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Title: Registering for APAT on day of play?
Post by: IHASTHENUTS on September 21, 2007, 09:19:22 AM
When are the casinos gonna start registering, wont you get hundreds of regs just registering before us?

Advice please.
Ash.
Title: Re: Registering for APAT on day of play?
Post by: kinboshi on September 21, 2007, 10:07:53 AM
If the regional events are registration on the day - that brings up a few questions:


Title: Re: Registering for APAT on day of play?
Post by: Jon MW on September 21, 2007, 10:47:38 AM
Nice use of bullet points Kin :)
Title: Re: Registering for APAT on day of play?
Post by: kinboshi on September 21, 2007, 12:06:37 PM
No bloody numbered list option, otherwise I"d have used that....
Title: Re: Registering for APAT on day of play?
Post by: mancdan on September 21, 2007, 14:03:04 PM
I am wondering the same thing about this too.

Is it basically first come first served??
Title: Re: Registering for APAT on day of play?
Post by: busman on September 21, 2007, 17:20:44 PM
I know at the Gala Edinburgh, they only have space for a total of 150 players but have been known to close registration short of that number due to the lack of dealers  :"( as they have to get dealers from other areas/casinos to cover the bigger tourneys.  if it is a registration on day option, the queue will be down princess street and thats a couple of miles away. :o
Title: Re: Registering for APAT on day of play?
Post by: Waz1892 on September 21, 2007, 17:57:39 PM
oops...I have asked the very same question on the other topic.....think this one certainly needs clearing up..

I"m not sure I like the idea of a mass queue...in fact not finishing this message am off to queue now......
Title: Re: Registering for APAT on day of play?
Post by: nosey-p on September 21, 2007, 19:36:02 PM
Do we think that all the venues will be sold out?
With 9 x 80 places there's a good chance that some may not sell out but some could be sold three times over. It seems that the Manchester one keeps cropping up. Is it possible to put more tournaments on in the hot spots (Saturday / Sunday) and take them away from the cold spots? When or if some places don't sell.

Are or we willing to make a 3 hour drive for a £20 game?

It's a shame that you cannot buy your seat in advance. So if you could not get into your local game you can try further afield.      
Title: Re: Registering for APAT on day of play?
Post by: Jon MW on September 21, 2007, 19:47:27 PM

Do we think that all the venues will be sold out?
...


Depends how popular the venues are.

I"m sure the regulars at the venues will soon be interested in playing the APAt regional events even if they"ve never heard of APAt before.
Title: Re: Registering for APAT on day of play?
Post by: nosey-p on September 21, 2007, 20:00:44 PM
Will there be an announcement on when the registration opens or will we have to contact the casinos directly? I take it that when the doors open you can register?  
Title: Re: Registering for APAT on day of play?
Post by: hutchylad on September 21, 2007, 23:39:26 PM
Well I will be looking to play in Edinburgh, so any info on registration will be much appreciated!
Title: Re: Registering for APAT on day of play?
Post by: APAT on September 23, 2007, 13:43:41 PM
Hi everyone,

Much as I hate to say it, it is difficult to understand the likely demand at the 14 Regional venues until we have had one or two events. 

Logistically, it is not feasible for APAT or the casinos to manage 14 player lists so this does put us in a first come, first served situation.  While I think we would all rather this was not the case, until APAT oll out "local" venues, it is a fact that some members will live closer to the Regional venues than others.

Each venue will have an entry spreadsheet, whereby players can enter their name in the order that they enter the tournament, meaning those turning up before the event will be able to register in advance.  We will post the opening times for each casino before the first Regional weekend.


Title: Re: Registering for APAT on day of play?
Post by: RioRodent on September 23, 2007, 14:51:40 PM

Each venue will have an entry spreadsheet, whereby players can enter their name in the order that they enter the tournament, meaning those turning up before the event will be able to register in advance. 



Title: Re: Registering for APAT on day of play?
Post by: APAT on September 23, 2007, 15:43:01 PM
As stated elsewhere Alan, seats will be allocated on the day.  The list will ensure that players don"t show up right before play starts and "barge" their way into the events.  We will try to produce as much detail about the process as possible, prior to the first round of Regional events on October 6th.
Title: Re: Registering for APAT on day of play?
Post by: RioRodent on September 23, 2007, 16:09:27 PM

As stated elsewhere Alan, seats will be allocated on the day.  The list will ensure that players don"t show up right before play starts and "barge" their way into the events.  We will try to produce as much detail about the process as possible, prior to the first round of Regional events on October 6th.


That"s what I tought, however this -


meaning those turning up before the event will be able to register in advance.


kind of suggested (to me anyway) that it would be possible to enter prior to the day of the tournament.
Title: Re: Registering for APAT on day of play?
Post by: inthepink on September 24, 2007, 15:48:57 PM
Are we to assume that unless we live in town or city of casino we have no chance of playing,as it is a bit much to expect people to drive  for hours on off chance of getting a seat. Am a newbie, but didnt i read in a past poker player issue that the demand was so great in season 1 that you applied in advance and then had a draw to see who played, which seems a fairer way of doing it
Title: Re: Registering for APAT on day of play?
Post by: Jon MW on September 24, 2007, 15:52:13 PM
The regional tournaments will have registration on the day.

I still haven"t seen any response to the query about whether we will be able to register by phone.

But if you can"t then you only have to be there when the casino opens and (unless I"m missing something) this will mean that you have as much chance as any local of registering.
Title: Re: Registering for APAT on day of play?
Post by: inthepink on September 24, 2007, 16:01:36 PM
Thats the point i am making, for the locals who dont make it its only a bus ride home, but for others could be 2-3 hour journey,cant see many people taking the risk as am sure the demand is going to be great and with only 80 spaces
Title: Re: Registering for APAT on day of play?
Post by: kinboshi on September 24, 2007, 16:16:45 PM
I can"t imagine that there"ll be a queue of 80 people outside the door of the casino at midday waiting to put their name"s down for the APAT tournament.

