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Title: Friday night fight- tournament in full
Post by: George2Loose on March 15, 2010, 22:52:25 PM
OK guys. Wanted to give something back to APAT so I have uploaded the entire tourney win from Friday. 500+ hands. Might be giving something away when you all play me but seeing as APAT players habitually outplay me shouldn"t make too much of a difference!!!

Please ask any questions re any hands. There"s a coupla times where I"ve got lucky but I"ll try and talk you through my thinking as best as I can recall. Some hands may not be that clear in my head tho after all the tourney did start at 2am!!! I"ve not watched it all myself yet- just the final

Please find link below.

https://www.pokerxfactor.com/servlet/pxf?&a=mv&handid=213958&t=myhand&fn=031410_George2Loose
Title: Re: Friday night fight- tournament in full
Post by: Swinebag on March 15, 2010, 23:17:02 PM
looking forward to finding a few hours to read through this.

n1 George

and vwd......again
Title: Re: Friday night fight- tournament in full
Post by: George2Loose on March 15, 2010, 23:21:41 PM
Hi bud- it"s a hand replayer- no need to read. Just press the play button :)
Title: Re: Friday night fight- tournament in full
Post by: Swinebag on March 15, 2010, 23:33:09 PM

Hi bud- it"s a hand replayer- no need to read. Just press the play button :)


LOL - just need to find 1 minute to click it then. cheers again
Title: Re: Friday night fight- tournament in full
Post by: TopPair2Pair on March 15, 2010, 23:43:48 PM
George, your my hero! is pxf free?
Title: Re: Friday night fight- tournament in full
Post by: TheSnapper on March 15, 2010, 23:44:39 PM
nice one George fair play.
Title: Re: Friday night fight- tournament in full
Post by: George2Loose on March 15, 2010, 23:46:39 PM

George, your my hero! is pxf free?


to view this, yes.
Title: Re: Friday night fight- tournament in full
Post by: TopPair2Pair on March 15, 2010, 23:48:44 PM
tytytyty
Title: Re: Friday night fight- tournament in full
Post by: CrizzyConnor on March 16, 2010, 01:19:10 AM
Is there anyway to filter this to only show hands you played?
Title: Re: Friday night fight- tournament in full
Post by: George2Loose on March 16, 2010, 01:31:16 AM
dont think so but there"s a  next hand button. U can keep pressing that and keep an eye on my stack. If it changes significantly you"ll know u need to watch the prev hand
Title: Re: Friday night fight- tournament in full
Post by: CrizzyConnor on March 16, 2010, 01:55:02 AM

dont think so but there"s a  next hand button. U can keep pressing that and keep an eye on my stack. If it changes significantly you"ll know u need to watch the prev hand


Yeah, I got to like 50 hands in and thought "there must be some way around this".
I"ll try and make it through it all tomorrow  :D
Title: Re: Friday night fight- tournament in full
Post by: Laxie on March 16, 2010, 09:04:36 AM
Cheers George!  That"s my Tuesday sorted.   :)
Title: Re: Friday night fight- tournament in full
Post by: THEGUY84 on March 16, 2010, 09:53:26 AM

Cheers George!  That"s my Tuesday sorted.   :)


+1 no need for Uni work now!!
Title: Re: Friday night fight- tournament in full
Post by: pokerpops on March 16, 2010, 16:04:06 PM
Nice result, must be a delight to live in a world where AQ > AK twice!

Seriously, thanks for sharing this - I watched it all earlier and found much to make me think about my game and how to improve it.
Title: Re: Friday night fight- tournament in full
Post by: Mikeyboy9361 on March 16, 2010, 18:15:02 PM
Am I being thick, but I have followed the link, then do I have to join, or is there a link to click to see the vid?
Title: Re: Friday night fight- tournament in full
Post by: RioRodent on March 16, 2010, 19:04:47 PM

Nice result, must be a delight to live in a world where AQ > AK twice!

Seriously, thanks for sharing this - I watched it all earlier and found much to make me think about my game and how to improve it.


hmmmmmm  :D
Title: Re: Friday night fight- tournament in full
Post by: treydj on March 16, 2010, 21:08:04 PM
great stuff m8.

