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Title: How would you play this out to extract value?
Post by: LongshanksED on January 18, 2010, 18:09:34 PM
7 handed tourney. Guy seated to my left is a terrible player. Really bad, plays every hand no
matter what. Always calls (station) virtually any raise pre flop and will call an all in with any paint pre flop. Never raises pre flop even if multiple limped with a high pair and puts small raises in when he has huge hands like he"s trapping to extract value  

I"m In cut off and villian is on button. Blinds 50/100. Both villian and I have 7.5k from our 5k starting stack

it"s 3 limped to me and I see 67 clubs I decide to limp to see a flop do does button. Small blind folds?!?!!? Big blind checks

K85 rainbow. Checked round to me with 650 I think about taking a stab but elect to check and villian bets 100 into 650. I call.

Turn is a 2 putting 2 spades out. I check and again he bets 100 into the 850 pot. I call

river is off suit 9. As Norman chad sys - yahtzee!

Before I think how to get the most out of this, villian bets 700 out of turn.  So I"m pretty sure he has a set or at least 2 pair. The table remind him it"s me to act. How much do you bet so not to scare him off but get at least a call or get him to re raise?
     
Title: Re: How would you play this out to extract value?
Post by: deanp27 on January 18, 2010, 18:13:57 PM
you have to check so that his bet stands - no?????

then jam it in his eye
Title: Re: How would you play this out to extract value?
Post by: jbworldwide on January 18, 2010, 18:30:26 PM

you have to check so that his bet stands - no?????

then jam it in his eye


this surely, you check he bets 700, then you got to value town :)
Title: Re: How would you play this out to extract value?
Post by: Mikeyboy9361 on January 18, 2010, 18:58:42 PM
Doesn"t his out of turn bet stand? Allowing you to re raise.
Title: Re: How would you play this out to extract value?
Post by: LongshanksED on January 18, 2010, 19:19:43 PM

Doesn"t his out of turn bet stand? Allowing you to re raise.


this was one thing I was thinking about bhad I lead out for say, 300, does his 700 still stand? Wasn"t sure!
Title: Re: How would you play this out to extract value?
Post by: deanp27 on January 18, 2010, 19:30:30 PM
no you have to check first then it stands

sounds daft i know but if you change action by betting then his bet doesn"t stand
Title: Re: How would you play this out to extract value?
Post by: duke3016 on January 18, 2010, 19:47:44 PM

you have to check so that his bet stands - no?????

then jam it in his eye


straight to the point and perfect.........
Title: Re: How would you play this out to extract value?
Post by: Swinebag on January 18, 2010, 20:09:58 PM
I was teaching formulae today and came across this beauty

(oppo is a station) + (I have the nuts) + (oppo likes his hand) = shove for value

flawless maths ;D
Title: Re: How would you play this out to extract value?
Post by: duke3016 on January 18, 2010, 20:26:21 PM

I was teaching formulae today and came across this beauty

(oppo is a station) + (I have the nuts) + (oppo likes his hand) = shove for value

flawless maths ;D


Look out for a new batch of fearless players leaving a school near you (if you live near Manchester)
Title: Re: How would you play this out to extract value?
Post by: LongshanksED on January 18, 2010, 23:49:06 PM
I thought of checking but instead I"d thought I"d look cheeky and bet 750. He insta shoved and I called

he tabled KK for flopped set.

I wanted him to put the raise in so I could stack him if he went all in or re raise him if he min raised

I was kinda worries if I bet out he may just call hence the slightly overbet to his original bet
Title: Re: How would you play this out to extract value?
Post by: noble1 on January 19, 2010, 01:55:43 AM
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Always calls (station) virtually any raise pre flop and will call an all in with any paint pre flop. Never raises pre flop even if multiple limped with a high pair and puts small raises in when he has huge hands like he"s trapping to extract value  


u answered your own question with this read imho LongshanksED and with the baby 1bb bets flop+turn and the extra info u gain from villain on 5th street it is an automatic all in huge overbet it will pay off big time in the long run versus all stations u read like this.