It"s going to be a bit of a pain for those that have to travel, but there"s no way round that.  There were teething problems in Season 1, and some of those were ironed out (some are still being sorted), and there"ll be issues that crop up during Season 2.  Even with these difficulties - it"ll be better than what was offered pre-APAT.

I"d imagine that the demand at some venues will be larger than others.  It wouldn"t surprise me if a few found it easy to fill the 80 places, whilst others get nowhere near that figure.


Title: Re: Registering for APAT on day of play?
Post by: inthepink on September 24, 2007, 16:25:36 PM
Does anyone know whats happening with dusk till dawn, with regionals nearly upon us, as is my nearest casino, about 70 miles
Title: Re: Registering for APAT on day of play?
Post by: kinboshi on September 24, 2007, 16:27:25 PM
The hearing started today.  Up to the magistrates to decide.

You can read all about it here: http://blondepoker.com/forum/index.php?topic=26627.0

It"ll be a travesty if they don"t get the nod.  DTD will be my venue of choice as well for APAT (and a lot more!).
Title: Re: Registering for APAT on day of play?
Post by: FlyingPig73 on September 24, 2007, 21:06:29 PM

The regional tournaments will have registration on the day.

I still haven"t seen any response to the query about whether we will be able to register by phone.

But if you can"t then you only have to be there when the casino opens and (unless I"m missing something) this will mean that you have as much chance as any local of registering.


Jon, I think there will be a definitive answer to this shorlty. I am not sure if it will be down to the individual casino, or if one casino will and another won"t that will cause a disparity and may prove unfair on other members in other areas where this is not available.

I am sure Des will pick up on this and let us know in due course.
Title: Re: Registering for APAT on day of play?
Post by: PLBrael on September 24, 2007, 21:20:10 PM
Before I add to this thread can I just day that I think APAT exists and that they"re putting the time and effort into organising tournaments like this. Really looking forward to the first game... assuming I can get a seat!  ;)

For me, it"s a 4 hour round trip. To get there and not get to play would be a huge disappointment as I"ve had to talk nicely to my wife so that I can go!  :D My usual port of call on a Saturday afternoon would be the footie and I"m missing this to go to Edinburgh. If I"m stuck there at 2.30pm then I"ve no chance of getting to the game as a fall back. I"m sure there"ll be others in the same position and who may have even pulled strings at work to get away for this. Setting something up to allow registration at least the day before would be a great help.

One last point... game starts sharp at 2.30pm? Casino doesn"t open until 3pm??  ??? Or has some arrangement been reached??
Title: Re: Registering for APAT on day of play?
Post by: APAT on September 24, 2007, 21:48:16 PM
There will be additional detail around Regional event timings coming out early next week. 

This is being pulled together with the casinos as we speak. 

APAT is pushing for additional methods of entry, however, while APAT manages the entry process for each National event, logistically it would be an impossible task for us to manage 14 player lists.  At every event, players drop out and new ones are added throughout the week running up to the event.  I can"t imagine how 14 events would be managed without having a couple of paid employees managing the flow. 

So as far as APAT is concerned, our preference would be for members to be able to a) phone the venue directly b) call into the venue before the event and book that way.  However, to do this we need the venues to be able to manage these player lists in advance of the event, and that is a challenge as they do not currently take entries as we would like them to.  However, there is one other entry method that I believe would work, that I am investigating. 

Again, if we are not able to deliver an ideal solution for leg 1, that does not mean that we will stop trying to have the most player friendly process implemented for the following leg.
Title: Re: Registering for APAT on day of play?
Post by: mancdan on September 25, 2007, 09:23:27 AM
All sounds good to me. ;D

Will watch this space for further details.
Title: Re: Registering for APAT on day of play?
Post by: clynd99 on September 25, 2007, 14:20:19 PM
Im fully expecting a new Harry Potter book-style of camping outside casinos days in advance only for people to be dissappointed and resort to rioting.
Title: Re: Registering for APAT on day of play?
Post by: Bodddders on September 25, 2007, 17:30:07 PM
There are 1080 seats available (13 Regionals X 80 seats) (1160 when DTD comes onboard) for each live qualifying round into the national events. Based on how long it took to sell the 300 seats for the recent European Open at Luton (nearly 24 hours I believe) shouldn"t there be enough to go around. There are just under 1400 forum members and I"m sure not all of them are able or wanting to play in these events.
Of course some venues will be more popular than others so unless a system to allow pre-booking is introduced, we will just have to to "suck it and see" I guess.
Title: Re: Registering for APAT on day of play?
Post by: Jon MW on September 25, 2007, 19:54:55 PM

There are 1080 seats available (13 Regionals X 80 seats) (1160 when DTD comes onboard) for each live qualifying round into the national events. Based on how long it took to sell the 300 seats for the recent European Open at Luton (nearly 24 hours I believe) shouldn"t there be enough to go around. There are just under 1400 forum members and I"m sure not all of them are able or wanting to play in these events.
Of course some venues will be more popular than others so unless a system to allow pre-booking is introduced, we will just have to to "suck it and see" I guess.


The European Open at Luton isn"t a good comparison as that was very late notice for over the Bank Holiday weekend
Title: Re: Registering for APAT on day of play?
Post by: duncthehat on September 26, 2007, 01:39:46 AM
I really feel we are worrying too much.

We have 200 odd players playing online trying to qualify and that is in the luxury of their own home.

Most of the venues i bet will be around the 30/40 mark only.

Even say Manchester and London i reckon will be below 80.
Title: Re: Registering for APAT on day of play?
Post by: Ivydrive on September 26, 2007, 05:09:18 AM
Haven"t played live before as am a relatively new member... looking forward to hopefully playing the regional dates at Cardiff. With no mention of cardiff im hoping this is one of the "quieter" venues  :)

Probably a silly question but how do you prove you"re an APAT member upon sign on?

