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Title: blackbelt poker or badbeat poker?????
Post by: antthecat on April 12, 2009, 13:26:27 PM
ive been reading a lot of poker mags recently and have noticed there is a couple of sites whom are staking players, badbeat has been running for a while and blackbelt will be running by the end of the month. i was wondering if anyone has used the staking sites and would let me know what to expect.
Title: Re: blackbelt poker or badbeat poker?????
Post by: TightEnd on April 12, 2009, 13:34:26 PM
cough, there are other options too

PM if interested
Title: Re: blackbelt poker or badbeat poker?????
Post by: APAT on April 12, 2009, 16:03:00 PM

cough, there are other options too

PM if interested


Recommended.
Title: Re: blackbelt poker or badbeat poker?????
Post by: 5 High on April 12, 2009, 18:41:54 PM
I"ve never wanted to go down that route but
if you want staked I would recommend blonde poker. :-*
you need to use tracker software to show your results,6000 hands for cash or 200 stt"s



Title: Re: blackbelt poker or badbeat poker?????
Post by: scouse3465 on April 12, 2009, 19:56:01 PM
Why do we not have a staking thread on here ??
Could we Des ?
Title: Re: blackbelt poker or badbeat poker?????
Post by: MintTrav on April 13, 2009, 14:13:18 PM


cough, there are other options too

PM if interested


Recommended.

I would love to get staked - save me spending so much time on satellites. But Blonde requires 300 posts before you can request staking - so I could join & maybe get staked in about two years time. What"s the point?
Title: Re: blackbelt poker or badbeat poker?????
Post by: Eck on April 13, 2009, 14:19:58 PM



cough, there are other options too

PM if interested


Recommended.

I would love to get staked - save me spending so much time on satellites. But Blonde requires 300 posts before you can request staking - so I could join & maybe get staked in about two years time. What"s the point?


Takes Kin about half a morning to get 300 posts in.

Granted you would get more sense from plankton but 300 posts is 300 posts.  ;)
Title: Re: blackbelt poker or badbeat poker?????
Post by: APAT on April 13, 2009, 14:20:46 PM
Staking is fine in principle, with the exception of the occasional grimmer who does a runner with your stake money.  APAT would not get involved with staking for this reason and I would guess that"s why blonde requires 300 posts.
Title: Re: blackbelt poker or badbeat poker?????
Post by: mal666 on April 13, 2009, 15:10:44 PM



cough, there are other options too

PM if interested


Recommended.

I would love to get staked - save me spending so much time on satellites. But Blonde requires 300 posts before you can request staking - so I could join & maybe get staked in about two years time. What"s the point?

The 300 posts rule applies to staking between members.
Blonde however run the SAS scheme wich is completely separate and is open to all members regardless of post count.
Entry requirement is as low as break even @ 6k hands at your chosen cash level or 200 sng`s. You will then be staked at the level Above the one you qualified at.
Title: Re: blackbelt poker or badbeat poker?????
Post by: AceOnTheRiver on April 13, 2009, 20:59:21 PM



cough, there are other options too

PM if interested


Recommended.

I would love to get staked - save me spending so much time on satellites. But Blonde requires 300 posts before you can request staking - so I could join & maybe get staked in about two years time. What"s the point?


It"s essentially just talking a lot John...... Can"t see that being a problem for you? :)
Title: Re: blackbelt poker or badbeat poker?????
Post by: AceOnTheRiver on April 13, 2009, 21:00:24 PM




cough, there are other options too

PM if interested


Recommended.

I would love to get staked - save me spending so much time on satellites. But Blonde requires 300 posts before you can request staking - so I could join & maybe get staked in about two years time. What"s the point?


It"s essentially just takling a lot John...... Can"t see that being a problem for you? :)


And it doesn"t even have to make sense..... again, right up your street!! (See what I did there)
Title: Re: blackbelt poker or badbeat poker?????
Post by: AceOnTheRiver on April 13, 2009, 21:03:55 PM

Why do we not have a staking thread on here ??
Could we Des ?


+1 (and I"ve just added another post Trav)

Seriously though, I think this is a geat idea - I would love the opportunity to stake and be staked by fellow APAT-ers - I mean, isn"t part of APAT's raison d"etre (sp?) to get the professional experience for the amateur player??

Can we Des? Please, Please... be yer best mate etc.

(maybe I shouldn"t drink all day on these BHs  ;D)
Title: Re: blackbelt poker or badbeat poker?????
Post by: duke3016 on April 13, 2009, 23:30:54 PM




cough, there are other options too

PM if interested


Recommended.

I would love to get staked - save me spending so much time on satellites. But Blonde requires 300 posts before you can request staking - so I could join & maybe get staked in about two years time. What"s the point?


Takes Kin about half a morning to get 300 posts in.

Granted you would get more sense from plankton but 300 posts is 300 posts.  ;)

(http://www.runescape.ex.lv/bildes/posti.gif)
Title: Re: blackbelt poker or badbeat poker?????
Post by: kinboshi on April 14, 2009, 09:14:05 AM




cough, there are other options too

PM if interested


Recommended.

I would love to get staked - save me spending so much time on satellites. But Blonde requires 300 posts before you can request staking - so I could join & maybe get staked in about two years time. What"s the point?

