Amateur Poker Association & Tour

Communities => APAT Central Poker Clubs => APAT Local Poker Clubs => Leeds Poker Club => Topic started by: HaworthBantam on May 19, 2009, 11:44:21 AM

Title: APAT Central Division, Round 9
Post by: HaworthBantam on May 19, 2009, 11:44:21 AM

The 9th round of the National League is almost upon us.  Round 9 is this Sunday, the 24th May at 8pm.

You can register for the Central Division tournament on BlueSQ now, and you"ll need the following password:

leaguepl

(This will be the password for the rest of the season).

(http://i513.photobucket.com/albums/t337/HaworthBantam/BlueSquare.jpg)


Feel free to forward the password, but remember players must be signed up to a club before they play.  Club registration remains open for the whole of the season.

IF A NEW PLAYER HAS NOT REGISTERED FOR A CLUB ON THE FORUM, BY 8PM ON A MATCH DAY, THEY WILL NOT BE ELIGIBLE TO EARN POINTS FOR THEIR CLUB IN THAT WEEK. NO EXCEPTIONS WILL BE MADE.


Feel free to use this thread to post updates on the night, suck outs, etc.
Title: Re: APAT Central Division, Round 9
Post by: SirPercival on May 19, 2009, 12:36:36 PM
I will be missing both this event and the next one due to being on holiday in the USA/Caribbean.

I have asked Wayne "noseyp" Parker to take on the role as vice-captain which he has kindly accepted. Wayne will keep track of player points etc whilst I am away as well as updating the forum if he has the time.

Good luck to all Leeds players (and remember Wayne, we were top when I was in charge!)
Title: Re: APAT Central Division, Round 9
Post by: nosey-p on May 19, 2009, 13:04:48 PM
and we will be top when you come back  ;)
Title: Re: APAT Central Division, Round 9
Post by: AMRN on May 19, 2009, 13:16:28 PM
Have a great holiday Stuart. I"m sure the Leeds team will miss your zero point contributions :)
Title: Re: APAT Central Division, Round 9
Post by: nosey-p on May 24, 2009, 19:52:10 PM
6 players at 7.50
Title: Re: APAT Central Division, Round 9
Post by: nosey-p on May 24, 2009, 19:57:03 PM
MachacekMartin
Mikeyboy9361
noseyP
oooblio
TheOneUp
wwalwyb1
Title: Re: APAT Central Division, Round 9
Post by: Mikeyboy9361 on May 24, 2009, 20:31:22 PM
Raise 4 x bb UG, skipper for the day re raises me all in from the button!! So as it was Wayne i laid down my Jacks. Wayne shows Qs, nice hand, what a lay down!!
Title: Re: APAT Central Division, Round 9
Post by: nosey-p on May 24, 2009, 20:35:38 PM

Raise 4 x bb UG, skipper for the day re raises me all in from the button!! So as it was Wayne i laid down my Jacks. Wayne shows Qs, nice hand, what a lay down!!


would not play against a team mate without a hand, so showed you the QQ so you know am not at it
Title: Re: APAT Central Division, Round 9
Post by: nosey-p on May 24, 2009, 20:36:39 PM
and stop calling me vice skip  :D
Title: Re: APAT Central Division, Round 9
Post by: nosey-p on May 24, 2009, 21:06:23 PM
mikeboy    4th
noseyP     17th  
walwyn1   23rd
ooblio      24th  
MachacekMartin   31st
TheOneUp  33rd


38 left
Title: Re: APAT Central Division, Round 9
Post by: Mikeyboy9361 on May 24, 2009, 21:27:38 PM
3 in the top ten..... go boys
Title: Re: APAT Central Division, Round 9
Post by: nosey-p on May 24, 2009, 21:30:59 PM
4 in top 11
Title: Re: APAT Central Division, Round 9
Post by: nosey-p on May 24, 2009, 21:51:33 PM
5 in top 15

28 left
Title: Re: APAT Central Division, Round 9
Post by: nosey-p on May 24, 2009, 21:52:30 PM
make that 6 in top 15
Title: Re: APAT Central Division, Round 9
Post by: nosey-p on May 24, 2009, 22:08:50 PM
21 left we have 6

6th
12th
13th
14th
15th
16th
Title: Re: APAT Central Division, Round 9
Post by: nosey-p on May 24, 2009, 22:16:27 PM
kevin what are you doing !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
calling with kQ  

i had AA Kevin calls my raies i go all in on flop Kevin with 1 pair calls, dont you know this is a team event?

hits is second pair
Title: Re: APAT Central Division, Round 9
Post by: nosey-p on May 24, 2009, 22:25:57 PM
noseyP out 21st

