Anyone else make this call ! couldnt believe it when he turned over?

[scouse3465]

PokerStars Game #63548544368: Tournament #425020016, $200+$15 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XIV (600/1200) - 2011/06/19 19:43:10 WET [2011/06/19 14:43:10 ET]
Table "425020016 199" 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: mkr2804 (18750 in chips)
Seat 2: BigDennys (18775 in chips)
Seat 3: scouse3465 (14214 in chips)
Seat 4: richi2207 (27854 in chips)
Seat 5: Hobbes200 (51678 in chips)
Seat 6: Doommy (52930 in chips)
Seat 7: flashdisastr (74388 in chips)
Seat 8: spliffudo (45255 in chips)
Seat 9: aylinka18 (54753 in chips) ** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to scouse3465 [ ]
Doommy: folds
flashdisastr: folds
spliffudo: folds
aylinka18: raises 2400 to 3600
mkr2804: folds
BigDennys: folds
scouse3465: raises 10494 to 14094 and is all-in
richi2207: folds
Hobbes200: folds
aylinka18: calls 10494
*** FLOP *** [ ]
*** TURN *** [ ] []
*** RIVER *** [ ] []
*** SHOW DOWN ***
aylinka18: shows [ ] (high card King)
scouse3465: shows [ ] (a pair of Jacks)

[scouse3465]

thought i think it was awful call by villan , happy with it but struggling to see how he makes call , surely not enough odds ! Any other reasons , and i been  and i been playing like a nit too

[scouse3465]

really would like to see if there any legitiment reason for call cos i cant see one

[SirPercival]

misclick?

[scouse3465]

misclick?

did cross my mind but raised pre too lol
maybe just lucky hand or something. or xmas pressie early lol

[Swinebag]

Its nearly 2 to 1 and its scouse.........I call!!

[Swinebag]

just stoved it and against a shipping range of any pair, A8s+, any suited broadway, unsuited A9+, KT+ and QJ, the might 74 soooooooted has just about enough equity to make the call. Given that it is 20% of his stack, it is worth a punt.

If your shipping range is tighter there steve, then

1. I eat my hat

2. I still call anyway

[samuel_9]

have to agree with rob on this one

[TheSnapper]

aylinka18 has some good results.

$450,659 in Prizes

$9,932 Profit   

2% ROI   

$116    ABI

Would suggest he was aware he got himself priced in to call.

[dwh103]

I suppose in addition to the odds it"s really good for his image, I.e. Making the thought of a light shove vs him less appealing. On some tables the gain in the future may outweight the immediate -EV

[AMRN]

I suppose in addition to the odds it"s really good for his image, I.e. Making the thought of a light shove vs him less appealing. On some tables the gain in the future may outweight the immediate -EV

Thing is, against a reasonable shoving range (22+,A8s+,KJs+,A9o+,KQo), he has 34% equity. The pot is paying him 2:1 for his call - almost exactly the right pot odds...... so his call is not really all that -EV, it"s borderline break even.

As Dave says, great for the image to the rest of the table - going to make it much harder for people to play back at him.... and he can afford to buy this image without excessively damaging his stack - he still has 33xBB behind if he loses.

(Not sure who no ante"s in play in a Pokerstars $215 tourney in level 14)

[deanp27]

He probably feels he won"t be raise/folding to c10-12 bb stack, so may have planned to call you off before he even opened

[Marty719]

He probably feels he won"t be raise/folding to c10-12 bb stack, so may have planned to call you off before he even opened

this......especially when he 3x"s.

[PantsMan]

It"s on Pokerstars so no real surprise.

Just don"t understand how the Jacks held up. Surely the board came out J - 3 - 9, turn 5, river 6? Have you contacted technical support to let them know their software glitched?

As for the call, personally i think it"s dreadful. Don"t mind the pre-flop raise but not calling the shove. Much better spots  imo. As for his image, does it more harm than good for me.

[AMRN]

As for the call, personally i think it"s dreadful. Don"t mind the pre-flop raise but not calling the shove. Much better spots  imo. As for his image, does it more harm than good for me.

Andy - you don"t mind a preflop raise to 3x, but you would then fold to a 10x shove? Shouldn"t be opening 3x if you gonna fold to a shortstack shove.