Also, off topic i know, but aside from the cash prizes and points for top 9, do you earn the opportunity to buy in to the national £75 event or do you actually win entry?

Looks excellent regardless! Can"t wait! I want a medal :)

Many thanks.
Matt
Title: Re: Registering for APAT on day of play?
Post by: Ivydrive on September 26, 2007, 05:22:12 AM
just found the answer on another thread to my first question. still not sure about the seat though...
Title: Re: Registering for APAT on day of play?
Post by: FlyingPig73 on September 26, 2007, 11:23:33 AM
My understanding of it is, you get prize money split up as per normal if you finish in the top 10%. You are also guatanteed a seat in the National tournament if you finish in the top 10%. If you finish in the top 3, you get a medal.

My guess is you would pay for the seat in the national (assuming you finish in the top 10%) via a payment link setup on the APAT website.
Title: Re: Registering for APAT on day of play?
Post by: Jon MW on September 26, 2007, 11:32:23 AM

My understanding of it is, you get prize money split up as per normal if you finish in the top 10%. You are also guatanteed a seat in the National tournament if you finish in the top 10%. If you finish in the top 3, you get a medal.

My guess is you would pay for the seat in the national (assuming you finish in the top 10%) via a payment link setup on the APAT website.


are you sure?


The Regional events are acting as satellites into the National events.  the 10% times £75 will come from the prize pool.  The remainder of the prize pool will be awarded to the top 10% of finishers as prize money.
Title: Re: Registering for APAT on day of play?
Post by: FlyingPig73 on September 26, 2007, 11:47:22 AM
John, That is what I was alluding to. Sorry if it never came across like that.

Like the online satelites, if you finish in the top 10% you are guaranteed £75 (the entry fee) at least, and the extra money over will be split up via some arrangement. You will still have to pay for the seat via payment from the APAT site, I think.
Title: Re: Registering for APAT on day of play?
Post by: Jon MW on September 26, 2007, 12:03:40 PM
Thanks for the clarification - to me it sounded like your first post suggested that the National seat didn"t come out of the prize pool
Title: Re: Registering for APAT on day of play?
Post by: texfitz on September 27, 2007, 10:25:35 AM
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Like the online satelites, if you finish in the top 10% you are guaranteed £75 (the entry fee) at least, and the extra money over will be split up via some arrangement. You will still have to pay for the seat via payment from the APAT site, I think.


I think you might find that if you do qualify for National event. you are automatically entered therefore no payment to be made   ???
Title: Re: Registering for APAT on day of play?
Post by: Jon MW on September 27, 2007, 11:11:05 AM

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Like the online satelites, if you finish in the top 10% you are guaranteed £75 (the entry fee) at least, and the extra money over will be split up via some arrangement. You will still have to pay for the seat via payment from the APAT site, I think.


I think you might find that if you do qualify for National event. you are automatically entered therefore no payment to be made   ???


See, I"m not the only one you managed to confuse
Title: Re: Registering for APAT on day of play?
Post by: FlyingPig73 on September 27, 2007, 13:09:17 PM
I am only going off the way things where done in the previous satelites.

If you qualified in the online sats, you where given the money in your account. Then you followed the payment link that was setup. This means that the money never goes to a third party. I guess it would be the same for the live ones. The Grosvenor will have your money, and you are then relying on them transferring it to the APAT coffers. It makes sense for me for the casino to pay you out, and then you put it in your bank account and then pay onlinie direct to the APAT.

Sorry if I am wrong, which I could well be, and sorry for any confusion caused. I do know an announcement will be made soon.
Title: Re: Registering for APAT on day of play?
Post by: HaworthBantam on September 27, 2007, 13:34:05 PM
Jimmy, I"m a little confused by this as well.

I was under the impression that the top 8 in the sats would gain automatic entry with the £75 entry being paid directly from the casino to APAT's coffers. The balance of the entry money (£20x80 - £75x8) then being paid out directly to those deemed "in the money".

However, your explanation of what happens with the on-line sats also makes sense.

Probably best if we wait for the announcement.....

Ian
Title: Re: Registering for APAT on day of play?
Post by: Paulie_D on September 27, 2007, 14:12:14 PM

I was under the impression that the top 8 in the sats would gain automatic entry with the £75 entry being paid directly from the casino to APAT's coffers. The balance of the entry money (£20x80 - £75x8) then being paid out directly to those


I"m sure that the Casino wouldn"t be permitted to keep any money (even temporarily) especially as the qualifying Regional casino and the National Casino won"t be the same (albeit part of the same group).

You don"t win a seat as such, you win a guarantee of a seat....soooo...my guess is that you will be paid out in full but the casino will take your name, pass it on to APAT who will then contact you regarding whether you want the seat and supply you with a payment link if required.

Or it"ll be something else entirely... ;D
Title: Re: Registering for APAT on day of play?
Post by: kinboshi on September 27, 2007, 15:23:52 PM


I was under the impression that the top 8 in the sats would gain automatic entry with the £75 entry being paid directly from the casino to APAT's coffers. The balance of the entry money (£20x80 - £75x8) then being paid out directly to those


I"m sure that the Casino wouldn"t be permitted to keep any money (even temporarily) especially as the qualifying Regional casino and the National Casino won"t be the same (albeit part of the same group).

You don"t win a seat as such, you win a guarantee of a seat....soooo...my guess is that you will be paid out in full but the casino will take your name, pass it on to APAT who will then contact you regarding whether you want the seat and supply you with a payment link if required.


Agreed.  That makes the most sense and is the easiest to implement.

