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Poker Forum => General Discussion => Topic started by: jlane1980 on January 17, 2010, 21:17:52 PM
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My name"s Jon and I am a fish!
Surely the first step to shedding Fishiness is to admit that?! :)
OK,
So here"s the thing. I am not a profitable player. I listen to / read stories, all the time about people who are consistently making a profit and winning at poker. Now, i understand that sometimes these stories / tales can sometimes be a little fictitious (Kind of like "The one that got away")! However, most of the time there must be some truth in the matter!
So, i decided to take apart / dissect my play. Quite honestly, i can"t figure out what i"m doing wrong. I seem to go deep in most MTT"s (online and live), occasionally cashing, but more often than not i haven"t got enough chips by around the bubble to make a dent in anybody else"s chip stack and inevitably end up racing and losing out!
SO! I believe i have to do 2 things, and here is where i ask for your advise -
1. Go back to basics. I have read a few times, that when you believe you are at a dead end at poker, then one of the best things you can do is to go back to basics, and revisit the "bones of the game". Question One - How do i do this? Where is the best place to start?
2. Grow some BALLS :)! I have been told that i lack the Balls to gamble too much. I think i may sit too tight. I also don"t think i know the right time to steal / bluff. Which tends to get me in to awkward positions where i"m forced to fold and lose chips!
On the advise of SirPercival, i have brought The poker mindset, which i am told is a must!
I await your advise with baited breath.
Many Thanks in advance
Jon Lane
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Why don"t you put a few hands up in the academy to get some feedback on?
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I would also read Harrington on Hold'em series or re read if you have already. Others would say don"t bother so you need to think what would be best for you.
If you post some hands on here to give examples of those "awkward positions" I"m sure you"ll get plently of slagging off good advice.
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I felt like that around a year ago. I was losing alot and not getting any success
I found re Reading harrington on hold em tournament series helped when "to gamble" and when to play tighter
I was either playing too many pots thinking I could call with baby suited connectors like Daniel negreanu and outplayed my opponents if I hit draws on the flop or I wasn"t 3/4 betting enough with big hands and only calling too often and pricing in hands that could outdraw me
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Damn! sir percival beat me to it
things like shoving from the button with 2-8o when no one has entered the pot just to steal the blinds and when you get below a certain M or Q and observing table/stack dynamics when not to shove with 2-8o on the button to steal blinds and antes!
Take a week or so off playing and read about these in the harrington series will help your game no end
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OK,
Harrington on holdem... Just brought Volume 1, 2 and 3 off Amazon.
Damn, those three along with Poker mindset.... I"ve got a fair bit of reading to do!
If i go "Forum Silent" for a while, don"t worry... I"m just reading! ;)
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And P.S - M? Q? Table dynamics?! Already sounding a bit baffling!
At least i know i"m at the bottom of a learning curve!
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And P.S - M? Q? Table dynamics?! Already sounding a bit baffling!
At least i know i"m at the bottom of a learning curve!
M & Q were in James Bond -- You are not alone at the bottom of the learning curve, but there are plenty on here to get you up the ladder so to speak.
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M = number of orbits your chips will make round the table before your blinded out
eg
100/200 blinds = 300 chips it costs you each time the button passes
you have 3000 chips = you have an M of 10 (3000/300 = 10)
you have 900 chips = you have an M of 3 (900/300 = 3)
basically it"s a guide to letyou know when your chip stack is in trouble or how healthy it is
Q is your chips ratio to the chips in play. A little less important than M in my opinion but it"s basically the chip average
q = (your current chips divided by Starting chips) x (current players divided by number of starting players)
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Top tip
don"t buy volume 3 just yet
everything you need to know/learn is in volumes 1 & 2
volume 3 is basically a workbook / exam testing you how well you"ve done and then helps pinpoint what aspects/chapters need to be re read
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If you want to learn more about the M and Q I can send you a link to some videos on this subject, just PM me
Wayne
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M = number of orbits your chips will make round the table before your blinded out
eg
100/200 blinds = 300 chips it costs you each time the button passes
you have 3000 chips = you have an M of 10 (3000/300 = 10)
you have 900 chips = you have an M of 3 (900/300 = 3)
basically it"s a guide to letyou know when your chip stack is in trouble or how healthy it is
Q is your chips ratio to the chips in play. A little less important than M in my opinion but it"s basically the chip average
q = (your current chips divided by Starting chips) x (current players divided by number of starting players)
lol, I"d often wondered what they meant. Nice and simply explained. ty
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Volume II of the Harrington series is easily the most important (in my opinion). Of course, you have to read I first, but I know a lot of people who slate the Harrington books, but have only read the first one. The first one is just setting the groundwork, and it"s II that is the most useful.
