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Poker Forum => General Discussion => Topic started by: mattblue on January 14, 2009, 14:56:11 PM
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can i play tonight sat and if win seat use it for other one or give it to my missus if she dont win one by tonight ???
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can i play tonight sat and if win seat use it for other one or give it to my missus if she dont win one by tonight ???
If you have already qualified for Walsall, then you cannot win another seat or clickfest in.
This is done so to give everyone a fair chance at gaining a seat.
Leigh
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so i cant use it for another live tourny or give it my missus
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can i play tonight sat and if win seat use it for other one or give it to my missus if she dont win one by tonight ???
If you have already qualified for Walsall, then you cannot win another seat or clickfest in.
This is done so to give everyone a fair chance at gaining a seat.
Leigh
What would happen if somebody who already had a seat did enter the sat and "won", or went through the clickfest and bought another one?
Would they just be manually removed from getting a seat and either the money put on their account (for the sat) or the money not charged (for the clickfest) ?
I ask because it has been stated elsewhere that you can register for other people in the clickfest.
Is the key that it has to be under their name?
So the clickfest you can do - but you"d have to have the other persons name down as who the seat is for. But the satellite you couldn"t do because thats obv going to be in your name.
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The clickfest you can buy in for anyone - you just enter their name and then your payment details (or theirs if they"ve given them to you). That"s absolutely fine.
Playing in a satellite for someone else isn"t fair. the whole point of qualifying is to qualify for the tournament you"re going to play in. If someone wants to play and doesn"t want to satellite in, then they have to buy-in like everyone else.
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The clickfest you can buy in for anyone - you just enter their name and then your payment details (or theirs if they"ve given them to you). That"s absolutely fine.
Playing in a satellite for someone else isn"t fair. the whole point of qualifying is to qualify for the tournament you"re going to play in. If someone wants to play and doesn"t want to satellite in, then they have to buy-in like everyone else.
This is basically my point of view, but it was the question of how this is avoided that interested me.
i.e. What happens if somebody who already has a seat wins a satellite?
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The clickfest you can buy in for anyone - you just enter their name and then your payment details (or theirs if they"ve given them to you). That"s absolutely fine.
Playing in a satellite for someone else isn"t fair. the whole point of qualifying is to qualify for the tournament you"re going to play in. If someone wants to play and doesn"t want to satellite in, then they have to buy-in like everyone else.
This is basically my point of view, but it was the question of how this is avoided that interested me.
i.e. What happens if somebody who already has a seat wins a satellite?
That would only really happen if they had already won a satellite. If this were to happen then they would have to receive the cash into their Blue Sq account, but that would also mean that someone else has missed out on a seat and that really goes against what APAT is all about, so I would hope no players would enter a satellite after they have already qualified. Seems a bit pointless to me.
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lol so i cant use for another apat game like gptuk?
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lol so i cant use for another apat game like gptuk?
Definitely not. ;D
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ok thanks for help but cant see why not ?
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ok thanks for help but cant see why not ?
To make it an equal playing field for each event.
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noticed you regged anyway matt..
please dont KO me
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Just out of curiosity what does happen if Matt wins another seat tonight? Does he just get the cash equivalent and the seat be added to the click-fest allocation?
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The clickfest you can buy in for anyone - you just enter their name and then your payment details (or theirs if they"ve given them to you). That"s absolutely fine.
Playing in a satellite for someone else isn"t fair. the whole point of qualifying is to qualify for the tournament you"re going to play in. If someone wants to play and doesn"t want to satellite in, then they have to buy-in like everyone else.
This is basically my point of view, but it was the question of how this is avoided that interested me.
i.e. What happens if somebody who already has a seat wins a satellite?
That would only really happen if they had already won a satellite. If this were to happen then they would have to receive the cash into their Blue Sq account, but that would also mean that someone else has missed out on a seat and that really goes against what APAT is all about, so I would hope no players would enter a satellite after they have already qualified. Seems a bit pointless to me.
What Leigh said. Future MD in my opinion... ;)
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Just out of curiosity what does happen if Matt wins another seat tonight? Does he just get the cash equivalent and the seat be added to the click-fest allocation?
