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Poker Forum => General Discussion => Topic started by: pokerpops on September 24, 2014, 11:00:34 AM
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Lost their drinks licence!
http://www.newhamrecorder.co.uk/news/court-crime/breaking_alcohol_ban_at_stratford_supercasino_after_security_staff_allegedly_beat_up_punter_1_3781248
Not the first offence
http://www.newhamrecorder.co.uk/news/court-crime/plastic_glasses_only_at_stratford_supercasino_after_assaults_1_3763772
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The alcohol ban is most disappointing, what possible reason could there be though for banning food between 11pm and 5am?
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The alcohol ban is most disappointing, what possible reason could there be though for banning food between 11pm and 5am?
Those baguettes can do some damage you know...
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The alcohol ban is most disappointing, what possible reason could there be though for banning food between 11pm and 5am?
Those baguettes can do some damage you know...
you should try the hot dogs....lethal!!!
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any idea when the scheldue for stratford will be put up,
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That"s a major blow for Aspers. OK the APAT festival won"t be quite the same, but for Aspers, I wonder how many people going for a night out with a few quid in their pocket will now go elsewhere where they can have a glass of wine with their meal, and a few cocktails at the bar, before hitting the gaming floor.
Also, for those that do go to Aspers rather than elsewhere - I wonder how loose their wallets will be without a glass of something in their hand whilst on the gaming floor.
Would love to be a fly on the accountant"s wall at Aspers as he does his budget forecast now...
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That"s a major blow for Aspers. OK the APAT festival won"t be quite the same, but for Aspers, I wonder how many people going for a night out with a few quid in their pocket will now go elsewhere where they can have a glass of wine with their meal, and a few cocktails at the bar, before hitting the gaming floor.
Punters will still be able to do this as long as it"s before 11pm (the alcohol ban is only post 11pm I believe).
Pretty sure Aspers will be working hard to turn this round. I"d be very surprised if come the WCOAP they aren"t back to serving alcohol until the early hours...
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It says in the report:
The supercasino in Westfield Stratford City will be unable to serve alcohol at any time or food between the hours of 11pm and 5am, following the incident on Saturday night.
They will loose a fortune if it doesn"t get sorted soon!
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It says in the report:
The supercasino in Westfield Stratford City will be unable to serve alcohol at any time or food between the hours of 11pm and 5am, following the incident on Saturday night.
They will loose a fortune if it doesn"t get sorted soon!
Blimey. Right you are. I skim read it from my phone and thought they had only lost their late (post 11pm) license!
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Leaving aside the drinking issue....I"m more concerned about "door supervisors" "beating up" customers.
The "door supervisors" I have known...and I"ve met and talked to many over the decades....the last thing they want is a hassle. It"s a legal quagmire for them and at 2am the last thing they want is to get into a punch up and end up leaving the local nick at omygod o"clock after a night of giving statements.
Bouncers...to give them the name we all use...want a quiet night.
A complete lack of any professionalism...if the allegation is true and I"d be looking into the hiring practices if I was Aspers senior management.
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Even if/when they get their license back, it will be a return to plastic glasses for some time.... yuk !
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Even if/when they get their license back, it will be a return to plastic glasses for some time.... yuk !
£5 a pint for beer in a plastic cup is not good.
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"The suspension will remain in force until a full licensing review hearing", according to the Council.
So, in other words, it"s just a temporary ban.
The number of violent incidents reinforces the concerns some expressed about using that casino, despite it being one of the best cardrooms in the country, especially as we usually leave in the early hours.
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The number of violent incidents reinforces the concerns some expressed about using that casino, despite it being one of the best cardrooms in the country, especially as we usually leave in the early hours.
The same could be said of several city venues APAT has used in the past...Newcastle, Manchester, Glasgow and, of course, Luton.
To me this breaks down into 2 issues... the drunkenness and the violence. It"s quite likely the two are related although I doubt if the casino "door supervisors" were drunk at the time.
Were Asper"s patrons over-served (as the Americans call it)?...Clearly they were and that is a good reason why the licence probably should have been pulled. Bar staff have a duty to cut people off if they are obviously intoxicated...indeed I think it may be an offence not to.