Of course, a lot of other players you"ll come across will have read them too - so bear this in mind. In fact, because a lot of others have read them it makes reading them more important imo.
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Oh and Q is generally completely irrelevant imo - unless it"s a satellite, when it can be useful.
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I have read all of Harringtons books. And the first time i read them i thought they were the Bible. But since then i have looked at other ways to play. I have looked into the way Gus Hansen plays, and Of course Daniel Negranue.
I dont think you should restrict yourself to beign a harringbot. You will occasionaly go deep, but will struggle to make final tables (and or) with chips. I know that harrington has made 3 ME final tables, but that is with the very very slow strucature and massive fields of the wsop, where Playing only good hands early on keeps you in the tourney. For most players who cannot afford the mega buyins, then we have to make do with faster tourneys. I think this is where most people are going wrong with tourneys, they are playing way to tight during the middle stadges.
In Harrington vol 2, he talks about the colour zones etc. There is no way enough depth or material during this part of the book. And during his Vol 1, has anyone noticed that lots of hand examples are for online sngs......lol, i doubt that harrington has experiance with fast online sngs at a $20 buyin.
Anyway. im so glad that lots of people think that these books are the bible. Because these players are fairly easy to play against imo.
Having said all of that, they are great books as a base line. I would say that it helped me discover the importance of position, starting hands, short handed play and pot odds. But for more advanced stuff, you need to look elsewhere. For example, he does not go into changing you starting hands when the Antes kick in, doesnt tell you things like pot controll, detailed implied odds, blocker bets, bluffing outs and using scare cards against you opponents etc, he leaves out lots and lots that you have to find elsewhere.
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I too read Harrington and have done well following his guidelines but they are just that guidelines. You need to develop your own style and personally I spend more time on analysing studying a players style at the table (bet sizes, body language (live obviously) , looking in the history to see what he called with etc
Does annoy me when someone plays who deviates from ABC Harrington and you get comments "you called with that?" Personally I like playing people who vary from the norm makes the game more interesting.
that said am also looking for other good books outside of harrington to see different perspectives
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Thank you all for your advise! A friend of mine already had a copy of Harrington"s Vol. 1, so i"ve borrowed that until my copies come through.
I know that there"s a lot of different and varied styles, and i have to adapt my own, but i think my problem was that my own style wasn"t working! So i"m working on that!
Any other suggestions on how i can improve? I like the idea of posting hand history, but i"m going to take some earlier advise and not play again for a couple of weeks, whilst i read and study! That couple of weeks should, not by coincidence, coincide with the announcement of next season (Sponsorship etc.), so i think the next time i play, will be with new software!
I"m going to refrain from playing in my local live league until i have read Harrington 1 & 2 and the poker mindset. Lets see if the rest will help reset my style!
Any further advise will be greatly received,
Many thanks
Jon Lane
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taking a break is never a bad idea
if you play almost every day your gonna get stale and end up in a rut/routine of style that will make you even more expoiltable
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Convincing people you play good, but really play bad can often throw your opponent. ;)
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LOL ;D Perhaps that should be my Style?! :)
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Convincing people you play good, but really play bad can often throw your opponent. ;)
Convincing people you are really bad, but really play good is also effective. (I"ve mastered the first part but not the second) ;)
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Convincing people you play good, but really play bad can often throw your opponent. ;)
Convincing people you are really bad, but really play good is also effective. (I"ve mastered the first part but not the second) ;)
:D
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Oooh, i"ve just realised that FishAholics Anonymous makes me sound like i"m addicted to fish! I"m not, but i"m sure you get the point of the title!
I don"t even like the stuff, bad smelling, beady eyed and bony! Nope, not for me!
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bad smelling, beady eyed and bony!
must resist response - must resist
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books are to be read and enjoyed. Read them all, absorb them then forget about them. They merely give you an insight into how people play the game. The best way to improve is to play and when it goes belly up, read and contribute to the many strategy forums available
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I think it"s all been said above really, however....
I recommended Harrington as I think it would be a good starting point from your current position but it would be limiting to only follow one style of play. You do need to work out what suits you and it"s also important to be flexible enough to change your style as required. Understanding what "m" is doesn"t mean you have to follow a set of rules, but going through that learning curve will improve your thinking about the game. I"ve never found Q particularly useful but others have so will keep an open mind.
