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Re: Season 6 Discussion
« Reply #195 on: October 16, 2011, 18:54:34 PM »


Plenty of discussion, plenty of ideas to chew over

When will the new seasons schedule be published please?


Earlier than the equivalent time last year!

Discussions in progress now, so on course for that


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Re: Season 6 Discussion
« Reply #196 on: October 16, 2011, 19:48:18 PM »
The National Online Championships - do they all have to be on one day?  Could there not be some on Saturdays and some on Sundays if they are the two days that the members prefer?  What about Friday nights?  Most perople have a late night on Friday anyway...........  
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Re: Season 6 Discussion
« Reply #197 on: October 16, 2011, 20:17:37 PM »
I would stick with Sundays, and have the Nationals on a Sunday with no league game. Saturdays are for having a (away from poker) life!

I"m near the top of the rankings at the moment (blatant brag!), and can"t play any of the final live events, so I really ought to play the final two online events. But I might still miss them if some wedding or something comes up. That wouldn"t happen if they were on a Sunday. Sundays are for doing nothing (except maybe some poker or, in my sad case, marking).

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Re: Season 6 Discussion
« Reply #198 on: October 16, 2011, 20:50:11 PM »
OK I will put my tuppence in here.

Live Events

The Nationals are fine as they are. The £75 buyin works and should not change. £100 for the worlds is also fine, as is £50 for the side events. I would like to see the following National events:-

Worlds (at DTD)
Wales (Asper"s in Swansea)
Scotland (has to be there, although I may not go)
Dublin
London
2 other UK events not too bothered where.
One overseas event (Tallin?)

For live team events we just need the Forum Championship and the Team event at DTD.

Not too bothered about side events as I usually don"t play them.

Online Events

Friday would be best for me, I don"t usually do much on Friday but tend to like to do stuff on Saturdays. Buyin"s are fine. Like the PLO events as side events too.

League

Some teams are too small, lets have one division with less teams. Prizes are too big imo just give some seats to apat live event"s. Should not be things like UKIPT seats and medals for an online league.
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Re: Season 6 Discussion
« Reply #199 on: October 16, 2011, 22:06:00 PM »

Sundays are for doing nothing (except maybe some poker or, in my sad case, marking smiting).


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Re: Season 6 Discussion
« Reply #200 on: October 23, 2011, 10:10:02 AM »

I wouldn"t be able to play Sundays......... Monday morning start is way too early for a late Sunday night ;)


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Re: Season 6 Discussion
« Reply #201 on: October 23, 2011, 15:51:11 PM »
Just my thoughts for Season 6.

First of all i"d like to thank all of the APAT team for yet another years stirling work. I cant imagine how much work must go into organising this. Well done all. Leigh will be sorely missed.

There was no prize for winning the rankings for this season, so there is no incentive for players to travel to distant venues to play.
Online and Live events should be separate for rankings, as there is a significant edge to the online players (eg not having to travel).

The online league still needs tweaking. Just 1 division would be good, but there must be some way to balance numbers, as 2 or 3 teams are fielding 30+ players, and giving the other teams (who just cannot get the numbers), no chance, and therefore less incentive to play.

Overseas events: Why do we have to go to "new frontiers" and get new APAT players?? What is the purpose of this? I"m sure that everyone to went to Barcelona in January would want to go back there. Prague in January? No thanks.

I understand that Season 5 could never live up to the package that Betfair gave to Season 4, but this year has just not felt right.
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Re: Season 6 Discussion
« Reply #202 on: October 23, 2011, 16:25:38 PM »

Just my thoughts for Season 6.

First of all i"d like to thank all of the APAT team for yet another years stirling work. I cant imagine how much work must go into organising this. Well done all. Leigh will be sorely missed.

There was no prize for winning the rankings for this season, so there is no incentive for players to travel to distant venues to play.
Online and Live events should be separate for rankings, as there is a significant edge to the online players (eg not having to travel).

The online league still needs tweaking. Just 1 division would be good, but there must be some way to balance numbers, as 2 or 3 teams are fielding 30+ players, and giving the other teams (who just cannot get the numbers), no chance, and therefore less incentive to play.