I would imagine there would be a forming of an angry mob composed of Des, Leigh and Ian and any others as required. They would then run Matt out of town with torches and pitchforks. And rightly so.
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I think if u win a seat you shouldnt be allowed to play another satty.
A lot of people can afford to play walsall but use the satty as a tool of avoiding the clickfest
FACT
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I think if u win a seat you shouldnt be allowed to play another satty.
A lot of people can afford to play walsall but use the satty as a tool of avoiding the clickfest
FACT
Very true.
At a regional last season at Walsall, a local asked why we were so bothered about a satellite for £75 tournament.
I had to explain that it wasn"t the entry fee that was prohibitive - it was the demand for seats. Qualifying before the clickfest guarantees a seat. All the money in the world (well, that might be an exaggeration) can"t ensure you"ll get a seat in the clickfest.
If someone who has a seat finishes as one of the winners in a subsequent satellite, I wouldn"t want to be the one who bubbles...
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Matt is chip leader now
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I think if u win a seat you shouldnt be allowed to play another satty.
A lot of people can afford to play walsall but use the satty as a tool of avoiding the clickfest
FACT
Unfortunately we cannot stop people from playing other satellites. What we can do is ensure that they cannot win another seat and then sell that on to whomever they choose.
The person in question is currently near the chiplead as I write, and I hear what Dan is saying about the bubble.
In the case of tonights satellite, there are 14 seats and $5 for the bubble, so without this persons buy-in there would have only been 13 seats + cash for 14th.
And if they do finish in the top 14, then they just get the cash and that"s an extra seat for the clickfest.
However, it would be far easier, if when you have qualified, you don"t enter anymore satellites.
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I think if u win a seat you shouldnt be allowed to play another satty.
A lot of people can afford to play walsall but use the satty as a tool of avoiding the clickfest
FACT
Unfortunately we cannot stop people from playing other satellites. What we can do is ensure that they cannot win another seat and then sell that on to whomever they choose.
The person in question is currently near the chiplead as I write, and I hear what Dan is saying about the bubble.
In the case of tonights satellite, there are 14 seats and $5 for the bubble, so without this persons buy-in there would have only been 13 seats + cash for 14th.
And if they do finish in the top 14, then they just get the cash and that"s an extra seat for the clickfest.
However, it would be far easier, if when you have qualified, you don"t enter anymore satellites.
Did Des not say earlier he has to sell the seat via the seat exchange? In the interests of fairness and to assuage any controversy, I"ll take his seat and let this just be a lesson to us all for future satellites.
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I think if u win a seat you shouldnt be allowed to play another satty.
A lot of people can afford to play walsall but use the satty as a tool of avoiding the clickfest
FACT
Unfortunately we cannot stop people from playing other satellites. What we can do is ensure that they cannot win another seat and then sell that on to whomever they choose.
The person in question is currently near the chiplead as I write, and I hear what Dan is saying about the bubble.
In the case of tonights satellite, there are 14 seats and $5 for the bubble, so without this persons buy-in there would have only been 13 seats + cash for 14th.
And if they do finish in the top 14, then they just get the cash and that"s an extra seat for the clickfest.
However, it would be far easier, if when you have qualified, you don"t enter anymore satellites.
Did Des not say earlier he has to sell the seat via the seat exchange? In the interests of fairness and to assuage any controversy, I"ll take his seat and let this just be a lesson to us all for future satellites.
I can"t let you do that. I will take the bullet to help diffuse the situation and take the seat. It"s the least I can do...
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i just seen post i think bit sad really but if u feel that way put my seat in hat to all who played tonite and draw out winner
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i just seen post i think bit sad really but if u feel that way put my seat in hat to all who played tonite and draw out winner
To be fair mate, you were told prior to the tourny starting that you wouldn"t be able to use it for a future tourny or transfer it to your better half.
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matt - remember your mates in the black country tour..... happy to take your second ticket.
well played for qualifying twice by the way :)
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cant see why not but just fort i play any way for a game i added $10 to pot
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Just knocked out by matt me :as: kd vs matts ac tc td on the river.