If your looking for a different style all together try something like Gus Hanson"s "Every Hand Revealed" but I wouldn"t recommend trying to copy this style without a lot more experience. Actually I wouldn"t try and copy any style. Create your own based on the knowledge in all the books and your own experience.
Be sure to find me at your first live APAT and let me know how it"s going.
Best of luck variance
Stuart
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Yes Rob "swinebag" is right. Ive read 18 different poker books in the last 3 years, really enjoyed all of them. Some of them iv re-read about 3 or 4 times. But the best way to improve is to get on the felt, or online and play as many hands as possible... Unfortunatly this may mean losing lots of money at the same time....lol
Another good way to get better is to watch poker on TV. Pokertube has almost every show going. The best to watch for improving game, also for entertainment is Poker After dark.
maybe calling the HOH series the "bible" to some players is a bit far fetched. What i should of said was that there are people out there who have read these books, and these books only, and then they think this is the ONLY way to play.
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I disagree that TV is a good way to learn. Entertaining sometimes yes, but usually highly edited.
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I disagree that TV is a good way to learn. Entertaining sometimes yes, but usually highly edited.
bit like your creative play ;D
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Poker after dark actually shows every hand. it is by far the best poker show, with the best players. Ivey, durrrr, helmuth, antonius and hansen are regulars on this show, and its great to watch them in action. It is basically a short handed sng. they also do great cash games too.
I agree that all the other poker shows, such as wsop, and all the partypoker stuff that we get late on channel 4 are edited to just show the aces vs kings and sets against straights. so i guess some programmes give a distroted view of how poker actually plays out.
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TBH i"m not sure if reading books will help you..I"d suggest some sort of visual way of trying to improve then prehaps reading about the tactics/strategy behind everything u see..So rather spending $$ on books now, maybe joining a training site met be more beneficial..
I"ll put up some links for PXF hand histories that may/met help you see how other players approach mtts if thats the sort of area your looking to play..
All of these links can be viewed if you regisiter with PXF [free to join,and free to watch these] i"ve tried to give u a random mix of buy ins,freeze outs and re-buys,see if these help you..
http://www.pokerxfactor.com/HH118395/4477_20080303_140746
https://www.pokerxfactor.com/servlet/pxf?&a=mv&handid=29850&t=myhand2&fn=8699_20061101_004754|8699
http://www.pokerxfactor.com/servlet/pxf?a=mv&handid=73583&t=myhand&fn=2nd%203r&time=1185901454593
http://www.pokerxfactor.com/HA181292/39706_20090203_181345/39706
http://www.pokerxfactor.com/servlet/pxf?&a=mv&handid=100877&t=myhand2&fn=HH_PS|5421&time=1261131909715
http://www.pokerxfactor.com/HA183093/817_20090218_150650/817
http://www.pokerxfactor.com/HA144982/5421_20080724_183441/5421
http://www.pokerxfactor.com/HA120070/15583_20080312_034630/15583
http://www.pokerxfactor.com/servlet/pxf?&a=mv&handid=42747&t=myhand2&fn=deeb|3146&time=1261042696798
http://www.pokerxfactor.com/HA45477/Deeb/3146
http://www.pokerxfactor.com/HA87490/WCOOP%20ME%20HH/5421
http://www.pokerxfactor.com/HH165114/30098_20081027_013932
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People learn in different ways. Some absorb knowledge through reading, others require kinaesthetic learning, where they only retain the information through active participation. Some remember information that they"ve been exposed to visually, others through what they hear. Most will benefit from a combination of these.
Also, it"s easier to take a book to the loo with you...
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If it was me I would read HOH and supersystem, and maybe Joe Navarro read em and reap if ur gna b playing live. More importantly however, Id just get my head down and put in as many hours as I could on thefelt. The best way to learn is from ur own mistakes.
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People learn in different ways. Some absorb knowledge through reading, others require kinaesthetic learning, where they only retain the information through active participation. Some remember information that they"ve been exposed to visually, others through what they hear. Most will benefit from a combination of these.
Also, it"s easier to take a book to the loo with you...
I thought that this was a method created by Mr KinBoshi......... but it would appear not ;D.......
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinesthetic_learning
I"m a big fan of taking a break every now and again, read, watch & learn....it will freshen your game up no end.
Now where"s my book collection???
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I find that this just feels right to me!
People learn in different ways. Some absorb knowledge through reading, others require kinaesthetic learning, where they only retain the information through active participation. Some remember information that they"ve been exposed to visually, others through what they hear. Most will benefit from a combination of these.
