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Title: 6 max NL
Post by: blackops on October 03, 2008, 22:18:09 PM
Can anyone suggest a starting hand guide for sit n go 6 max NL online games as well as 10 seat games online.

Thanks in advance
Title: Re: 6 max NL
Post by: lukybugur on October 03, 2008, 22:48:12 PM
I could suggest a few ranges but I know mine to be far wider than those of the good players on here ;)

I"m pretty sure whatever comes back will be some version of Harringtons tho. Check out the "Harrington on HoldEm" series of books if you haven"t already, they"re a great read.

Welcome to APAT newby
Title: Re: 6 max NL
Post by: LongshanksED on October 03, 2008, 22:55:13 PM
lukybugur is right

harrington on hold em volume 1 suggests opening hand ranges and from what positions

eg

10 man SnG

UTG  fold 10J unsuited but if your the button or cutt off and its folded round to you then it could be a good idea to open with it
Title: Re: 6 max NL
Post by: blackops on October 03, 2008, 22:56:29 PM
thanks for the reply, I have started to read harington on hold em v1 do you suggest I stick to his range?
Title: Re: 6 max NL
Post by: lukybugur on October 03, 2008, 22:59:40 PM
I suppose you can vary a wee bit from it ... or a big bit and become a donk like me!
Title: Re: 6 max NL
Post by: blackops on October 03, 2008, 23:02:05 PM
cool I"ll give it a go and let ya know.
Title: Re: 6 max NL
Post by: RioRodent on October 04, 2008, 07:58:51 AM

Can anyone suggest a starting hand guide for sit n go 6 max NL online games as well as 10 seat games online.

Thanks in advance


Cash or tournaments?
Title: Re: 6 max NL
Post by: WarBwastardo on October 04, 2008, 08:47:52 AM
Not played much 6 handed, but when I did I opened my range to include the jokers and the instruction card.
Title: Re: 6 max NL
Post by: HaworthBantam on October 04, 2008, 09:53:30 AM

Not played much 6 handed, but when I did I opened my range to include the jokers and the instruction card.


;D  ;D
Title: Re: 6 max NL
Post by: AMRN on October 04, 2008, 10:35:28 AM

Not played much 6 handed, but when I did I opened my range to include the jokers and the instruction card.


LOL
Title: Re: 6 max NL
Post by: TopPair2Pair on October 04, 2008, 10:50:54 AM
Would need more info to be of any real help tbh, like what level your playing, how long you been playing, how well you understand the game. Why you need a starting hand guide? Generally they are only suggested for beginners as people tend to live by them vigorously and get found out quite easily, they aren"t great for developing your poker skills either!

Here"s some links to stuff that has helped me out in the past in relation to this subject, they vary from starting hand charts/opening range/general 6m strategy but nothing "SNG" specific!

http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/forum/noobie-s-first-5k-hands-at-10nl-guide-links-and-advice-t71824.html?highlight=6max

http://www.nitricburn.com/BACKUP/kader/Basic6MaxPreflopGeneralGuideUpdate.htm

http://pokeronamac.com/poker-articles/shorthanded-limit-holdem-starting-hand-chart/

http://archives1.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=8629256&an=0&page=0#Post8629256

Happy Reading!
Title: Re: 6 max NL
Post by: RioRodent on October 04, 2008, 16:06:53 PM


Can anyone suggest a starting hand guide for sit n go 6 max NL online games as well as 10 seat games online.

Thanks in advance


Cash or tournaments?


Ah, missed the "sit n go" first time round!!! I gues that"ll be tournaments then?

Just search Google for Sit n Go [SNG] [STT] strategy...you"ll find all you need.

To sum up... 1. Don"t bother with 6-max SnGs; 2. Don"t play any hand lower than KK until you have <= 10 BBs; 3. Get some idea of ICM [Google it], for when you are down <= 10 BBs.
Title: Re: 6 max NL
Post by: LongshanksED on October 04, 2008, 20:37:56 PM
you need to get a feel for the table in the 1st few levels and judge how tight/loose the other players are

harington on hold em will give you a basic understanding of starting hands and what positions to bet or steal from - but you need to be wary of other players slow playing big hands and you only get a feel for that from watching the table

you also need to watch out for stack sizes - yours and others

must admit i play 5 man SnG and have decent results from it but generally i find the lower the stakes the more random players become
Title: Re: 6 max NL
Post by: RioRodent on October 04, 2008, 20:49:13 PM



Can anyone suggest a starting hand guide for sit n go 6 max NL online games as well as 10 seat games online.

Thanks in advance


Cash or tournaments?


Ah, missed the "sit n go" first time round!!! I gues that"ll be tournaments then?

Just search Google for Sit n Go [SNG] [STT] strategy...you"ll find all you need.

To sum up... 1. Don"t bother with 6-max SnGs; 2. Don"t play any hand lower than KK until you have <= 10 BBs; 3. Get some idea of ICM [Google it], for when you are down <= 10 BBs.


The un-abridged bersion -

http://blondepoker.com/?q=node/3448
http://blondepoker.com/?q=node/3498
http://blondepoker.com/?q=node/3523
Title: Re: 6 max NL
Post by: blackops on October 04, 2008, 21:48:50 PM
Thanks everyone just got my pc working again and have read the replies, maybe I"ll stick to the 10 man sng, the reason I asked was I started playing cash games and didnt do to well but was advised that these are easy money, just confused myself a bit I think moving from sng"s to cash, have taken on board what has been said and will stay with sng"s and yes I am new to this and have been playing for a few months now but any advise is welcome.

Thanks
Title: Re: 6 max NL
Post by: blackops on October 04, 2008, 22:23:50 PM
Title: Re: 6 max NL
Post by: TopPair2Pair on October 04, 2008, 23:58:54 PM
Well if your having success with the SNGs then its probably best to stick at them! Moving up through the levels or playing 2+ SNGs at once when your ready.

Can relate to what your going through tho as I was trying to figure out cash game opening hands out bout 12 months ago and found it pretty difficult!!

If you do decide to give cash another crack, I suggest avoiding NL 6max (only to start with) as a lot of stealing and restealing goes on here and this is why its quite profitable or "easy money" for good experienced players, post flop play is also very strong.

You can always test yourself at fullring nl/limit and then move to 6max after your beating this level which is pretty simple given the resources online. Find a good online article you think makes sense to work with your style of play, then use pokerstove to tweak it by position, shove it in a document and build your own range as you go along, opening it up as you get better & grow in confidence.Good luck!
Title: Re: 6 max NL
Post by: noble1 on October 09, 2008, 05:54:41 AM
1. disregard all poker books for now [imo they hinder and stifle beginners in having flair in there own poker games]
2. play micro stakes with money you can afford to lose
3. play as much poker as you possibly can
4. review all your sessions and hands of intrest [won as well as lost ones]
5. learn from your mistakes
6. even when out of hands, try to predict your opponents cards
7. get active on poker forums and get to know whos advice to take
8. always question your plays , right ones as well as wrong ones
9. join a training site
10. try playing with your hands covered up [aids you in learning opponent reading skills]
11. hopefully a good training site will prevent you from getting to nitty and all the other things odds,equity,reading of opponents etc etc will be advised by cardrunners PokerXfactor etc etc
12. at a certain point you will need pokertracker and hud if still playing cash
13. the list is endless , Above all enjoy playing poker and learn not to tilt
14. totally forget about having hand range charts and learn instead to adjust to opponents ranges and styles of play [poker is about playing the players]