Season 6 Discussion

[Des]

How shallow would you make starting stacks in those earlier rounds, if best of 3?

[AMRN]

How shallow would you make starting stacks in those earlier rounds, if best of 3?

With 10 minute blind levels, you could start with 30x - so 1500. After 20 minutes, using a steep structure, blinds would be 25/50, 50/100, 100/200 = 7.5x Avg stack. Each round is unlikely to go much beyond 20 minutes, meaning if a match lasts all three rounds, it should be done in an hour.

Deep and steep with best of three has got to be better than having something slightly deeper with one game only (imo). Unless you start 100x or more with a slower clock, it doesn"t really matter whether you are 10x or 50x - it"s all going in preflop so often.  At least if it"s best of three, it"s not a case that the match is simply decided on the first flip.

[AJDUK]

How shallow would you make starting stacks in those earlier rounds, if best of 3?

With 10 minute blind levels, you could start with 30x - so 1500. After 20 minutes, using a steep structure, blinds would be 25/50, 50/100, 100/200 = 7.5x Avg stack. Each round is unlikely to go much beyond 20 minutes, meaning if a match lasts all three rounds, it should be done in an hour.

Deep and steep with best of three has got to be better than having something slightly deeper with one game only (imo). Unless you start 100x or more with a slower clock, it doesn"t really matter whether you are 10x or 50x - it"s all going in preflop so often.  At least if it"s best of three, it"s not a case that the match is simply decided on the first flip.

You mean shallow and steep?

This just makes it best of 3 coinflips IMO. I already decided if the structure of this tourney doesn"t change I won"t be playing it again and this doesn"t entice either. Against a random opponent there"s just no wriggle room, best of 3 or not. Some play has to be encouraged.

Tweaking the above to 15 min and 2K start, best of 3 would improve it though I"d rather see 3K.

Remember this is supposed to be a championship event. If the staff aren"t available to put on a championship event then I"d rather see it NOT on the schedule.

You could I suppose do a round or two of pre-qual online, and then progress to live rounds of say last 16 and beyond. This might help drive a better live structure whilst allowing a decent structure in the earlier round(s) albeit not F2F.

[s4ooter]

And it wont be BO3 flips, a lot of weaker players will get it in hugely behind.... and u *should* hold 2/3 lol
it was annoying, to play for 10mins, get it in 75/25 get sucked out on and be out....waste of a day

10 min blinds, 2k stack is fine.....BO3

40bbs, 20bbs, 15bbs, 10bbs thats 30-40 mins a match (and a lot will go 2-0)

[Santino67]

Fancy having some kind of Charity APAT Event in Season 6? Even if we didn"t do a pot split for it, we could add a reg fee, and with 120+ runners that would be a nice amount for a worthy cause. Just a thought!

[ronaldo07]

And it wont be BO3 flips, a lot of weaker players will get it in hugely behind.... and u *should* hold 2/3 lol
it was annoying, to play for 10mins, get it in 75/25 get sucked out on and be out....waste of a day

10 min blinds, 2k stack is fine.....BO3

40bbs, 20bbs, 15bbs, 10bbs thats 30-40 mins a match (and a lot will go 2-0)

Defo agree with this. If it is this I"m in.

[AceOnTheRiver]

-  In a similar vein (and I know you can"t always control this) plenty of notice for the first National of the season. I missed Coventry this year for this reason and I know a few missed Swansea last year for the same

Any chance of a "save the date" post for the first national of S6? Doesn"t even have to be 100% certain IMHO.

[Moocher]

-  In a similar vein (and I know you can"t always control this) plenty of notice for the first National of the season. I missed Coventry this year for this reason and I know a few missed Swansea last year for the same
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Any chance of a "save the date" post for the first national of S6? Doesn"t even have to be 100% certain IMHO.
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+1 PLEASE

[Des]

It is likely that the opening weekend of season 6 will be either Feb 25th & 26th or Mar 31st & Apr 1st.  Discussions are  ongoing so don"t shoot us if things change please.  But I"m using the Feb dates for my planning purposes atm.

[AceOnTheRiver]

Thanks Des - That"s exactly what I was after and of course I appreciate that it"s all subject to change  

[Waz1892]

It is likely that the opening weekend of season 6 will be either Feb 25th & 26th or Mar 31st & Apr 1st.  Discussions are  ongoing so don"t shoot us if things change please.  But I"m using the Feb dates for my planning purposes atm.

You could actually say that, that IS soon!!!

[Curlarge]

Just a thought on the HU Championship.

Would either of the following work.

1. Have the preliminary rounds (2 possibly), online, a month or so prior to the Worlds. This way the live event can have longer blinds and more chips or be best of 3 or even both. For people taking a day off just for this event it should represent as much value as we can give it.

2. The initial round be a round robin format of 4 players in a group with each player playing the other 3 in a league, with the winner progressing to the last 16 say. This way the "cooler" hand is mitigated to a fair degree and everyone gets 3 games and meets new people.

Just a thought. Happy New Year.

[Swinebag]

Just a thought on the HU Championship.

Would either of the following work.

1. Have the preliminary rounds (2 possibly), online, a month or so prior to the Worlds. This way the live event can have longer blinds and more chips or be best of 3 or even both. For people taking a day off just for this event it should represent as much value as we can give it.

2. The initial round be a round robin format of 4 players in a group with each player playing the other 3 in a league, with the winner progressing to the last 16 say. This way the "cooler" hand is mitigated to a fair degree and everyone gets 3 games and meets new people.

Just a thought. Happy New Year.

2 great ideas here. This event definitely needs looking at because I have felt it hasn"t given players good "bang for their buck"

at the same time, running cost issues such as the number of dealers needed and the time factor have made this difficult to improve on.

rich"s ideas seem to be a good compromise, especially number 1

[AJDUK]

Just a thought on the HU Championship.

Would either of the following work.

1. Have the preliminary rounds (2 possibly), online, a month or so prior to the Worlds. This way the live event can have longer blinds and more chips or be best of 3 or even both. For people taking a day off just for this event it should represent as much value as we can give it.

2. The initial round be a round robin format of 4 players in a group with each player playing the other 3 in a league, with the winner progressing to the last 16 say. This way the "cooler" hand is mitigated to a fair degree and everyone gets 3 games and meets new people.

Just a thought. Happy New Year.

I suggested (1) earlier in this thread. Like the sound of (2) too. Change is needed.

[Swinebag]

Just a thought on the HU Championship.

Would either of the following work.

1. Have the preliminary rounds (2 possibly), online, a month or so prior to the Worlds. This way the live event can have longer blinds and more chips or be best of 3 or even both. For people taking a day off just for this event it should represent as much value as we can give it.

2. The initial round be a round robin format of 4 players in a group with each player playing the other 3 in a league, with the winner progressing to the last 16 say. This way the "cooler" hand is mitigated to a fair degree and everyone gets 3 games and meets new people.

Just a thought. Happy New Year.

I suggested (1) earlier in this thread. Like the sound of (2) too. Change is needed.

Sorry. I agree with Andy  

Rich, try and be more original