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Or it"ll be something else entirely... ;D


That"s quite possible too!
Title: Re: Registering for APAT on day of play?
Post by: swordfish on September 27, 2007, 16:09:27 PM
IIRC, when the live satellite for the Scottish Championship took place, the casino did indeed keep the £75 entry fee and the remainder was dished out to the qualifiers.  So the casino passed the entry fees to APAT, and the qualifiers did not have to pay.
Title: Regional Qualifier / National Seat: Payment
Post by: Paulie_D on September 27, 2007, 16:36:06 PM

IIRC, when the live satellite for the Scottish Championship took place, the casino did indeed keep the £75 entry fee and the remainder was dished out to the qualifiers.  So the casino passed the entry fees to APAT, and the qualifiers did not have to pay.


But was this played at the same venue as the Scottish Championship?

Either way..and I"m sure we"ll find out in due course, I"d prefer to make the payment PERSONALLY, just in case plans change.
Title: Re: Registering for APAT on day of play?
Post by: mancdan on September 27, 2007, 16:40:51 PM
Why don"t we all just sit patiently and wait for the official line, that would be easier than predicting and worrying about registering etc wouldn"t it??  ::)

It would be a bit like waiting for the right cards  :as: ah before you go all in ;D
Title: Re: Registering for APAT on day of play?
Post by: nosey-p on September 27, 2007, 16:48:41 PM

Why don"t we all just sit patiently and wait for the official line, that would be easier than predicting and worrying about registering etc wouldn"t it??  ::)

It would be a bit like waiting for the right cards  :as: ah before you go all in ;D


That"s boring  ;D
Title: Re: Registering for APAT on day of play?
Post by: Jon MW on September 27, 2007, 16:53:10 PM


Why don"t we all just sit patiently and wait for the official line, that would be easier than predicting and worrying about registering etc wouldn"t it??  ::)

It would be a bit like waiting for the right cards  :as: ah before you go all in ;D


That"s boring  ;D


Leave that to the Rocks - let"s stick with a bit of Scandie style speculation instead :)

(I"m not pushing the metaphor too far there am I?)
Title: Re: Registering for APAT on day of play?
Post by: mancdan on September 27, 2007, 16:56:39 PM
Whats the Rocks Jon MW??? ??? ???
Title: Re: Registering for APAT on day of play?
Post by: kinboshi on September 28, 2007, 09:13:00 AM

Whats the Rocks Jon MW??? ??? ???


That"ll be me.
Title: Re: Registering for APAT on day of play?
Post by: Jon MW on September 28, 2007, 09:33:04 AM


Whats the Rocks Jon MW??? ??? ???


That"ll be me.


Me too actually - I only ever bet when I"m dealt pocket Aces

It"s weird how many of them I get though :)
Title: Re: Registering for APAT on day of play?
Post by: kinboshi on September 28, 2007, 09:41:22 AM



Whats the Rocks Jon MW??? ??? ???


That"ll be me.


Me too actually - I only ever bet when I"m dealt pocket Aces

It"s weird how many of them I get though :)


Me too.  I sometimes play KK as well though.  But they have to be soooted.
Title: Re: Registering for APAT on day of play?
Post by: HaworthBantam on September 28, 2007, 10:36:15 AM




Whats the Rocks Jon MW??? ??? ???


That"ll be me.


Me too actually - I only ever bet when I"m dealt pocket Aces

It"s weird how many of them I get though :)


Me too.  I sometimes play KK as well though.  But they have to be soooted.


It"s quite amazing how many of us never bluff.
Title: Re: Registering for APAT on day of play?
Post by: kinboshi on September 28, 2007, 10:38:49 AM





Whats the Rocks Jon MW??? ??? ???


That"ll be me.


Me too actually - I only ever bet when I"m dealt pocket Aces

It"s weird how many of them I get though :)


Me too.  I sometimes play KK as well though.  But they have to be soooted.


It"s quite amazing how many of us never bluff.


Oh I do bluff.  Sometimes I raise out of position with AK (offsooot!).
Title: Re: Registering for APAT on day of play?
Post by: celticriver on September 28, 2007, 22:32:40 PM
Guys, Maybury casino in Endinburgh has only allocated 80 seats for the first regional am I the only one thinknig this will not be enough?  Oh they can accomadate 130 why are we not going for the full boona. CELTICRIVER. Oh Hi Hannea.
Title: Re: Registering for APAT on day of play?
Post by: FlyingPig73 on September 28, 2007, 22:43:15 PM

Guys, Maybury casino in Endinburgh has only allocated 80 seats for the first regional am I the only one thinknig this will not be enough?  Oh they can accomadate 130 why are we not going for the full boona. CELTICRIVER. Oh Hi Hannea.


This is to do with the amount of seats allocated for the nationals. The top 10% are going through to the nationals, and for every 10 seats in the regionals there wll be the need for 1 extra seat in the National. As there is only limited amount of seats in the nationals, the APAT team have allocated a maximum of 80 per event.

There will then be the chance for 3 ways to get into the national events. Live sat, online sat, and the clickfest.
Title: Re: Registering for APAT on day of play?
Post by: busman on October 01, 2007, 19:56:19 PM

Guys, Maybury casino in Endinburgh has only allocated 80 seats for the first regional am I the only one thinknig this will not be enough?  Oh they can accomadate 130 why are we not going for the full boona. CELTICRIVER. Oh Hi Hannea.


guaranteed thats not enough but its the quota for the venue,

any idea as to what time theyre opening thier doors on sat??
Title: Re: Registering for APAT on day of play?
Post by: FTMLS on October 02, 2007, 18:45:26 PM
I rang the Grosvenor in Newcastle last night ... apparently they only found out about the tourney yesterday ... are not opening until 2.00pm on Saturday and don"t expect it to be busy.

I"m getting a little worried. If they don"t open til 2.00 and then players have to join  and register .. there"s no way it can start at 2.30. Has anyone else thought about going to Newcastle to play .. or need I not worry cos there"ll only be me??

