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Angle Shooting at the EPT Grand Final
« on: July 21, 2011, 16:12:51 PM »
Anyone else catch Ivan Freitez angle-shooting in the EPT Grand Final the other day on TV?

Basically, he hit a full house on the river and when the other guy bet out he stated Raise, then quickly said "Erm, no i mean call", then claimed his English was bad saying "No English". The floor manager was called over and he stated to the other guy involved that he had done the same thing at least 3 other times in the tournament and that he should know this but as he had stated raise he had to make the min raise. The guy eventually called (lord knows why given the information he had!) and lost the hand.

Everyone at the table looked disgusted and even the Thomas Kremser the floor manager looked like he wanted to slap the guy.

Good of the floor manager to give the guy having to make the call the information. Just a pity he couldn"t do more to stop it, especially as he knew exactly what he was doing.

Bad enough to see this kind of thing down your local casino but in the EPT Grand Final i"d have expected better.

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Re: Angle Shooting at the EPT Grand Final
« Reply #1 on: July 21, 2011, 16:44:01 PM »
I watched this.

Credit to the tournament management for stating that he"d tried this a number of times, but I don"t understand why there was no further action taken.


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Re: Angle Shooting at the EPT Grand Final
« Reply #2 on: July 21, 2011, 17:29:12 PM »
I watched this and couldn"t believe he got away unpunished.
As the TD knew he had done this at least 3 times already in the tourney, he should have gave the initial bettor the choice of letting the raise stand or indeed letting his opponent just flat call.
TD"s have the authority to ignore/bend rules for the pupose of fair play.
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Re: Angle Shooting at the EPT Grand Final
« Reply #3 on: July 21, 2011, 17:48:33 PM »
Thought exactly the same when watching it, dirty dirty dirty.

His celebrations prior to this were OTT too
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Re: Angle Shooting at the EPT Grand Final
« Reply #4 on: July 21, 2011, 17:50:06 PM »

I watched this and couldn"t believe he got away unpunished.
As the TD knew he had done this at least 3 times already in the tourney, he should have gave the initial bettor the choice of letting the raise stand or indeed letting his opponent just flat call.
TD"s have the authority to ignore/bend rules for the pupose of fair play.


I like the idea of giving the guy he"s doing it to the information that he"s done it before and then having the option of it just being a flat call. That way they all get to see what he"s up to but he doesn"t get paid off. Either that or he gets the option of giving him a good kicking if he turns over the nuts.  :)

I did like the commentators remarks about back in the old days doing what he did would have resulted in him getting shot! Harsh but fair i reckon.

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Re: Angle Shooting at the EPT Grand Final
« Reply #5 on: July 21, 2011, 18:07:05 PM »
when Yanayt made the call he new all about Ivan Freitez move and new he had done it 3 times with the nuts in san remo and also once b4 in the grand final so he must have thought he was double bluffing using the move again with a missed flush draw 2 make the call or he just wanted to make him look a c**t

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Re: Angle Shooting at the EPT Grand Final
« Reply #6 on: July 22, 2011, 10:15:40 AM »
Terrible angle by Freitez and terrible call by the American
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Re: Angle Shooting at the EPT Grand Final
« Reply #7 on: July 22, 2011, 10:48:59 AM »

Terrible angle by Freitez and terrible call by the American


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I know they are playing for big money, but this guy has to play these guys week in week out. Is the loss of respect really worth it?
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Re: Angle Shooting at the EPT Grand Final
« Reply #8 on: July 22, 2011, 11:36:37 AM »
Is there a PokerTube link for this?

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Re: Angle Shooting at the EPT Grand Final
« Reply #9 on: July 22, 2011, 11:39:30 AM »

Is there a PokerTube link for this?



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Re: Angle Shooting at the EPT Grand Final
« Reply #10 on: July 22, 2011, 12:17:11 PM »
Absolutely unbelievable ... amusing in that he would have got paid anyway ... perhaps a bigger bet too.

Great TD

Annoying that he won it!

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Re: Angle Shooting at the EPT Grand Final
« Reply #11 on: July 22, 2011, 12:29:58 PM »
he got away with it lightly should have been made sit out for 20-30 min
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Re: Angle Shooting at the EPT Grand Final
« Reply #12 on: July 22, 2011, 12:40:24 PM »

Annoying that he won it!


Sigh, spoiler alert!

Interesting one for the TD, is it right that he gave information about him doing this before? Also is he breaking any rules here apart from terrible etiquette? So dirty, I would have gone beserk, perhaps he feels that the abuse he is likely to get when caught is worth the money...

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Re: Angle Shooting at the EPT Grand Final
« Reply #13 on: July 22, 2011, 17:32:29 PM »
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Re: Angle Shooting at the EPT Grand Final
« Reply #14 on: July 22, 2011, 18:15:15 PM »


Annoying that he won it!


Sigh, spoiler alert!

Interesting one for the TD, is it right that he gave information about him doing this before? Also is he breaking any rules here apart from terrible etiquette? So dirty, I would have gone beserk, perhaps he feels that the abuse he is likely to get when caught is worth the money...


It finished on May 12th ... kinda old news that he won it ... right?