The 300 posts rule applies to staking between members.
Blonde however run the SAS scheme wich is completely separate and is open to all members regardless of post count.
Entry requirement is as low as break even @ 6k hands at your chosen cash level or 200 sng`s. You will then be staked at the level Above the one you qualified at.



What he said.

The SAS scheme doesn"t even require membership of the blonde forum (although you might have to sign up to contact them about your interest for the scheme).

For recreational players like myself, it"s ideal.  I get to play at a level that my own bankroll wouldn"t allow, and I get to play without "playing scared" with money that I can"t really afford to lose.

The reason APAT wouldn"t get involved in something like this is the size of the investment required.  If there are say 50 people receiving staking at .50/1 cash games, what sort of "bankroll" would APAT need to provide to get those players going?  £1,000 each for starters?  That"s £50,000 invested with no guarantee of any return (although you"d hope there"d be some).
Title: Re: blackbelt poker or badbeat poker?????
Post by: kinboshi on April 14, 2009, 09:14:21 AM
Title: Re: blackbelt poker or badbeat poker?????
Post by: Chipaccrual on April 14, 2009, 11:56:31 AM


The reason APAT wouldn"t get involved in something like this is the size of the investment required.  If there are say 50 people receiving staking at .50/1 cash games, what sort of "bankroll" would APAT need to provide to get those players going?  £1,000 each for starters?  That"s £50,000 invested with no guarantee of any return (although you"d hope there"d be some).



The main reason why APAT would not get involved at the moment in offering staking or allowing players to stake each other through the forum is purely due to a lack of control.  The last thing we want is for a player to get grimmed and for it to have happened on the APAT forum (although we don"t want anyone to get grimmed on any forum either).

Blonde put in place a 300 post rule for their staking threads.  I believe that this monitored, to try to ensure it is used by known players and therefore there is a level of trust within the transaction.

The new SAS scheme is fantastic, but it also has a control in place in that you must first prove yourself by playing a number of hands and then your stats are reviewed before joining the scheme.  Your daily cash is then controlled which reduces the chances of Blonde getting stung.

All of this requires administrative time.  Blonde have staff members who can do this, making them an ideal place for this scheme to be rolled out.

I don"t believe the size of investment would come into the discussion.
Title: Re: blackbelt poker or badbeat poker?????
Post by: kinboshi on April 14, 2009, 12:08:12 PM



The reason APAT wouldn"t get involved in something like this is the size of the investment required.  If there are say 50 people receiving staking at .50/1 cash games, what sort of "bankroll" would APAT need to provide to get those players going?  £1,000 each for starters?  That"s £50,000 invested with no guarantee of any return (although you"d hope there"d be some).



The main reason why APAT would not get involved at the moment in offering staking or allowing players to stake each other through the forum is purely due to a lack of control.  The last thing we want is for a player to get grimmed and for it to have happened on the APAT forum (although we don"t want anyone to get grimmed on any forum either).

Blonde put in place a 300 post rule for their staking threads.  I believe that this monitored, to try to ensure it is used by known players and therefore there is a level of trust within the transaction.

The new SAS scheme is fantastic, but it also has a control in place in that you must first prove yourself by playing a number of hands and then your stats are reviewed before joining the scheme.  Your daily cash is then controlled which reduces the chances of Blonde getting stung.

All of this requires administrative time.  Blonde have staff members who can do this, making them an ideal place for this scheme to be rolled out.

I don"t believe the size of investment would come into the discussion.


I wasn"t talking about the player-to-player staking - I was just talking about the blonde SAS scheme.

The player-to-player staking is a totally different matter imo.
Title: Re: blackbelt poker or badbeat poker?????
Post by: Jon MW on April 14, 2009, 12:10:32 PM
In reply to the OP

Look at the terms and conditions for each site - blackbelt, badbeat and blonde

Each one will suit different people. Mainly depending on how much time you can put in to it and how good you are.

If you have a realistic knowledge of where you stand with these two criteria then you should be able to work out which scheme you are best suited for.
Title: Re: blackbelt poker or badbeat poker?????
Post by: Chipaccrual on April 14, 2009, 12:39:23 PM




The reason APAT wouldn"t get involved in something like this is the size of the investment required.  If there are say 50 people receiving staking at .50/1 cash games, what sort of "bankroll" would APAT need to provide to get those players going?  £1,000 each for starters?  That"s £50,000 invested with no guarantee of any return (although you"d hope there"d be some).



The main reason why APAT would not get involved at the moment in offering staking or allowing players to stake each other through the forum is purely due to a lack of control.  The last thing we want is for a player to get grimmed and for it to have happened on the APAT forum (although we don"t want anyone to get grimmed on any forum either).

Blonde put in place a 300 post rule for their staking threads.  I believe that this monitored, to try to ensure it is used by known players and therefore there is a level of trust within the transaction.

The new SAS scheme is fantastic, but it also has a control in place in that you must first prove yourself by playing a number of hands and then your stats are reviewed before joining the scheme.  Your daily cash is then controlled which reduces the chances of Blonde getting stung.

All of this requires administrative time.  Blonde have staff members who can do this, making them an ideal place for this scheme to be rolled out.

I don"t believe the size of investment would come into the discussion.


I wasn"t talking about the player-to-player staking - I was just talking about the blonde SAS scheme.

The player-to-player staking is a totally different matter imo.


I know you were.  I was merely stating the reason why APAT doesn"t offer staking is not one of investment, but one of control over potential grimming.

That"s all.   ;D