Oh well clickfest it is.
We do need to sought this out though.
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I think the fairest solution is just to put the seat in the click-fest pool.
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Just knocked out by matt me :as: kd vs matts ac tc td on the river.
Oh well clickfest it is.
We do need to sought this out though.
ul mike...a bitter pill to swallow there.
Of course, it wouldn"t be a problem if there wasn"t such demand for seats in the clickfest
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I think the fairest solution is just to put the seat in the click-fest pool.
That is what will happen. I believe
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Matt my post was not meant to be a criticism- I was just hoping we could have a rule change in future.
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I dont really have a problem with Matt playing tonight (although I personally wouldnt have bothered if I had already won a seat) as there are no rules to say he cant. I think we need a rule in place to save any future problems.
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no its ok mate just draw it out hat
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cant see y cant use it 4 another apat game and seat go back in click feast but u do what think best woop woop
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cant see y cant use it 4 another apat game and seat go back in click feast but u do what think best woop woop
Because it wasn"t a qualifier for any random APAT national, it was specifically Walsall.
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I would guess Matt wanted to play with his mates and there is no harm in that. We"ll write the rule down for the next event and there will be no confusion or excuses.
Right now, imo, we will offer the seat to whoever bubbles in tonight"s satellite. That seems appropriate.
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cant see y cant use it 4 another apat game and seat go back in click feast but u do what think best woop woop
Problem is matt if u make satty"s interchangeable then you could find that event in future is sold out before the click fest cos everyone else has sattied in
It"s not like a GUKPT field where there are two day 1"s and the field is uncapped. If we had an uncapped field I reckon the satty"s wouldn"t be nearly as popular as probs half the field would just buy in directly (probably saving themselves a lot of money)
I can afford the £75 but was overjoyed to satty in and avoid possible disappointment tomorrow night.
Hope this makes sense as to why some are perturbed that you"ve taken a seat
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I am all for whoever bubbles getting the seat Des!!!!!!!!!!!!
Nothing to do with fact still in!
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I would guess Matt wanted to play with his mates and there is no harm in that. We"ll write the rule down for the next event and there will be no confusion or excuses.
Right now, imo, we will offer the seat to whoever bubbles in tonight"s satellite. That seems appropriate.
Des - is that confirmed? kind of makes a big difference right now to know that for sure
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I would guess Matt wanted to play with his mates and there is no harm in that. We"ll write the rule down for the next event and there will be no confusion or excuses.
Right now, imo, we will offer the seat to whoever bubbles in tonight"s satellite. That seems appropriate.
Des - is that confirmed? kind of makes a big difference right now to know that for sure
Yes...although if Matt wins a seat the bubble will get the option to buy it from him.
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So just to be clear, it won"t be allocated to me?
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confused now.
so it will still cost the bubble boy £75
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I would guess Matt wanted to play with his mates and there is no harm in that. We"ll write the rule down for the next event and there will be no confusion or excuses.
Right now, imo, we will offer the seat to whoever bubbles in tonight"s satellite. That seems appropriate.
Des - is that confirmed? kind of makes a big difference right now to know that for sure
Yes...although if Matt wins a seat the bubble will get the option to buy it from him.
great idea.
deffo need a ruling for future though
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confused now.
so it will still cost the bubble boy £75
Of course it will. We can"t withdraw any prize money that Matt wins, but we can ensure that the seat remains unallocated. The bubble will get the option to buy it.
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oke doke des cheers
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wooohooooo chip leader for first 90 mins, but no fingernails left in the end..... what a scrape!!
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Well played all.
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Right, I"d like to record that "marcelharry" has the option to buy a seat for Walsall as he bubbled the final satellite.
This situation has been brought about by an unforseen circumstance and there will be a rule written to ensure this does not happen again.
The ruling made this evening was in favour of the short stacks, which I felt was more appropriate than putting the seat into the general pool for tomorrow night"s clickfest.
Des.
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can you confirm how many seats are available in the clickfest Des?
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can you confirm how many seats are available in the clickfest Des?