Overseas events: Why do we have to go to "new frontiers" and get new APAT players?? What is the purpose of this? I"m sure that everyone to went to Barcelona in January would want to go back there. Prague in January? No thanks.

I understand that Season 5 could never live up to the package that Betfair gave to Season 4, but this year has just not felt right.


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Re: Season 6 Discussion
« Reply #203 on: October 25, 2011, 16:49:59 PM »
Where to start ey!
First and foremost, a huge thankyou to APAT for providing another top value poker tour where the prizes for the amateur players are very rewarding: tweaked prize structure = spot on. added seats = opportunity to play in potentially unaffordable events and gain experience in bigger events. medals = for me personally, hugely satisfying to look back on and remind urself of the win.
all these things within the tour make APAT what it is IMO. then throw in the camaraderie at national event weekends and it truly is an unique poker event that you just do not see elsewhere.
Now here comes the big question for APAT - what is the actual aim as a company/organisation?

If its motivation is to grow and make a run at becoming a global brand, then branching out of the UK is essential. the events I"ve been to "abroad" have been a blast and getting away for a weekend anywhere for nothing but poker is essentially my idea of a "holiday". However, for me personally, travelling across Europe to play poker jus isnt really on my agenda due to costs, although i would love to do it. 
The point im trying to make is that i don"t see the abroad events as a poker wkend, but a holiday wiv an APAT tournament thrown in. Thats essentially wot the "Vegas APAT" is and truth be told, always was. Its not an APAT event in Vegas, its a week in Vegas for those who can afford it wiv the bonus of a APAT poker tournament whilst you"re there.
Reading through this thread it would appear that the majority are against continuing having multiple (if any) events abroad and as a community of players then APAT need to seriously consider this to provide a tour that has attracted many players and to keep it that way.
The problem comes if APAT, and those at the top of its tree, want to make the brand bigger. I believe this will move it away from the current ethos of APAT by locating some of the events abroad and risk losing hardcore members from down the years. but if this is APATs desire and quite frankly wiv its progression since Ive been a member, they are more than capable of turning it into a much bigger project that in currently is.

if its goals are to continue to provide an accessible and affordable poker tour that offers such great value like from my opening paragraph then keep it in the UK, simples.

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Re: Season 6 Discussion
« Reply #204 on: October 31, 2011, 16:23:27 PM »

Just to revisit ( Dog with a bone, I know  ;D)

Would it help the online league if we........

Set up and play 2 rounds per scheduled date. I assume most players could play two tables simultaineously, this would shorten the season duration, reduce the scheduling burden and maybe help retain player interest.

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Re: Season 6 Discussion
« Reply #205 on: October 31, 2011, 16:47:21 PM »


Just to revisit ( Dog with a bone, I know  ;D)

Would it help the online league if we........

Set up and play 2 rounds per scheduled date. I assume most players could play two tables simultaineously, this would shorten the season duration, reduce the scheduling burden and maybe help retain player interest.




That would create a new opportunity..... bonus points for anyone that final tables both tourneys on same night.

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Re: Season 6 Discussion
« Reply #206 on: November 01, 2011, 11:23:17 AM »
I would like the APAT Online events moved to a Sunday.....yet another one going to be missed this Saturday due to other commitments.
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Re: Season 6 Discussion
« Reply #207 on: November 01, 2011, 11:44:57 AM »

I would like the APAT Online events moved to a Sunday.....yet another one going to be missed this Saturday due to other commitments.


I would like them moved to days when I have nothing planned please. :)

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Re: Season 6 Discussion
« Reply #208 on: November 01, 2011, 11:55:22 AM »

I would like the APAT Online events moved to a Sunday.....yet another one going to be missed this Saturday due to other commitments.


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Re: Season 6 Discussion
« Reply #209 on: November 01, 2011, 14:25:00 PM »


I would like the APAT Online events moved to a Sunday.....yet another one going to be missed this Saturday due to other commitments.


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