Vincent O"Brien National].. Wootton Bassett"s win over Tin Horse at Longchamp puts him ahead of Dream Ahead imo, he has won on good to firm, good and very soft ground in good company, that points to a touch of class...
Pathfork is unbeaten after 3 races, his win over Casamento at the Curragh got boosted when Casamento went onto win the Racing Post Trophy... So for me Frankel is the likely winner but Patchfork and Wootton Bassett represent value at double figure odds, so i have had some each way savers on those two :)

just to add -
Casamento maybe of interest for the Derby, but i want to see him run again before i make my mind up :)
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Re: Flat Season 2011 - Discussion
« Reply #8 on: March 20, 2011, 13:29:04 PM »
Quote from: Chipaccrual on March 19, 2011, 15:19:08 PM

Problem number one this year.

Glorious Goodwood clashes with APAT Scotland (Who the hell organised that schedule ?)

It"s only the last day (Saturday), but I haven"t missed a Glorious Goodwood Saturday for nearly 10 years.  Started going into the public enclosure with friends and now I am a member there.

I love the Nassau Stakes and Stewards Cup. FML, FML, FML, FML.


Put a sicky in, no one will notice  ::)
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Re: Flat Season 2011 - Discussion
« Reply #9 on: March 20, 2011, 14:27:44 PM »
Quote from: Chipaccrual on March 19, 2011, 15:19:08 PM

Problem number one this year.

Glorious Goodwood clashes with APAT Scotland (Who the hell organised that schedule ?)

It"s only the last day (Saturday), but I haven"t missed a Glorious Goodwood Saturday for nearly 10 years.  Started going into the public enclosure with friends and now I am a member there.

I love the Nassau Stakes and Stewards Cup. FML, FML, FML, FML.


You can just send a talented assistant instead, like Estonia last year :0)
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Re: Flat Season 2011 - Discussion
« Reply #10 on: March 20, 2011, 22:44:58 PM »
Keep it to yourselves but I"ve been told to back.....

Charlton house for the Derby.

Fill your boots !!
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Re: Flat Season 2011 - Discussion
« Reply #11 on: March 21, 2011, 02:35:02 AM »
Quote from: mousebob on March 20, 2011, 22:44:58 PM

Keep it to yourselves but I"ve been told to back.....

Charlton house for the Derby.

Fill your boots !!


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/racing/article-1346256/Queens-horse-Carlton-House-attracts-support-BHA-handicapper-Matthew-Tester.html
http://www.sportinglife.com/racing/news/story_get.cgi?STORY_NAME=racing/10/10/24/RACING_House.html

i would want to him run yet against some decent company, Mr Stoute will run him in one of the derby trials... till then imo just another media hype talk horse...
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Re: Flat Season 2011 - Discussion
« Reply #12 on: March 21, 2011, 16:45:46 PM »
Just thought I"d pass on a little "inside info".
I don"t do "media hype".
14/1 seems a fair price & worth an investment.
Will hedge later at 2/1. ;D

Don"t have time/inclination to study form any more (brain dead).
Just bet on paddock inspection. This seems to give me an edge.
Emmaslegend at Wincanton (backed at 30).
Voramar Two at Newton laid for place (he just didn"t want to be there)!!
Plenty more like that.
Best price winner so far 210. Probably won"t ever be able to top that.
I just never have enough on!!
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Re: Flat Season 2011 - Discussion
« Reply #13 on: March 21, 2011, 16:48:15 PM »
inside info lol. Someone always knows something  ;D
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