:o ???
Title: Re: Registering for APAT on day of play?
Post by: PLBrael on October 02, 2007, 18:49:02 PM
Called the Gala in Edinburgh... they"re opening at 1pm. Will need a passport or a driving licence to join the casino.
Title: Re: Registering for APAT on day of play?
Post by: kinboshi on October 02, 2007, 19:00:43 PM

I rang the Grosvenor in Newcastle last night ... apparently they only found out about the tourney yesterday ... are not opening until 2.00pm on Saturday and don"t expect it to be busy.

I"m getting a little worried. If they don"t open til 2.00 and then players have to join  and register .. there"s no way it can start at 2.30. Has anyone else thought about going to Newcastle to play .. or need I not worry cos there"ll only be me??

:o ???


Maybe the person you spoke to only found out then - but they"ve known for a lot longer.

If they"re planning on starting at 2:30, they"ll be open long before 2.
Title: Re: Registering for APAT on day of play?
Post by: hutchylad on October 02, 2007, 19:09:41 PM

Called the Gala in Edinburgh... they"re opening at 1pm. Will need a passport or a driving licence to join the casino.


Cheers, saves me phoning ;D
Title: Re: Registering for APAT on day of play?
Post by: FTMLS on October 02, 2007, 19:20:50 PM
From what I was told last night (after they called me back cos no-one knew anything about an APAT tourney at first) ... the supervisor has been working in London .. so no-one knew about it until yesterday? (Strange!). I asked what time they were opening and they said 2 o"clock, no need to open any earlier cos Saturday afternoons are always quiet. I tried to explain it might not be quiet ... but was assured that opening at 2 for the tourney at 2.30 was fine .. cos they weren"t expecting many entries.

I know they SHOULD have known about this earlier Kinboshi ..... but it really does appear they didn"t.
Title: Re: Registering for APAT on day of play?
Post by: texfitz on October 02, 2007, 19:27:33 PM
me n missus planning turning up newcastle at 12.00, register then back out for couple hours, but if its not open till 2 we"ll turn up then.

I"ll fone the casino Friday night to confirm opening time and post on here
Title: Re: Registering for APAT on day of play?
Post by: tomo on October 02, 2007, 21:58:12 PM
so if the casino is open the day before does that mean that registration will open just after midnight or in the morning before the tourny as in 11am? canwe register over the phone on the day?
Title: Re: Registering for APAT on day of play?
Post by: APAT on October 02, 2007, 22:42:25 PM
Hi Tom, telephone registration is not an option for leg 1 of the Regionals, however we will be looking to add more registration options with the casinos after this weekend.  
Title: Re: Registering for APAT on day of play?
Post by: tomo on October 02, 2007, 22:57:00 PM
So what time does the registration open then?
Title: Re: Registering for APAT on day of play?
Post by: HaworthBantam on October 02, 2007, 23:01:54 PM
Registration will probably open at the same time, or shortly after, the casino opens.

I"m sure Des will be posting all the relevant details shortly.
Title: Re: Registering for APAT on day of play?
Post by: APAT on October 02, 2007, 23:03:00 PM
When we get that information from the casinos we will update here.  The expected opening times will be between midday and 1pm, but we are pulling together an accurate picture across all venues.  Players will be notified here before the weekend.
Title: Re: Registering for APAT on day of play?
Post by: tomo on October 02, 2007, 23:07:26 PM
ok cool.
Oh and by me joining this forum etc, that does qualify me to be able to play yes?
Title: Re: Registering for APAT on day of play?
Post by: APAT on October 02, 2007, 23:09:03 PM
You have been added to the members database, yes.
Title: Re: Registering for APAT on day of play?
Post by: SteveTheRake on October 03, 2007, 11:49:46 AM
I rang the Blackpool G Casino yesterday and they said they had not heard of the tourney, and thought I was talking about a rookie tourney they have on....

Anyone else planning to go Blackpool? Also if I take a friend with me, if they register with the casino will they be eligable to play?
Title: Re: Registering for APAT on day of play?
Post by: kinboshi on October 03, 2007, 12:25:04 PM
Are people who are calling the casinos speaking to the cardroom managers, or to someone on reception or maybe a supervisor?

I"ve called casinos in the past about their regular weekly tournaments, and the person I"ve spoken to has known nothing at all about it.  This is probably the same for APAT.  Internal communication doesn"t seem to be a strong point of casinos.  Neither is their external communication more often than not.
Title: Re: Registering for APAT on day of play?
Post by: HaworthBantam on October 03, 2007, 13:03:45 PM
A good point Daniel.

When I phoned Walsall last week, the person I spoke to on reception had no idea what I was talking about (could have been the accent though), but she put me through to the Manager who was well aware of the tourney.

I suspect that APAT and the Grosvenor chain will have everything in order come the weekend. However, we have to remember that this is the first time that Regional qualifiers have been arranged and there are bound to be teething problems running up to the first event.

We also have to remember that it"s a small number of people within APAT that are pulling this altogether, so it may take a little time to answer all the questions being asked.

Answers will be forthcoming though, I have every confidence.
Title: Re: Registering for APAT on day of play?
Post by: SteveTheRake on October 03, 2007, 14:15:37 PM
It was the receptionist + cash desk that I talked to, the card room manager is never available but they really do not have a clue about this tournament being on at all.
Title: Re: Registering for APAT on day of play?
Post by: Jon MW on October 03, 2007, 14:30:50 PM
This is the general problem I"ve found contacting a casino.

The reception don"t know anything about the card room, and the card room is never available to talk to.
Title: Re: Registering for APAT on day of play?
Post by: WiseOwl on October 03, 2007, 14:59:28 PM
I"m guessing that the Grosvenor casinos usually operate in isolation to each other and this could be their first time in working together on a co-ordinated event.  So I am not that surprised with the reaction that is being reported from the various sites and I am certain that as we progress through the season, these teething problems will be ironed out.

