Season 6 Discussion

[Scousebill]

Partnership with DTD.... On their site homepage they already have us listed as one of their club partners.. Or is that just for WCOAP.. Whatever happens it will be for the best I am sure..

[Paulie_D]

[daiboot]

Is something happening SOON!!!!!!!!

[Des]

Is something happening SOON!!!!!!!!

Sigh, even the quiet ones go stir crazy during an APAT February.

[Zozzy]

It"s that exciting time of year again. The poker player"s equivalent of the kids waiting for Santa to arrive.

[samuel_9]

its not crismas yet

[Robbiebox]

I will admit I come down firmly on a larger starting stack.
Whilst the structure is important, the starting stack is also important as it gives people a lot more play and more chances if things dont go well early on ~ something players travelling for the weekend to play should get imo.
The time that is needed for this extra increase is only on average about 1 hour extra (the blinds go up >50% every two levels). If time really is the only concern, and as I said this is such a minor increase, consider reducing the blinds to 30min when down to last 5 or 4 players ~ I know a couple of tours do this.

I do think leaving the starting stack at 10k is falling behind the opposition, it definitely is a negative when comparing against all the other tourneys that now have 15k, 20k or 25k to start.

[Jon MW]

I will admit I come down firmly on a larger starting stack.
Whilst the structure is important, the starting stack is also important as it gives people a lot more play and more chances if things dont go well early on ~ something players travelling for the weekend to play should get imo.
The time that is needed for this extra increase is only on average about 1 hour extra (the blinds go up >50% every two levels). If time really is the only concern, and as I said this is such a minor increase, consider reducing the blinds to 30min when down to last 5 or 4 players ~ I know a couple of tours do this.

I do think leaving the starting stack at 10k is falling behind the opposition, it definitely is a negative when comparing against all the other tourneys that now have 15k, 20k or 25k to start.

So what you"re suggesting is to make APAT tournaments a worse structure just so that they can start with more chips?

Saying you want to start with 15k, 20k, 25k, 100k or 1k is completely irrelevant - it"s the structure that decides how good or not the tournament is. People might like the feeling of having more chips to play with but it"s got nothing to do with how good or bad the tournament is.

[MintTrav]

think it would be nice to have >100BBs for an extra level

Don"t reraise with T6 then.

[dwh103]

think it would be nice to have >100BBs for an extra level

Don"t reraise with T6 then.

Hey, it is a fine holding, especially when holding two flush draws.

[WYoung83]

 Only played 3 events last year including the DTD main with a 15k. The Structure, as in blinds and antes was almost spot on, although adding a  level of 500-1k would make it even better. (in the new Genting tour they even have a 250/500 level, but ours is not bad at all for £75 so defently cant argue).

15K for all events would be nice though, more play early on to feel out the competion at the table, better players can reduce the variance (usually because worse players are making open raise 5+x BB) etc. And once we get to end of day 1 it wont make any difference at all to ammount of runners comming back for day 2.

cant understand why people are saying that there is a chance that day two will finish later with a 15k stack. I know that there will be more chips in play, but they will still be shared between the better/more agressive (or more lucky) players and not exactly spread around everyone. So for people to say it will finish later is just lol.

anyway whatever its gonna be somthing to look foward to.

Oh and havent read any discusions about venues, but please put walsall on the tour again.

[Swinebag]

Glad my request has triggered a bit of debate.

The APAT structure is spot on and does not need changing. 10k is a good starting stack and 200 BBs allows for plenty of play.

I just feel that, given that all the other tours have 15K (or more) starting stacks (some of which used to have 10k stacks), that it would be falling behind the times to have shallower starting stacks in APAT events.

If time is an issue (though can"t see that it would be too much) then keeping it at 10K would be fine.

It"s certainly something that could be trialled this season.

[Paulie_D]

Oh and havent read any discusions about venues, but please put walsall on the tour again.

Nooooooo!

[Swinebag]

Walsall = updaters nightmare.

Shame because it"s a great location

[deanp27]

It doesn"t really matter how many chips you start with, I can always bust on the first orbit.

Tbh I think a couple of tweaks can be made to improve but nothing needs to be changed wholesale. I can"t remember the exact structure but I think antes could come in earlier, especially if starting stack was to be increased. An increase in stack would benefit I think because of the limited tourneys I have played there is definitely a crapshoot period around 300/600 400/800 etc. Can"t comment beyond that as I have never passed those blind levels in an APAT before.

If nothing changes it won"t be a disaster but there are a couple of possible improvements that could be made to keep up with the general level of improvements in live poker tournaments generally.

Good luck with season 6