Also, it"s easier to take a book to the loo with you...
I like books, it"s easier to go over bits you don"t quite understand! Although i do intend to watch all the videos that noble1 recommended.
I"m about half way through Harrington Vol. 1, and am just about to re-read the pot odds chapter. I think i will benefit from knowing more about when i should call with a mediocre hand, because i"m getting good odds etc. So far, really liking the book, and i can feel it helping to patch up the holes in my game! I think i need to get pot odds to start becoming more natural and instinctive! Any tips on getting pot odds ingrained? Or is that just experience?
Jon
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I like to keep it simple, suits me.
Board contains :2c: jh ah
You hold qh 6h
Pot contains 2000
Your opponent goes allin for another 1000 and you suspect he has AK, should you call?
The pot is offering you odds of 3:1 ie. you need to invest 1000 to win the 3000 in the pot.
So you need to work out the odds of hitting your flush.
The easiest way to do this is counting your outs ie. 9 outs because there are 9 remaining hearts in the deck.
Then perform a simple calcualtion, outs x 2 x cards to come, in this case (9 x 2) x 2 = 36% therefore you are roughly 2:1 to hit your hand so a call is a good proposition over the long term. Even though you win only once in every three times, each time you win you are winning 4 times what you have to put in, so its a good gamble.
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Thankyou, Nicely put!
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9 outs x 4 = 36% winning chance.
This means that with odds of 3-1 you only need to have %25 chance to hit to make it a profitable call in the long run. This is know as expressed pot odds.
These calcations are taken from gus Hansen book......it helps me to of memorised it.
4-1 expressed odds = 20% winning chance to make it profitable
3-1 25%
2-1 33%
1.5-1 40%
Of course these are rounded off in some way, but close enough for gus. And remember, this is only correct if you can see the turn and river for the same price, like if the opponent ships it in on the flop
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Nearly three quarters of the way through HOH Vol. 1. I think i have figured out a lot of my problems! Firstly, i think i raise too little. Harrington recommends raising a lot more than i thought i should PreFlop! So.... I"m gonna raise more. I think all too often i don"t raise with marginal & Top hands in position. So, i"m gonna raise more preflop! I think that way, i"ll get more value for my better hands.
Also, i think i"m playing way too tight, in position. I think my preflop play needs to improve loads! (Can you tell that i"m currently reading the preflop chapter?!)
Any thoughts? Is Harringtons advice on Preflop about what i should be looking at?
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Nearly three quarters of the way through HOH Vol. 1. I think i have figured out a lot of my problems! Firstly, i think i raise too little. Harrington recommends raising a lot more than i thought i should PreFlop! So.... I"m gonna raise more. I think all too often i don"t raise with marginal & Top hands in position. So, i"m gonna raise more preflop! I think that way, i"ll get more value for my better hands.
Also, i think i"m playing way too tight, in position. I think my preflop play needs to improve loads! (Can you tell that i"m currently reading the preflop chapter?!)
Any thoughts? Is Harringtons advice on Preflop about what i should be looking at?
What kind of hand range do you usually play with?
How much do you usually raise by?
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i thing you got to remember about harringotn - mostly his tournaments are deepstacked and slow structured
his raise of 3.5-4X BB is sound in big live events - but with a fast paced internet tourney or SnG With 1500 starting chips youve got to adjust a bit
read the whole thing before you start trying to make changes
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People learn in different ways. Some absorb knowledge through reading, others require kinaesthetic learning, where they only retain the information through active participation. Some remember information that they"ve been exposed to visually, others through what they hear. Most will benefit from a combination of these.
Also, it"s easier to take a book to the loo with you...
got me thinking of an article i read years ago which some met find interesting - http://archives1.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=7339473&page=0&fpart=1&vc=1&nt=2
pre-flop raising has imo different functions - to build a pot,to improve your position,isolate weak players and to steal blinds and antes..then there is 3bet stealing etc..As we get deeper in mtts and the blind to stack ratio gets smaller then reasons to pre-flop raise like pot building are less important but raising to steal becomes more prevalent..
