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Title: Blind v Blind Easy Call, Easy Fold ?
Post by: Erimus on November 29, 2013, 15:19:56 PM: Blind on blind no history with villain we are about 6 of a min cash (not really bothered about min cash).
i have 35 bigs villain 15, lose the hand we swop places big blind wise.

Easy call ?, easy fold ?.

thoughts ?

Full Tilt Poker Game #33570042271: $4,000 Guarantee (261721765), Table 10 - NL Hold'em - 250/500 Ante 50 - 14:30:43 WET - 2013/11/29 [09:30:43 ET - 2013/11/29]
Seat 1: Maeroz (4,700)
Seat 3: jumanja777 (42,732)
Seat 4: Krawell31 (21,729)
Seat 5: paranoik333 (47,034)
Seat 6: Plotinus (12,346)
Seat 7: Snos (8,098)
Seat 8: Credo7 (17,556)
Seat 9: x-dandi-x (13,280)
Maeroz antes 50
jumanja777 antes 50
Krawell31 antes 50
paranoik333 antes 50
Plotinus antes 50
Snos antes 50
Credo7 antes 50
x-dandi-x antes 50
Snos posts the small blind of 250
Credo7 posts the big blind of 500
The button is in seat #6
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Credo7 [Qd Kd]
x-dandi-x folds
Maeroz folds
jumanja777 folds
Krawell31 folds
paranoik333 folds
Plotinus folds
Snos raises to 8,048, and is all in
Title: Re: Blind v Blind Easy Call, Easy Fold ?
Post by: Paulie_D on November 29, 2013, 15:23:20 PM: If you"re in it for the win...it"s snap call IMO.
Title: Re: Blind v Blind Easy Call, Easy Fold ?
Post by: s4ooter on November 29, 2013, 16:43:56 PM: AINEC /thread
Title: Re: Blind v Blind Easy Call, Easy Fold ?
Post by: adilong1 on November 29, 2013, 17:16:19 PM: Snappaty snap snap
Title: Re: Blind v Blind Easy Call, Easy Fold ?
Post by: duke3016 on November 29, 2013, 17:22:29 PM: Immediate call, lean back and bask in the glory of a royal flush ;D
Title: Re: Blind v Blind Easy Call, Easy Fold ?
Post by: bear21 on November 29, 2013, 17:53:55 PM: Snap call
then sit back and lose to J6 LOL
Title: Re: Blind v Blind Easy Call, Easy Fold ?
Post by: Erimus on November 30, 2013, 07:15:00 AM: Made the call, was behind to A5 and didn"t get there, don"t think a fold there is too bad depending upon villain, but with no stats was ok with it.
Title: Re: Blind v Blind Easy Call, Easy Fold ?
Post by: Jon MW on November 30, 2013, 07:54:35 AM: I think it"s more the other way around, you can only fold if you have stats which suggest they would only shove in that spot with QQ and above
Title: Re: Blind v Blind Easy Call, Easy Fold ?
Post by: Chipaccrual on November 30, 2013, 08:22:39 AM: I think it"s a fold for me.

Without having any history with the player, I am making some assumptions here, but I would be trusting in my judgement.

The only hands I can see them making this move with are raggy aces and small pocket pairs. Happy to get the call, but also happy to get it through. With anything stronger and therefore wanting action, I don"t see the allin shove getting paid enough from a guy with half his stack at stake.

Based on this read, I"m flipping with half my stack. No thanks.
Title: Re: Blind v Blind Easy Call, Easy Fold ?
Post by: deanp27 on November 30, 2013, 08:28:26 AM: Don"t mind either way but definitely not snap-anything. We are unlikely to be crushing his range. I probably call though ;p
Title: Re: Blind v Blind Easy Call, Easy Fold ?
Post by: mporter123 on November 30, 2013, 09:24:35 AM: http://www.officialpokerrankings.com/fulltiltpoker/Snos/poker/ratings/0A3BE411A0544EF3B6F33A61427F018F.html?t=3

Calling against this guy.

Folding against anyone that doesn"t have a clue. Expect ranges to tighten up significantly on the bubble, given the fact we cover, definitely folding against dem fishes. Nits gonna nit though.
Title: Re: Blind v Blind Easy Call, Easy Fold ?
Post by: Erimus on November 30, 2013, 09:53:36 AM: It wasn"t a snap call from me, and running the numbers was getting 1.19/1 so needed 46% was getting slightly less so it was a -ev call, if he only has 10 bigs then it"s an easy snap.

As Mark has pointed out with the stats from opr he seems to know what he is doing so his range could be a lot wider.

I do prefer to be the shover rather than the caller in theses situations but I liked the look of having 50 bigs at that stage.

Eventually ran AQ into AK and didn"t cash.
Title: Blind v Blind Easy Call, Easy Fold ?
Post by: Swinebag on November 30, 2013, 20:29:40 PM: Against a 15 BB stack I"m min raising to induce a light shove as a vast majority will do this as this is a profitable play for them.

I"d say the plan worked so call, you are crushing his range here. As JMW said , I would need a solid read to fold and am calling against unknowns

ignore this post, misread HH.
Title: Re: Blind v Blind Easy Call, Easy Fold ?
Post by: AMRN on November 30, 2013, 21:02:54 PM: Reluctant fold for me, unless we have a specific note on the SB to know that he shoves near 100% when folded to him in the SB.
Title: Blind v Blind Easy Call, Easy Fold ?
Post by: Swinebag on November 30, 2013, 23:32:33 PM: Lol. completely misread HH. Think this is much closer now. Shoving close to 100% is a profitable play from the SB so read less I tend to still favour the call. I think either option is ok though but calling is more fun.

Unlike Steve, I would want to see this guy fold his SB in this spot a few times to convince me to fold
Title: Re: Blind v Blind Easy Call, Easy Fold ?
Post by: Erimus on December 01, 2013, 01:01:31 AM: Think it"s an either or, if you are feeling like it"s your day go for it, as said min cashing ain"t what we want, them 50 big blinds would of been nice.

Other days I will fold there though, not got a problem with either play, knowing villain now through Marks opr search, happy with the call, obviously not the outcome.