5 left put of 16
Title: Re: APAT Central Division, Round 9
Post by: nosey-p on May 24, 2009, 22:27:26 PM
Manchester have 4
Title: Re: APAT Central Division, Round 9
Post by: nosey-p on May 24, 2009, 22:43:24 PM
MachacekMartin out in 12th

well played
Title: Re: APAT Central Division, Round 9
Post by: nosey-p on May 24, 2009, 22:46:44 PM
4 on the FT

need to beet Manchester
Title: Re: APAT Central Division, Round 9
Post by: nosey-p on May 24, 2009, 22:48:12 PM
oobliuo 10th 1pt
Title: Re: APAT Central Division, Round 9
Post by: Mikeyboy9361 on May 24, 2009, 23:32:07 PM
3 points to us!!!
Title: Re: APAT Central Division, Round 9
Post by: nosey-p on May 25, 2009, 08:03:13 AM
Well dun all

6 played last night 4 made the FT
Title: Re: APAT Central Division, Round 9
Post by: Mikeyboy9361 on May 25, 2009, 09:50:22 AM
Was a brilliant effort from us! 4 on the FT, I went out 7th, when I called an all in with AQ, came up against Qs and didnt improve. Was a cagey final table with One Up and Bang 63 way out in front and the rest of us all about level, but with me donating my chips to Sheffield it was then a 3 horse race. Don"t know who won, hope it was one of our guys.
Title: Re: APAT Central Division, Round 9
Post by: HaworthBantam on May 25, 2009, 10:34:22 AM

Mr Mod, ThinkerJE, James Edwards won, gaining a point for Walsall.

I shall be updating the tables very shortly.......
Title: Re: APAT Central Division, Round 9
Post by: TheOneUp on May 25, 2009, 20:42:00 PM
Sorry NoseyP I didn"t interpret your allin correctly.  I would have been happy for you to win the hand and use the chips to gain some points for us.
Title: Re: APAT Central Division, Round 9
Post by: nosey-p on May 26, 2009, 08:31:30 AM
Kevin, sorry if I came across a bit bitter. We won the three points which is the main goal, well played for getting your 4th place.
If you had looked earlier in the thread you would have seen that I did a similar thing to Mikeyboy. As we go into the second half of the league we need to know how our team mates play.

The main thing is we are now 4 pts clear  
Title: Re: APAT Central Division, Round 9
Post by: mattisks on May 26, 2009, 20:25:41 PM
hey guys,

nice performance of our team!

Ooblio made final table which with his chipstack which was just great thing to achieve.

I have to say sorry to Mike but I had rockets and did not learn how to fold them down yet. Also with my chipstack it should"ve be pretty stupid from me. I didn"t felt comfortable at that point  and trying to slowplay them on ya might hurt much more.. :-\

I have also made mistake b4 final table calling 4BB raise with snowman for half of my stack and then simply picked first playable hand which was 4s and ran into Jacks..  :-[ Hopefully I will play better next week.

once again it was great experience and I am looking forward to next round

go Leeds!


7s :2h:
Title: Re: APAT Central Division, Round 9
Post by: Mikeyboy9361 on May 26, 2009, 20:53:55 PM
You,ve got to play your strong hands strong, and hope that your team mates realise it and get out of the way!!
Title: Re: APAT Central Division, Round 9
Post by: nosey-p on May 27, 2009, 08:31:15 AM

You,ve got to play your strong hands strong, and hope that your team mates realise it and get out of the way!!


;)
Title: Re: APAT Central Division, Round 9
Post by: mattisks on May 27, 2009, 17:50:03 PM

You,ve got to play your strong hands strong, and hope that your team mates realise it and get out of the way!!


seems like everything was fine then :-) But your "Thank You Team Mate" seemed bit angry to me at that moment  ::)


7s :2h:
Title: Re: APAT Central Division, Round 9
Post by: Mikeyboy9361 on May 27, 2009, 18:57:06 PM
Nah, only jesting. You have to play for yourself first and the team second, well thats the official line anyway! ;)
Title: Re: APAT Central Division, Round 9
Post by: nosey-p on May 28, 2009, 08:22:17 AM

Nah, only jesting. You have to play for yourself first and the team second, well thats the official line anyway! ;)


It's a CLUB league so it should be Team first Individual second
Title: Re: APAT Central Division, Round 9
Post by: Mikeyboy9361 on May 28, 2009, 09:34:35 AM
That is very tricky in poker Wayne. I have played team sport all my life, particularly rugby, football and cricket. Now when I get 5 wickets and fifty in the same game but lose I have done the best for me and the team, but if the team lose then I am gutted, but I am playing against the OPPOSITION. In poker it is weird, we want Leeds to win and we want our team mates to do well, but there we are sat at the table playing against our TEAMMATES !! So what do we do we have to play strong otherwise we are accused of playing soft?!
I don"t know how others are playing these games, but I am always aware who my team mates are, and where as i wont play them soft, I may not go to war against them with a marginal hand, as I say tricky. But it seema to be working cos we are "top top top top top o the league"  :D
Title: Re: APAT Central Division, Round 9
Post by: nosey-p on May 28, 2009, 12:30:06 PM
Mike, would you deliberately run a team mate out? No. So would you be in a HU pot were you can knock one of your team mates out? It's not soft play it's just knowing who your club members are.