[WHOOPS trying to write this and watch football and Stoke have scored after 70secs lol]
As you become better at mtts you will size your pre-flop bets according to the stage and your style,in the later stages you"ll bet/raise less as the hands you are playing will be more marginal and maybe u are bluffing more post flop [if your active] Its all about risk and reward , as the stacks get smaller and they become less inclined to call then when we are stealing there is no need to raise so much [this helps our big hands get paid off also because we are active]
You see players raising far to much with so so hands even now with so much info available and tbh it amazes still how little they understand a basic fundamental such as risk and reward [and pot odds,odds of themselves or opponent hitting if called etc]
If your not sure about how much to raise then post in the strategy forums and ask others how they approach bet sizing pre-flop [you will get some good answers :)]
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Question:
I have just finished Volume 1 of Harrington on Hold-em, as advised earlier in this post. I can"t remember who advised it, but thank you to that person!
I feel that i have learnt a lot, just by reading it! I do want to read to again at some point though. My question is; Should i re-read volume 1 now or move on to volume 2?
As another option, The poker mindset should, i"m told by Amazon, arrive tomorrow. I could wait for that and start that tomorrow evening.
So far my poker rebirth seems to be going well. Thank you Dan Harrington! ::)
Jon
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People learn in different ways. Some absorb knowledge through reading, others require kinaesthetic learning, where they only retain the information through active participation. Some remember information that they"ve been exposed to visually, others through what they hear. Most will benefit from a combination of these.
Also, it"s easier to take a book to the loo with you...
got me thinking of an article i read years ago which some met find interesting - http://archives1.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=7339473&page=0&fpart=1&vc=1&nt=2
pre-flop raising has imo different functions - to build a pot,to improve your position,isolate weak players and to steal blinds and antes..then there is 3bet stealing etc..As we get deeper in mtts and the blind to stack ratio gets smaller then reasons to pre-flop raise like pot building are less important but raising to steal becomes more prevalent..
[WHOOPS trying to write this and watch football and Stoke have scored after 70secs lol]
As you become better at mtts you will size your pre-flop bets according to the stage and your style,in the later stages you"ll bet/raise less as the hands you are playing will be more marginal and maybe u are bluffing more post flop [if your active] Its all about risk and reward , as the stacks get smaller and they become less inclined to call then when we are stealing there is no need to raise so much [this helps our big hands get paid off also because we are active]
You see players raising far to much with so so hands even now with so much info available and tbh it amazes still how little they understand a basic fundamental such as risk and reward [and pot odds,odds of themselves or opponent hitting if called etc]
If your not sure about how much to raise then post in the strategy forums and ask others how they approach bet sizing pre-flop [you will get some good answers :)]
Fantastic article! I had to read it a few times, but well worth an "inwardly digestion"! Thanks!
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Question:
I have just finished Volume 1 of Harrington on Hold-em, as advised earlier in this post. I can"t remember who advised it, but thank you to that person!
I feel that i have learnt a lot, just by reading it! I do want to read to again at some point though. My question is; Should i re-read volume 1 now or move on to volume 2?
As another option, The poker mindset should, i"m told by Amazon, arrive tomorrow. I could wait for that and start that tomorrow evening.
So far my poker rebirth seems to be going well. Thank you Dan Harrington! ::)
Jon
Jon,
I advised Harrington and the Poker Mindset. I don"t think it makes a lot of difference on what you read next. I personally read Vol2 then reread Vol1. I would then suggest you play for a bit and read them again learning from the experience.
The poker mindset can be read anytime. It claims to be the second most important book you will ever read with the most important being to one that teaches you the correct technical play.
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The poker mindset didn"t turn up as advertised! So i started on Vol 2. So far so good. Thanks for the advise!
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if anyone is interested in reading , these are insightful and get u thinking..
http://www.cardplayer.com/cardplayer-magazines/65663-larry-flynt-20-7/articles/16663-learning-efficiently
http://www.cardplayer.com/cardplayer-magazines/65666-paul-wasicka-20-9/articles/16734-learning-efficiently-part-ii
http://www.cardplayer.com/cardplayer-magazines/65669-carlos-mortensen-20-11/articles/16794-learning-efficiently-part-iii
crikey i"ve had these bookmarked and filed away for nearly 3 years and it still reads well :)
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if anyone is interested in reading , these are insightful and get u thinking..
http://www.cardplayer.com/cardplayer-magazines/65663-larry-flynt-20-7/articles/16663-learning-efficiently
http://www.cardplayer.com/cardplayer-magazines/65666-paul-wasicka-20-9/articles/16734-learning-efficiently-part-ii
http://www.cardplayer.com/cardplayer-magazines/65669-carlos-mortensen-20-11/articles/16794-learning-efficiently-part-iii
crikey i"ve had these bookmarked and filed away for nearly 3 years and it still reads well :)
Just read those now. Thanks. It"s amazing how much help i"m getting in shedding my fishiness!
