So u don"t regard folding aces to an open shove as collusion?
collusion [k??lu???n]
n
1. secret agreement for a fraudulent purpose; connivance; conspiracy
2. (Law) a secret agreement between opponents at law in order to obtain a judicial decision for some wrongful or improper purpose
No - I don"t think folding AA there is collusion.... Tony and I had made no prior secret agreement, and there was no conspiracy of connivance.
I do however think it was soft play. The fact is though, I looked at my cards as an irrelevant act - I was clearly folding whatever they were and could have folded blind. Also, if I hadn"t said anything after the event, who would have known? If I had just folded blind, nobody would have said a word. Same goes for the online events - who knows what others are folding? If we break 888"s rules around soft play, the software filters will catch us out.
Btw, when I folded AA, Tony and I were at a 7 handed table, 4 of which were from one team, and they were taking it in turns to raise and 3-bet each other, meaning the rest of us were effectively squeezed out of every hand. This is good team play - is it therefore also cheating? (clearly they had agreed their plan in advance, so is actually collusion).
Fact is, if we want to stop all the debate about collusion and soft play, we would have to abandon the team event.
collusion is something else altogether.