I went to the Vic yesterday to complete the membership paperwork and find out about registration and bought my seat while I was there.  
Title: Re: Registering for APAT on day of play?
Post by: SteveTheRake on October 03, 2007, 15:15:44 PM
To be honest I"m a little worried the Blackpool event might not be on, I"ve phoned a few times and have been met with a complete lack of knowledge of the event existing.

Last time they just gave me a web address and told me to check out a forum to see if it was on lol, aworldofpoker.com - but no mention there either. Also I believe Blackpool does not yet have a new card room manager according to those forums, possibly hence this confusion.

Thing is I don"t want to drive up there on the saturday, 45 min drive, only to be told it is not on when I could have made the Manchester one.
Title: Re: Registering for APAT on day of play?
Post by: Bodddders on October 03, 2007, 15:16:39 PM

I"m guessing that the Grosvenor casinos usually operate in isolation to each other and this could be their first time in working together on a co-ordinated event.  So I am not that surprised with the reaction that is being reported from the various sites and I am certain that as we progress through the season, these teething problems will be ironed out.

I went to the Vic yesterday to complete the membership paperwork and find out about registration and bought my seat while I was there.  


Fair play for getting a seat in advance, but for those of us not able to get to the casino before the event it seems a little unfair.
Again congrats on getting your seat, but surely this cant be right.
Title: Re: Registering for APAT on day of play?
Post by: Rich on October 03, 2007, 15:57:00 PM
Don"t think i"ll go the Vic if theyre already selling seats :-\ Makes it much more likely il just go to Brighton, is the Grosvenor near the Rendezous?
Title: Re: Registering for APAT on day of play?
Post by: WiseOwl on October 03, 2007, 16:00:57 PM


I"m guessing that the Grosvenor casinos usually operate in isolation to each other and this could be their first time in working together on a co-ordinated event.  So I am not that surprised with the reaction that is being reported from the various sites and I am certain that as we progress through the season, these teething problems will be ironed out.

I went to the Vic yesterday to complete the membership paperwork and find out about registration and bought my seat while I was there.  


Fair play for getting a seat in advance, but for those of us not able to get to the casino before the event it seems a little unfair.
Again congrats on getting your seat, but surely this cant be right.


It is wrong for one casino to sell seats in advance when the members have been told that they are only available on the day.  The point of the original post was to point out another of the inconsistencies that are being experienced with the first Regional event.  The task for APAT and the Grosvenor management going forward is to resolve them so that all members get the same excellent experience irrespective of which venue they attend.  I have faith in Des that this will happen.
Title: Re: Registering for APAT on day of play?
Post by: thacker on October 03, 2007, 17:29:16 PM
imo there is no fair way of registering.Even the old way wasnt fair if you have a slow broadband connection you would be last if 300 people went for it at once.ITs everyman for himself.Use your head to try and get a seat. ???
Title: Re: Registering for APAT on day of play?
Post by: nosey-p on October 03, 2007, 18:42:54 PM
Have I read that right! You have bought your seat for Saturday already? ???

They don't go on sale till Saturday (don't they?)

I can see me turning up at Manchester at 12.00 for when the doors open and not get a seat

Des can we have a ruling on this  
Title: Re: Registering for APAT on day of play?
Post by: Geo on October 03, 2007, 20:15:33 PM
I have just spoken to Gala maybury, they are taking bookings at the casino now (no phone bookings.) I would imagine therefore that there won"t be many seats left when it opens on Saturday.

There isn"t anything else on pokerwise on Saturday afternoon in edinburgh so I reckon a lot of the non-Apat locals will take advantage of the free membership to play in a value tourney.

Not complaining as such, but will make it more difficult for Apaters outside Edinburgh to get a seat.

Geo.
Title: Re: Registering for APAT on day of play?
Post by: Ken Jude on October 03, 2007, 20:28:08 PM
Perhaps you should have asked them why they have ignored the instructions Des has said they have been given.

Appalling behaviour by the casinos concerned.
Title: Re: Registering for APAT on day of play?
Post by: Geo on October 03, 2007, 20:31:32 PM
Was merely posting for the benefit of anyone intending playing Edinburgh. I do not know what has been agreed between Apat/Casinos so don"t feel it my place to comment.

Geo
Title: Re: Registering for APAT on day of play?
Post by: PLBrael on October 03, 2007, 21:45:00 PM

Was merely posting for the benefit of anyone intending playing Edinburgh. I do not know what has been agreed between Apat/Casinos so don"t feel it my place to comment.

Geo


Thanks for posting that Geo. I"m facing a 2 hour trip to Edinburgh on Saturday with zero prospect of being able to do anything about getting a seat in advance. At least if I know that they"ve been doing this then I can call on Friday and see what the state of play is before deciding whether or not to go.

APAT had warned that it may not go as expected for the first leg but they"ll see what improvements they can make for the second. Personally, I think it"s scandalous that the casinos are doing this leaving those in a position similar to mine little opportunity to participate.
Title: Re: Registering for APAT on day of play?
Post by: teaulc on October 03, 2007, 21:49:20 PM

Don"t think i"ll go the Vic if theyre already selling seats :-\ Makes it much more likely il just go to Brighton, is the Grosvenor near the Rendezous?

just got back from there and the casino is vitually opposite the pier,,,also manged to reg for saturdays game while i was there
Title: Re: Registering for APAT on day of play?
Post by: busman on October 03, 2007, 21:53:00 PM

I have just spoken to Gala maybury, they are taking bookings at the casino now (no phone bookings.) I would imagine therefore that there won"t be many seats left when it opens on Saturday.

There isn"t anything else on pokerwise on Saturday afternoon in edinburgh so I reckon a lot of the non-Apat locals will take advantage of the free membership to play in a value tourney.

Not complaining as such, but will make it more difficult for Apaters outside Edinburgh to get a seat.