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The Mrs has just approved my poker game on Friday night. Can"t wait to try and put Mr.Harrington to use at the felt! Question though;
There"s a couple of guys that pay the £25 entry fee, but have no concept of how to play "good" poker. These guys over play draws, and are quite happy to go all in with nothing but a Q high Flush Draw (I speak from experience!).
I know the book says the optimal strategy against these types of guys is to wait for the stone cold nuts, and take their money. But is there anything else i could do?
I sometimes find myself calling the 5th or 6th preflop raise they"ve made with A/Rag, just hoping to hit a flush. This usually ends up more costly in the long run. So, do i sit and wait for the others at my table to get their chips, or do i call marginal hands hoping to get lucky against them, in an attempt to procure their chips myself?
Jon
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where are you playing on fri?
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where are you playing on fri?
Either Camborne or Falmouth, Not sure which yet. Are you from down this way?
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I am, for the first time in my short and uneventful poker career, a winning player! I"m sure i have a huge bit of "varience" on the way. But so far so good.
I have managed to turn $5 in to $105 over the weekend! I am playing, and winning, $5 sit"n"go"s. I think i"m winning 6 out of 10, and cashing 8 out of 10. I"m sure this is luck, and i should be facing a downswing soon! But i"m loving it!
My sharkscope is finally in a positive!
However, i think i have a need to play the tournaments. I don"t have any good results in MTT"s, but my sit"n"go results are good. Is there something i can do to get better results in MTT"s? Or am i being a bit greedy?!
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Just read this:
http://www.bluffmagazine.com/magazine/You-are-BAD-at-Poker-Phil-Galfond-735.htm
It will fix everything..................................................
the end :)
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I am playing, and winning, $5 sit"n"go"s. I think i"m winning 6 out of 10, and cashing 8 out of 10.
are you sure about this bit? It might be right in a short spell of 10 sit and go"s but I would be surprised if you could sustain this over time (say 1000+ games).... it would run up an ROI of over 300%!
20% is generally a decent ROI for these games if sustained over time - to achieve that you would only need to cash in 4/10, with 2/10 wins.
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Yea 100% unsustainable :)
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I am playing, and winning, $5 sit"n"go"s. I think i"m winning 6 out of 10, and cashing 8 out of 10.
are you sure about this bit? It might be right in a short spell of 10 sit and go"s but I would be surprised if you could sustain this over time (say 1000+ games).... it would run up an ROI of over 300%!
20% is generally a decent ROI for these games if sustained over time - to achieve that you would only need to cash in 4/10, with 2/10 wins.
You"re right. I"m afraid that was my results for about 20-30 games, then i think i was getting a bit cocky. I"m not sure what my more consistent results are. I"m having a bit of a break again, while i reread HOH vol 1 and 2. I think they have both helped me a lot. I"m finding it difficult to read the Poker Mindset though. I think i"ll reread HOH first.
I guess my main question now is; do i stick to sit"n"go"s, where i"m getting "results" from? Or do i concentrate on getting better at MTT"s? (Which i"m getting no results from, whatsoever!)
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I am playing, and winning, $5 sit"n"go"s. I think i"m winning 6 out of 10, and cashing 8 out of 10.
are you sure about this bit? It might be right in a short spell of 10 sit and go"s but I would be surprised if you could sustain this over time (say 1000+ games).... it would run up an ROI of over 300%!
20% is generally a decent ROI for these games if sustained over time - to achieve that you would only need to cash in 4/10, with 2/10 wins.
You"re right. I"m afraid that was my results for about 20-30 games, then i think i was getting a bit cocky. I"m not sure what my more consistent results are. I"m having a bit of a break again, while i reread HOH vol 1 and 2. I think they have both helped me a lot. I"m finding it difficult to read the Poker Mindset though. I think i"ll reread HOH first.
I guess my main question now is; do i stick to sit"n"go"s, where i"m getting "results" from? Or do i concentrate on getting better at MTT"s? (Which i"m getting no results from, whatsoever!)
I"d recommend that you stick to the SnG"s, the higher variance at Mtt"s will adversely affect your confidence and is misleading.
Most learning is heuristic and this is were Poker learning is problematic, we can play perfectly and lose, and thus obviously, we can play like we"re from NI ;D terribad and win big. In this respect it is important to analyse winning sessions honestly and look for good play that got unlucky in our losing sessions.
Good luck with it and keep doing what you"re doing.