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Re: New structure thoughts
« Reply #15 on: March 28, 2011, 22:57:23 PM »
I thought the structure was fine with loads of opportunity to play poker (see some flops) in the early levels.

I tweeted this after losing a flip and doubling a short stack @ 12.27 am

Down to 15k, av is 40k blinds will be 600/1200 v soon.

We started at 2.30pm so I have to say I feel I had a decent bang for my buck if it was 10 hours later (ignoring breaks) before I"m in shove/fold mode.

I also thought that the final table started and ended at a sociable hour.


ps. Update thread is locked so;

Wanted to thank all concerned for organising the event and a great job with the updating/commentating I appreciate how tough that is.

Also congratulations to those who made the final table well done all.
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Re: New structure thoughts
« Reply #16 on: March 29, 2011, 08:13:46 AM »
I had already commented on this on the update thread...

"Ref. the new structure.

Don"t know what everyone else thought, but for me (and I think I speak for Paul McGuinness) I thought it was way too fast."
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Re: New structure thoughts
« Reply #17 on: March 29, 2011, 09:21:55 AM »
Thought the new structure was ok, as said you had to change the way you play a bit
apat wanted to get down to the money on the 1st day but I don"t see how this is gonna happen as with a late finish there were still 20 left

Only gripe is that coming back for day 2 and all the cost that may entail and not cash is a bit much
As said at the time any alternates payments would have been a bonus for the 5 who were unlucky to go out before the money, I know its not much but if you have to get a hotel etc it helps a bit !!

Other than that little gripe , coventry was a good weekend

well done again to all at apat and the casino/888 etc

on to the next one   ;) ;) ;)

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Re: New structure thoughts
« Reply #18 on: March 29, 2011, 14:03:52 PM »

Thought the new structure was ok, as said you had to change the way you play a bit
apat wanted to get down to the money on the 1st day but I don"t see how this is gonna happen as with a late finish there were still 20 left

Only gripe is that coming back for day 2 and all the cost that may entail and not cash is a bit much
As said at the time any alternates payments would have been a bonus for the 5 who were unlucky to go out before the money, I know its not much but if you have to get a hotel etc it helps a bit !!

Other than that little gripe , coventry was a good weekend

well done again to all at apat and the casino/888 etc

on to the next one   ;) ;) ;)


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Re: New structure thoughts
« Reply #19 on: March 29, 2011, 14:25:02 PM »


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As said at the time any alternates payments would have been a bonus for the 5 who were unlucky to go out before the money, I know its not much but if you have to get a hotel etc it helps a bit !!



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Re: New structure thoughts
« Reply #20 on: March 29, 2011, 14:32:08 PM »
Its very hard to get a great structure and get everyone on day2 paid.  From the sounds of things, this season is close to pefect.  Theres always going to be disagreements about certain aspects, but good job APAT for bringing the structure and payouts to a very high level.
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Re: New structure thoughts
« Reply #21 on: March 29, 2011, 15:00:37 PM »
... you would have got there with 40 min levels ...

I await being shoed to death for making such a comment ...

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Re: New structure thoughts
« Reply #22 on: March 29, 2011, 15:09:59 PM »

... you would have got there with 40 min levels ...

I await being shoed to death for making such a comment ...

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This would create the time to play an extra level, and we would get to each level a little bit earlier, but we wouldn"t get anymore hands played in the time.

Is this statement correct ?   I think it is, so how much difference would it make to getting to the money ?

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Re: New structure thoughts
« Reply #23 on: March 29, 2011, 15:13:16 PM »
Structure was absolutely fine though the card-dead runs can be a little painful. That"s live poker though!

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Re: New structure thoughts
« Reply #24 on: March 29, 2011, 15:18:44 PM »


... you would have got there with 40 min levels ...

I await being shoed to death for making such a comment ...

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This would create the time to play an extra level, and we would get to each level a little bit earlier, but we wouldn"t get anymore hands played in the time.

Is this statement correct ?   I think it is, so how much difference would it make to getting to the money ?


Perhaps with the blinds going up that one level extra on day 1 you"d have lost a lot of shorties on Saturday night instead of beginning of Sunday?  Not sure if that"s correct either.

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Re: New structure thoughts
« Reply #25 on: March 29, 2011, 15:45:47 PM »


... you would have got there with 40 min levels ...

I await being shoed to death for making such a comment ...

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This would create the time to play an extra level, and we would get to each level a little bit earlier, but we wouldn"t get anymore hands played in the time.

Is this statement correct ?   I think it is, so how much difference would it make to getting to the money ?


I think you need to have the scope to play until the money is reached ... if that is not possible then there will always be people staying alive for day 2 to shove J9s into KK etc ...

It"s the blinds relative to chips that matters not the number of hands played in a day ... (but speedier play would be good too).

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Re: New structure thoughts
« Reply #26 on: March 29, 2011, 16:15:15 PM »
I felt comfortable that IF we could have played another level (and that"s a big if) then we would have reached the money BUT there were a number of additional reasons why we couldn"t play to the money at Coventry including dealer rostering and availability PLUS the clocks going forward.

However, and I realise that I may be in the minority, but I enter knowing that playing to the money is an AIM, not a target and plan my time and hotels accordingly.

Yes, it"s a pain to make Day 2 and not cash...I did (and didn"t if you see what I mean). No hard feelings on my part.

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Re: New structure thoughts
« Reply #27 on: March 29, 2011, 16:29:17 PM »
Has there ever been a time when making day 2 meant you had cashed?  I don"t get the argument about stumping up for hotels.  You make those decisions weeks in advance of the event no?  

Who cares about the money anyway, it"s the social side of things that matters so the more people still around for day 2 the better surely.  ;)

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Re: New structure thoughts
« Reply #28 on: March 29, 2011, 16:54:48 PM »

Has there ever been a time when making day 2 meant you had cashed?  I don"t get the argument about stumping up for hotels.  You make those decisions weeks in advance of the event no?  

Who cares about the money anyway, it"s the social side of things that matters so the more people still around for day 2 the better surely.  ;)


Regarding the first part I get what you mean but I don"t agree If I didn"t make day 2 in Coventry I was not going to stay in a hotel.

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Re: New structure thoughts
« Reply #29 on: March 29, 2011, 17:05:03 PM »

Structure was absolutely fine though the card-dead runs can be a little painful. That"s live poker though!

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