Geo.



this is news to me Geo,  when i called yesterday to ask when they would be open for registration, they stated that it would be from 1pm on sat afternoon.

if they are already taking registrations i would not be surprised if there are no places left by end of play tonight as the regs down there will take the spaces quickly. 

i myself will be going tommorrow afternoon  7h 8h 9h th jh after work  ;D

will post after i get back to advise of position of registrations
Title: Re: Registering for APAT on day of play?
Post by: APAT on October 03, 2007, 21:53:26 PM
Sorry about this everyone.  The casinos should not have been selling seats early.  As stated in a different thread some days ago, APAT hoped to investigate whether the entry period could be extended, but it was agreed that seats would be sold "on the day" for this event - to give everyone an equal chance of securing a seat. 

I will be sending an email to each of the casinos this evening to clarify that seats should not be on sale yet.  

Similarly, APAT has sent a Regional Tournament Pack to each casino via the National Poker Managers at Grosvenor and Gala.  This information will not be known across the casinos at this point, but obviously everyone will be made aware of the plans for the weekend.
Title: Re: Registering for APAT on day of play?
Post by: David Whiteford on October 03, 2007, 22:20:32 PM
Just phoned Gala Maybury and spoke to Andrew in the cardroom.  Turns out I was not the 1st to phone, and he said they have taken zero bookings to date, and will not be doing so until he clarifies with APAT whether he should or not. 

I advised that he could look at this thread, as APAT has stated clearly what should/should not happen.  He said he didnt have acces to internet from where he was, but asked me to post this.

So it seems the Saturday reg is on as planned.  See you there :)
Title: Re: Registering for APAT on day of play?
Post by: busman on October 03, 2007, 22:32:57 PM
glad to hear it, save me the trip tommorrow  ;D

see you all there early sat for reg
Title: Re: Registering for APAT on day of play?
Post by: omen666 on October 04, 2007, 14:45:19 PM
I phoned the Vic in London just now and they say they have 2 registered and the cardroom manager said he had had no instructions as to when Reg"s should and shouldn"t take place.  I mentioned to him that oin the site it is a same day registration and no pre-reg"s and I am only phoning because someone mentioned it on here that they regg"d.  He said the two Reg"s were Gareth or Gerald something and the other a Steve/stuart something, cannot remember to be exact..  He said he would take my word for it that there should be no pre reg"s and would put a note on the PC in order to prevent reg"s.
Title: Re: Registering for APAT on day of play?
Post by: Bodddders on October 04, 2007, 15:47:43 PM
Spoke to G Casino Luton and they have informed me they are not opening until 2pm on Saturday.
Hmm half an hour before the tournie is due to start. Me thinks it may well be a tad late kicking-off. Although it has been stated several times that there are bound to be a few teething probs with the first event and knowing Apat im sure everything will be running ultra smooth before too long.

Seasons 2 is just around the corner. Can"t wait!
Title: Re: Registering for APAT on day of play?
Post by: Ripple11 on October 04, 2007, 19:27:28 PM

I phoned the Vic in London just now and they say they have 2 registered and the cardroom manager said he had had no instructions as to when Reg"s should and shouldn"t take place.  I mentioned to him that oin the site it is a same day registration and no pre-reg"s and I am only phoning because someone mentioned it on here that they regg"d.  He said the two Reg"s were Gareth or Gerald something and the other a Steve/stuart something, cannot remember to be exact..  He said he would take my word for it that there should be no pre reg"s and would put a note on the PC in order to prevent reg"s.


Correct.....
Asked at the Vic"s reg. desk tonight and they said they weren"t taking any(more) regs until Saturday
Title: Re: Registering for APAT on day of play?
Post by: lukybugur on October 04, 2007, 20:00:12 PM

Just phoned Gala Maybury and spoke to Andrew in the cardroom.  Turns out I was not the 1st to phone, and he said they have taken zero bookings to date, and will not be doing so until he clarifies with APAT whether he should or not. 

I advised that he could look at this thread, as APAT has stated clearly what should/should not happen.  He said he didnt have acces to internet from where he was, but asked me to post this.

So it seems the Saturday reg is on as planned.  See you there :)



Good postings about Edinburgh. Great to know that predictions are that it will be too busy - defo better being over-subscribed than under-subscribed.

APAT folk are making conference calls tomorrow night at 20:30 to discuss Saturday"s Regional Events. I"m sure someone will answer all outstanding concerns around that time if not before. Until then, I"ve bookmarked the following three threads that should be of interest to the Edinburgh players;

http://www.apat.com/forum/index.php?topic=360.90  (this one)

http://www.apat.com/forum/index.php?topic=408.0

http://www.apat.com/forum/index.php?topic=401.0
Title: Re: Registering for APAT on day of play?
Post by: omen666 on October 05, 2007, 00:20:12 AM


I phoned the Vic in London just now and they say they have 2 registered and the cardroom manager said he had had no instructions as to when Reg"s should and shouldn"t take place.  I mentioned to him that oin the site it is a same day registration and no pre-reg"s and I am only phoning because someone mentioned it on here that they regg"d.  He said the two Reg"s were Gareth or Gerald something and the other a Steve/stuart something, cannot remember to be exact..  He said he would take my word for it that there should be no pre reg"s and would put a note on the PC in order to prevent reg"s.


Correct.....
Asked at the Vic"s reg. desk tonight and they said they weren"t taking any(more) regs until Saturday
Cheers ripple, it is really good that they stuck to their word on that, some would just say that to appease the caller must make a point in thanking them did you mention that was the corrct procedure? or try and blag it?
Title: Re: Registering for APAT on day of play?
Post by: Nillis on October 05, 2007, 12:21:06 PM
I spoke to the Cardroom Manager at Bristol Gala last night, and I got the distinct impression it was register on the day as he said something like "starts at 2.30 so get here well before then".