Not until tomorrow night when everything is neatly totted up James, but I do think this will sell out very quickly. I hope not, because I know a lot of people have tried to get in via the sats, and I"d like you all to get a seat.
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can you confirm how many seats are available in the clickfest Des?
Not until tomorrow night when everything is neatly totted up James, but I do think this will sell out very quickly. I hope not, because I know a lot of people have tried to get in via the sats, and I"d like you all to get a seat.
ok thanks, was it 120 seats to start (capacity of Walsall?)
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can you confirm how many seats are available in the clickfest Des?
Not until tomorrow night when everything is neatly totted up James, but I do think this will sell out very quickly. I hope not, because I know a lot of people have tried to get in via the sats, and I"d like you all to get a seat.
ok thanks, was it 120 seats to start (capacity of Walsall?)
For APAT, it is a 200 seat venue.
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can you confirm how many seats are available in the clickfest Des?
Not until tomorrow night when everything is neatly totted up James, but I do think this will sell out very quickly. I hope not, because I know a lot of people have tried to get in via the sats, and I"d like you all to get a seat.
ok thanks, was it 120 seats to start (capacity of Walsall?)
For APAT, it is a 200 seat venue.
I have nothing to worry about in the clickfest then 8) 8)
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well done to everyone that got through tonite.
Thanks Des for keeping on top of things
see you all in Walsall
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good game every1 see u at walsall at least my $10 made 14th seat and found out the rules need changeing then good luck to my missus in click feast and every1
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good game every1 see u at walsall at least my $10 made 14th seat and found out the rules need changeing then good luck to my missus in click feast and every1
Matt you ruined the comp for me
You were raisng all the time in the late stages since you already had a seat at walsall
Then the general confusion about the bubble and the spare tickect
They need to bring a rule for people not to enter turneys if they have won a set
See you all at Walsall
Marcel
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good game every1 see u at walsall at least my $10 made 14th seat and found out the rules need changeing then good luck to my missus in click feast and every1
Matt you ruined the comp for me
You were raisng all the time in the late stages since you already had a seat at walsall
Then the general confusion about the bubble and the spare tickect
They need to bring a rule for people not to enter turneys if they have won a set
See you all at Walsall
Marcel
Are you intending to purchase Matt's seat Marcel?
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yeah sound m8 see u there i only played my hands never ruined it i made up 14th with my $10
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good game every1 see u at walsall at least my $10 made 14th seat and found out the rules need changeing then good luck to my missus in click feast and every1
Matt you ruined the comp for me
You were raisng all the time in the late stages since you already had a seat at walsall
Then the general confusion about the bubble and the spare tickect
They need to bring a rule for people not to enter turneys if they have won a set
See you all at Walsall
Marcel
that is unfair ! maybe matt shouldnt been in tourney but at the end of day if he wasnt it wouyld been totally different out come and marcel you would probably not be that deep. you still got a ticket if you want it and to blame matt for you not winning seat is unfair.
with 1 person not playin the whole tourney dynamics would be different.
Matt knows now he made mistake by playin it but he did and tourney panned out cos of every player in it !
You still got ticket if you want which most players will glady swo pwith you .give the ticket to next player if you dont respect this decision
unfair post imo
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good game every1 see u at walsall at least my $10 made 14th seat and found out the rules need changeing then good luck to my missus in click feast and every1
Matt you ruined the comp for me
You were raisng all the time in the late stages since you already had a seat at walsall
Then the general confusion about the bubble and the spare tickect
They need to bring a rule for people not to enter turneys if they have won a set
See you all at Walsall
Marcel
A little harsh - Matt just played the standard big stack role toward the bubble of a satellite....... and it"s not really his fault that the rule wasn"t clear when he entered. You got in anyway and benefitted from the rule change..... and think about this - if matt hadn"t paid his entry for the satellite, there would only be 13 seats and not 14, meaning you would now be in the clickfest lotto.
