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New structure thoughts
« on: March 28, 2011, 21:51:50 PM »
What has been the overall impression of the new structure?  It seemed like final table has fairly deep stacks in relation to the blinds but quite a late finish for a 150 runner tourny..11:30ish?  Any maths boffins want to take a stab at estimating how late a 200 runner event would finish?

I"m going out to buy some noodles, I want this discussed in depth before I return.  Say fifteen minutes.  Maybe 20 as I don"t know where my shoes are.

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Re: New structure thoughts
« Reply #1 on: March 28, 2011, 21:59:36 PM »


where x = number of hours -  should finish about 3pm day 2  8)

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Re: New structure thoughts
« Reply #2 on: March 28, 2011, 22:02:52 PM »
i liked it.

but then i wasnt playing :)
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Re: New structure thoughts
« Reply #3 on: March 28, 2011, 22:03:54 PM »
to be fair this equation doesn"t make sense to me  ???  ;D
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Re: New structure thoughts
« Reply #4 on: March 28, 2011, 22:07:54 PM »
It worked v well. 2 early additional levels popular. We hit a final a while earlier than normal then had loads of play with the money at stake. No matter the bigger the antes the play tightened a lot end of day 1 but strategies definitely had to change at other points. We"ve never had an apat final under any structure go beyond 20-40k blinds. A 200 runner event wouldn"t end much later

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Re: New structure thoughts
« Reply #5 on: March 28, 2011, 22:15:29 PM »
I can"t comment on how late a 200 runner would finish but I"m willing to believe Tighty.

For me, it pushed me to play a more aggressive game than I would normally, definitely outside of my normal comfort zone. I"m not criticising it...it opened my eyes to a different style and had me thinking a lot more.

Frankly, having to think more about opening my range and seeing if others were doing the same (lots weren"t) drained me both mentally and physically....I was wrung out good and proper at the end of Day 1.

Overall, I like it.
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Re: New structure thoughts
« Reply #6 on: March 28, 2011, 22:22:09 PM »
probably the most absorbing final table I can remember.

Structure was a surefire winner. I would normally worry about too late a finish, but the bigger antes would help hurry things along a bit.

What are the plans for DTD and the bigger stacks? Is it 2 day 1s or a proper 3 dayer??
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Re: New structure thoughts
« Reply #7 on: March 28, 2011, 22:24:05 PM »

Is it 2 day 1s or a proper 3 dayer??


Two "Day 1"s and a Day 2
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Re: New structure thoughts
« Reply #8 on: March 28, 2011, 22:27:24 PM »


Is it 2 day 1s or a proper 3 dayer??


Two "Day 1"s and a Day 2


In that case, will be interesting to see what time this one finishes with 400 runners and 15K stacks. Count me in!!
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Re: New structure thoughts
« Reply #9 on: March 28, 2011, 22:29:53 PM »
Structure was excellent.   Gave loads more room for a play.   Long may it last
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Re: New structure thoughts
« Reply #10 on: March 28, 2011, 22:32:12 PM »
At dtd we will be playing later on the first days. This weekends dtd deepstack is 15000 for the first time, c300 runners and two days. I am updating it and looking for timing clues!

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Re: New structure thoughts
« Reply #11 on: March 28, 2011, 22:46:03 PM »

What has been the overall impression of the new structure?  It seemed like final table has fairly deep stacks in relation to the blinds but quite a late finish for a 150 runner tourny..11:30ish?  Any maths boffins want to take a stab at estimating how late a 200 runner event would finish?

I"m going out to buy some noodles, I want this discussed in depth before I return.  Say fifteen minutes.  Maybe 20 as I don"t know where my shoes are.


23 20000 / 40000 4000
24 25000 / 50000 4000
25 30000 / 60000 5000

Depending on the level where the finish occurred there was somewhere between 25 and 39 BBs in play. An additional 60 runners (allowing for more alternates) would add 10-15 BBs to the total. Would say this is equivalent to 1-2 levels of play before bringing the total BBs in play to the same kind of figure.

Just because I"m bored - if we assume that we double the number of runners (or starting stacks FWIW, and then assume the BB would be double also when the final hand is dealt) then this would only add 3 levels before the tournament reaches the same depth level.

So number of players or total chips in play actually has little effect on finish time.

I liked the structure and didn"t feel there were as many choke points as before - generally felt looser. I think Tighty stole it from me though after a post I made on the S5 discussion - can I claim commission? ;)
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Re: New structure thoughts
« Reply #12 on: March 28, 2011, 22:46:59 PM »
 New ante structure was perfect. I had been banging on about our antes for around 1 year now, always knew it would work.

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Re: New structure thoughts
« Reply #13 on: March 28, 2011, 22:54:38 PM »
I thought the new structure was perfect  :D

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Re: New structure thoughts
« Reply #14 on: March 28, 2011, 22:57:12 PM »
What antes?
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