EDIT - It is
It is illegal to knowingly sell alcohol, or attempt to sell alcohol, to a person who is drunk. It is also illegal to allow alcohol to be sold to someone who is drunk.
https://www.gov.uk/government/policies/controlling-the-sale-and-supply-of-alcohol/supporting-pages/we-want-to-curb-hazardous-drinking
For the violence, I am never entirely comfortable walking any distance late at night from a casino back to my chosen hotel or car park but reasonable caution has always been advisable in these instances.
Even taking all the care in the world still isn"t an guarantee of safety as we well know from past incidents regardless of wherever APAT may go.
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It is illegal to knowingly sell alcohol, or attempt to sell alcohol, to a person who is drunk. It is also illegal to allow alcohol to be sold to someone who is drunk.
https://www.gov.uk/government/policies/controlling-the-sale-and-supply-of-alcohol/supporting-pages/we-want-to-curb-hazardous-drinking
That"s Stu Ward buggered then!! ;)
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That"s Stu Ward buggered then!! ;)
Do the bouncers do that to punters as well then !? :D
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The number of violent incidents reinforces the concerns some expressed about using that casino, despite it being one of the best cardrooms in the country, especially as we usually leave in the early hours.
The same could be said of several city venues APAT has used in the past...Newcastle, Manchester, Glasgow and, of course, Luton.
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For the violence, I am never entirely comfortable walking any distance late at night from a casino back to my chosen hotel or car park but reasonable caution has always been advisable in these instances.
Even taking all the care in the world still isn"t an guarantee of safety as we well know from past incidents regardless of wherever APAT may go.
To suggest that that area is no worse than other areas APAT visits and that if people just take reasonable caution, they should be fine is pretty misleading. Stratford is not at all comparable with the casino locations in the places you name. Of course violence happens in all cities and it is mainly young men directing it at each other, but that area is much more prone to incidents than any other we visit. I"m not saying it"s bad enough for us not to go there, but glossing over the truth isn"t the way to deal with it.
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To suggest that that area is no worse than other areas APAT visits
I didn"t say that it was any worse or better...certainly the argument can be made that it"s worse though..and I wouldn"t necessarily disagree.
and that if people just take reasonable caution, they should be fine is pretty misleading.
I didn"t say that either....I said that reasonable caution is advisable and went on to specifically say that even so there are no guarantees of safety.
Stratford is not at all comparable with the casino locations in the places you name. Of course violence happens in all cities and it is mainly young men directing it at each other, but that area is much more prone to incidents than any other we visit. I"m not saying it"s bad enough for us not to go there, but glossing over the truth isn"t the way to deal with it.
Well, we can agree to disagree there...I think it is comparable ...that area may be more prone to incidents...I don"t know and you may be right but I was in no way attempting to "gloss over" anything merely attempting (perhaps poorly) to add some perspective albeit my own.
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have to get this a tad in proportion guys and gals.
im a 5ft, middle aged woman and I am happy to play there on a regular basis including going to and from train stations and car parks. I would rather come out of Stratford then I would the G in luton on my own!
The trouble that has occurred has only been drink induced and possibly shoddy management of the security staff. They need to ensure there is a tightening up of serving people once sizzled but I wouldn"t think twice about playing there late at night, as I have done, and if im honest seen more trouble in Newcastle and Liverpool then I have there.
maybe im too short for anyone to see :)
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im a 5ft, middle aged woman and I am happy to play there on a regular basis
You are not really a likely target for violence and, to be fair, neither are most of the poker players. The main victims of violence are young men. I"m sure you"re relatively safe.
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Damn and blast now I"m safe which equate to old :-)
Seriously though I"m trying to make the point with the thousands of ppl who go through there that there is v little trouble xx
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have to get this a tad in proportion guys and gals.
im a 5ft, middle aged woman and I am happy to play there on a regular basis including going to and from train stations and car parks. I would rather come out of Stratford then I would the G in luton on my own!
The trouble that has occurred has only been drink induced and possibly shoddy management of the security staff. They need to ensure there is a tightening up of serving people once sizzled but I wouldn"t think twice about playing there late at night, as I have done, and if im honest seen more trouble in Newcastle and Liverpool then I have there.
maybe im too short for anyone to see :)
Hobbits self defence classes obv paid for by illegit poker winnings xx ;D