That's why I came over the top with the Queens this week; I did not want to play against you. If it were just a normal MTT I would have played the hand differently. Same with the Aces against Kevin, just that he did not know what I was doing. But he played against a team mate HU when they were no need to do so.    

Take the match where you won.  The only way that Leeds was going to win was to knock one of the B'ham players out. I got my chips in against one of them which you also came into the pot knowing that if you won the pot then I would be out giving the win to B'ham, did you realise this at the time?

When we have qualified with 5 games left then we can have some fun  ;D  
Title: Re: APAT Central Division, Round 9
Post by: AMRN on May 28, 2009, 12:50:25 PM
So..... you find yourself in a spot on the final table in week 20 where you cannot afford to knock out your team mate.... if you do knock him out, you lose the league and fail to qualify for the final. Your team mate raises all in preflop - everyone folds to you in the big blind, and you have AA.     If you do call and win the hand, you lose the league. If you fold the nuts it is soft play (and according to standard poker rules, would be cheating - but who would know?!). So.... would ya call?
Title: Re: APAT Central Division, Round 9
Post by: Mikeyboy9361 on May 28, 2009, 13:11:01 PM
In the one I won, I have to admit, I wasn"t 100% sure how the points system worked re the team situation, and if I had have realised the situation then I probably would have played the hand differently. All you can do is be aware of who your team mates are and how they play when playing against team mates, and adjust your game accordingly. I still think it is not clear cut, but I will always support the team, the aim is to make sure Leeds finish top.
Title: Re: APAT Central Division, Round 9
Post by: deanp27 on May 28, 2009, 13:13:58 PM
i think it is very difficult to play as a team without doing something unethical. I do try to avoid bad spots vs team mates if possible and may not trap etc that i may do against others - just think you need to be careful.

I don"t think its that important in early stages but of course in last 20 it may become a factor.

I think if you do the best for yourself then you are doing your team a favour. Also remember individual points are important.

just my 2p
Title: Re: APAT Central Division, Round 9
Post by: nosey-p on May 28, 2009, 13:30:26 PM

So..... you find yourself in a spot on the final table in week 20 where you cannot afford to knock out your team mate.... if you do knock him out, you lose the league and fail to qualify for the final. Your team mate raises all in preflop - everyone folds to you in the big blind, and you have AA.     If you do call and win the hand, you lose the league. If you fold the nuts it is soft play (and according to standard poker rules, would be cheating - but who would know?!). So.... would ya call?


I have folded aces several times when on the bubble of a MTT or in an satellite. Is this soft play?
Title: Re: APAT Central Division, Round 9
Post by: AMRN on May 28, 2009, 15:29:30 PM


So..... you find yourself in a spot on the final table in week 20 where you cannot afford to knock out your team mate.... if you do knock him out, you lose the league and fail to qualify for the final. Your team mate raises all in preflop - everyone folds to you in the big blind, and you have AA.     If you do call and win the hand, you lose the league. If you fold the nuts it is soft play (and according to standard poker rules, would be cheating - but who would know?!). So.... would ya call?


I have folded aces several times when on the bubble of a MTT or in an satellite. Is this soft play?


No of course it isn"t - that"s about self preservation (the "self" bit being the important bit). In the scenario I outlined, self preservation isn"t the consideration - it"s team consideration. Perhaps if I had said that the team memeber who shoved was the short stack, and you had the monster chip lead with your AA..... would you fold?
Title: Re: APAT Central Division, Round 9
Post by: mattisks on May 31, 2009, 04:27:12 AM
interesting discussion :-)

I felt sometimes bad in tournament.. I did some moves against my team mates but the problem was.. The only playable hands I got just when they were in.. (blinds or hand) For whatever it is I feel important for a team when I remain ALIVE trying to break through to the final table. So I have to keep in mind to have healthy stack.. In this sense I"ve failed anyway near the "bubble" and those chips I have "stealt" from my team mates might have been of any use for them.

But should"ve I know how I am goin to finish at the moment of "steal"?  ???

Anyway. Today is ours! We"re goin to win AGAIN! Go Leeds!


7s :2h:
Title: Re: APAT Central Division, Round 9
Post by: mattisks on June 01, 2009, 00:34:20 AM
aaah. Found out. We play in a week xD Didn"t know its bi-weekly thing.. Tho I am glad I will have to wait one week more. Finished 6th today in freeroll so I will have some bullets for league  8)

Tho I am still not happy with my game even tho to get to 6th didn"t take any luck. I got lucky once there and then picked one unlucky spot but.. I think I shoulda play better some hands based on my read.. Let"s hope I will get sixth next week behind 5 Leeds boys  ;D

:3d: :3c:
Title: Re: APAT Central Division, Round 9
Post by: nosey-p on June 01, 2009, 12:05:48 PM
Yes Martin it's every two weeks. Did you not get an email to remind you?
Title: Re: APAT Central Division, Round 9
Post by: deanp27 on June 02, 2009, 11:15:47 AM
siiiigghhh - can"t make the next one either  >:(