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sorry posted under sum 1 else user name trying to get them in click feast (wag) end of day i played my cards coming to end of game and i fort i played well for change lol tell u what if u feel hard done by have seat and just by me a drink at bar cant be fairer then that woop woop :P
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good game every1 see u at walsall at least my $10 made 14th seat and found out the rules need changeing then good luck to my missus in click feast and every1
Matt you ruined the comp for me
You were raisng all the time in the late stages since you already had a seat at walsall
Then the general confusion about the bubble and the spare tickect
They need to bring a rule for people not to enter turneys if they have won a set
See you all at Walsall
Marcel
A little harsh - Matt just played the standard big stack role toward the bubble of a satellite....... and it"s not really his fault that the rule wasn"t clear when he entered. You got in anyway and benefitted from the rule change..... and think about this - if matt hadn"t paid his entry for the satellite, there would only be 13 seats and not 14, meaning you would now be in the clickfest lotto.
He would also have won over £100.
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and also have to do click feast
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maybe won money but prob not , if one player missing from re buy tourney total diff tourney an total diff prize pool . could been 10 seats ,20 seats whole dynamic of tourney is diff!
you can only say what prizepool would have been in frrezout if 1 player hadnt played ! but tourney still totally diff!
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This one is dead and buried folks... we"ve all learned something from it.
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This one is dead and buried folks... we"ve all learned something from it.
Do you like having the last word Des? ;)
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This one is dead and buried folks... we"ve all learned something from it.
+1
although can you say if he took ticket des?
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good game every1 see u at walsall at least my $10 made 14th seat and found out the rules need changeing then good luck to my missus in click feast and every1
Matt you ruined the comp for me
You were raisng all the time in the late stages since you already had a seat at walsall
Then the general confusion about the bubble and the spare tickect
They need to bring a rule for people not to enter turneys if they have won a set
See you all at Walsall
Marcel
are see u at the black country thing 1st i think it before walsall
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des i changed my mind i dont want to sell it lol woop woop put it in hat and draw it out
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good game every1 see u at walsall at least my $10 made 14th seat and found out the rules need changeing then good luck to my missus in click feast and every1
Matt you ruined the comp for me
You were raisng all the time in the late stages since you already had a seat at walsall
Then the general confusion about the bubble and the spare tickect
They need to bring a rule for people not to enter turneys if they have won a set
See you all at Walsall
Marcel
are see u at the black country thing 1st i think it before walsall
o no me wrong again black country on 13th see u at walsall
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This one is dead and buried folks... we"ve all learned something from it.
+1
although can you say if he took ticket des?
If he doesn"t Steve, I will and will be allocating it to the first of the clickfesters to fail to get a seat this evening. He has just recently joined the forum so I am going to contact him again after this evening.
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mattblue is the dogs and is a unreconised expert poker player you could all learn alot from this top geezer woop woop see u in walsal matt
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mattblue is the dogs and is a unreconised expert poker player you could all learn alot from this top geezer woop woop see u in walsal matt
How many log in names have you got Matt?
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that many cant remember them all lol woop woop
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Thought you"d hijacked your better halfs log in ;D
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no lol she done it her self cant u tell better at spellling but sadley not poker
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well ur right on 1 point lol ,sadly
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yeah lol only nuts u get is mine woop woop
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good game every1 see u at walsall at least my $10 made 14th seat and found out the rules need changeing then good luck to my missus in click feast and every1
Matt you ruined the comp for me
You were raisng all the time in the late stages since you already had a seat at walsall
Then the general confusion about the bubble and the spare tickect
They need to bring a rule for people not to enter turneys if they have won a set
See you all at Walsall
Marcel
Marcel , I noticed that when there were 2 tables left you accused the other table of collusion in the chatbox. Just curious, but what was the outcome of this accusation?
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yeah lol only nuts u get is mine woop woop
well if you dont hurry up their will be no allin for you
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seriously TMI
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Right, I"d like to record that "marcelharry" has the option to buy a seat for Walsall as he bubbled the final satellite.
This situation has been brought about by an unforseen circumstance and there will be a rule written to ensure this does not happen again.
The ruling made this evening was in favour of the short stacks, which I felt was more appropriate than putting the seat into the general pool for tomorrow night"s clickfest.
Des.
Des
Can I have the seat then please?
Marcel