I daresay that Gala Bristol will be as in demand as places like Manchester and Edinburgh, not just because it"s new but i"d assume that all those outside the area would prefer Cardiff, but that"s just my 2 cents.
Title: Re: Registering for APAT on day of play?
Post by: RioRodent on October 05, 2007, 13:17:23 PM

I spoke to the Cardroom Manager at Bristol Gala last night, and I got the distinct impression it was register on the day as he said something like "starts at 2.30 so get here well before then".

I daresay that Gala Bristol will be as in demand as places like Manchester and Edinburgh, not just because it"s new but i"d assume that all those outside the area would prefer Cardiff, but that"s just my 2 cents.


Damn, No one had mentioned Bristle til now... I thought I was going to the only one there on Saturday!!  :"(
Title: Re: Registering for APAT on day of play?
Post by: ashhen on October 05, 2007, 14:49:35 PM
I was also hoping Bristle might slip under the radar. I spoke to someone there a few minutes ago on the phone and he said you had to register online. It was not clear if he meant simply on the APAT site or via the Gala website - but as the Gala website is useless and contains next to no information, I assume he meant on APAT. I"m going to be playing a Freezeout there this evening so will endeavour to get some information. I suspect I"ll be queueing outside from midday tomorrow though. Note: take a book.
Title: Re: Registering for APAT on day of play?
Post by: ToP14u on October 05, 2007, 15:22:57 PM
Can someone tell me if Manchester event sell out quickly and what time the casino opens for registration.  I live in Liverpool and was wondering if I would be wasting my time driving to Manchester to try and get a game.

Thanks in advance for your replys
Title: Re: Registering for APAT on day of play?
Post by: busman on October 05, 2007, 17:15:51 PM

I live in Liverpool and was wondering if I would be wasting my time driving to Manchester to try and get a game.

Thanks in advance for your replys


for all those wondering if it would be a waste of time traveling, i would say  if you arrive prior to the venue opening then the chances of 80 people waiting is probably unlikely. however you may turn up and get a seat easily so, a waste of time, nope i dont thinks so ;)
Title: Re: Registering for APAT on day of play?
Post by: RioRodent on October 05, 2007, 17:19:59 PM

I was also hoping Bristle might slip under the radar. I spoke to someone there a few minutes ago on the phone and he said you had to register online. It was not clear if he meant simply on the APAT site or via the Gala website - but as the Gala website is useless and contains next to no information, I assume he meant on APAT. I"m going to be playing a Freezeout there this evening so will endeavour to get some information. I suspect I"ll be queueing outside from midday tomorrow though. Note: take a book.


Since I now know that I won"t be alone in Bristle AND due to the fact that I am hopeless at Heads-Up play, I had better try and find some more prople to come and play!!  ;D

8)
Title: Re: Registering for APAT on day of play?
Post by: reenot on October 05, 2007, 20:08:16 PM
I"ll be at Bristol at opening time. Few more going than I thought!!!
Title: Re: Registering for APAT on day of play?
Post by: sharky_uk on October 05, 2007, 20:31:31 PM

When we get that information from the casinos we will update here.  The expected opening times will be between midday and 1pm, but we are pulling together an accurate picture across all venues.  Players will be notified here before the weekend.

Sometime this evening then?
Title: Re: Registering for APAT on day of play?
Post by: RioRodent on October 05, 2007, 20:57:08 PM


When we get that information from the casinos we will update here.  The expected opening times will be between midday and 1pm, but we are pulling together an accurate picture across all venues.  Players will be notified here before the weekend.

Sometime this evening then?


Sometime in the next half-hour hopefully... nearly finished my cocoa!!
Title: Re: Registering for APAT on day of play?
Post by: SirPercival on October 05, 2007, 21:09:32 PM


When we get that information from the casinos we will update here.  The expected opening times will be between midday and 1pm, but we are pulling together an accurate picture across all venues.  Players will be notified here before the weekend.

Sometime this evening then?

So when does the weekend actually start?
Title: Re: Registering for APAT on day of play?
Post by: Ripple11 on October 05, 2007, 21:17:40 PM
 Tighty has said on Blonde he hasn"t managed to do this in time.....check the casino websites for opening times or ring them.
Title: Re: Registering for APAT on day of play?
Post by: APAT on October 05, 2007, 21:32:46 PM
See the thread I have just put up.
Title: Re: Registering for APAT on day of play?
Post by: Nillis on October 06, 2007, 11:38:05 AM

I was also hoping Bristle might slip under the radar......

I suspect I"ll be queueing outside from midday tomorrow though.


I doubt Bristol will be packed. Indeed if it is I"ll be quite unhappy, I"m watching the Formula 1 Qualifying before I leave, i"d hate to miss out because i"ve been looking forward to this for some time.

Should be great to play you all, and don"t fear RioRodent, i"m barely a player to be worried about :)
Title: Re: Registering for APAT on day of play?
Post by: Bodddders on October 11, 2007, 11:22:49 AM
I know its still a month away, but what are the plans for thr regional events on the 10 Nov. They are to be promoted this time around I believe and so there is a possibility that some venues could well reach capacity. Will we be able to pre-register or will it be turn up early and queue outside in the cold?

Title: Re: Registering for APAT on day of play?
Post by: HaworthBantam on October 11, 2007, 12:04:29 PM

I know its still a month away, but what are the plans for thr regional events on the 10 Nov. They are to be promoted this time around I believe and so there is a possibility that some venues could well reach capacity. Will we be able to pre-register or will it be turn up early and queue outside in the cold?


Patience Mr Boddders, Patience   ;)

The Regional team haven"t yet had time to have their conference call to discuss all the feedback after this last weekend from players and casinos alike. This week, so far, has also included 2 online sats and the clickfest so there is bound to be a delay before info regarding the next Regional event is released.

Rest assured, however, that once decisions have been made, a posting will be made on the forum.

Ian
Title: Re: Registering for APAT on day of play?
Post by: Bodddders on October 11, 2007, 12:06:42 PM
Thanks Ian, look forward to the announcement.

Mike