Going through it now.

Can you have a look at hand 90 - what were your thoughts on this one george?

cheers

Jas
Title: Re: Friday night fight- tournament in full
Post by: noble1 on March 16, 2010, 21:15:36 PM
george if u goto your Hand Histories you can change the link [under show links] you can choose between with stats or without.
Watched with your cards covered [i get more of feel this way :)] upto hand 199 so far and the only ?? i"d have is your sb play though u seem to tighten this up as it gets further [havent looked at your hole cards yet]
Forgot to jot the hand number down but ur in the sb and the flop is QQ5 2 diamonds 3way and u decide to check raise, i think with 2 others seeing the flop i met lead out here if i have a queen rather than risk villains taking a free card, the check raise screams i have a QUEEN as u had been so quiet upto then...[if crafty bluff nice1]
Hand 199 with the Ace xx monotone flop seems odd to overbet given bb and sb stack sizes .. TPWK ?? my guess,if so a std ish bet would get the job done imo maybe get them to brain fart a FD..
Have not really had a chance to see much postflop [i assume card dead] ...

I"ll keep skimming through it tomorrow....
Title: Re: Friday night fight- tournament in full
Post by: pables on March 16, 2010, 21:22:03 PM
VWP,
Just makes me realise how scared I play. An eye opener TY

Ian
Title: Re: Friday night fight- tournament in full
Post by: shozboy1 on March 16, 2010, 22:32:11 PM
Wow george this is awesome. Thankyou so much for sharing this. Should be a sic learning experience for us.
I"ve looked at the 1st 73 hands. Hand 73 was a crucial one I guess, in the fact you doubled up with the A7s when you flopped 2 pair. I think there was a raise to 160, call and you called. I wonder what you were thinking preflop with this hand? Did you consider a fold? I guess a fold here wouldn"t be terrible? (thats what I called out before you acted)
Title: Re: Friday night fight- tournament in full
Post by: Fatcatstu on March 17, 2010, 13:23:09 PM
George, hand 90 was interesting for me.

You had played fairly tight up til then and it got folded to your small blind where you limp re raised then bet out an A high flop. Am i being a big donkey by saying after re raising and being called i wouldnt be able to bet 750 on this flop with the 9 high you had?
Title: Re: Friday night fight- tournament in full
Post by: pokerpops on March 17, 2010, 14:49:40 PM

George, hand 90 was interesting for me.

You had played fairly tight up til then and it got folded to your small blind where you limp re raised then bet out an A high flop. Am i being a big donkey by saying after re raising and being called i wouldnt be able to bet 750 on this flop with the 9 high you had?


yes you are son, a very big donkey, especially since the action you"re talking about wasn"t hand 90....

much love

Pokerpops
x
Title: Re: Friday night fight- tournament in full
Post by: Fatcatstu on March 17, 2010, 15:18:31 PM


George, hand 90 was interesting for me.

You had played fairly tight up til then and it got folded to your small blind where you limp re raised then bet out an A high flop. Am i being a big donkey by saying after re raising and being called i wouldnt be able to bet 750 on this flop with the 9 high you had?


yes you are son, a very big donkey, especially since the action you"re talking about wasn"t hand 90....

much love

Pokerpops
x


Dear Dad,

As a result of your abuse, i am bringing my (GOLD) medal to poker on thursday.

You asked for it,

Stubear.

x
Title: Re: Friday night fight- tournament in full
Post by: pokerpops on March 17, 2010, 17:02:43 PM



George, hand 90 was interesting for me.

You had played fairly tight up til then and it got folded to your small blind where you limp re raised then bet out an A high flop. Am i being a big donkey by saying after re raising and being called i wouldnt be able to bet 750 on this flop with the 9 high you had?


yes you are son, a very big donkey, especially since the action you"re talking about wasn"t hand 90....

much love

Pokerpops
x


Dear Dad,

As a result of your abuse, i am bringing my (GOLD) medal to poker on thursday.

You asked for it,

Stubear.

x


Don"t forget to wipe it off first...

and don"t blame me if it get"s nicked - you know the venue!
Title: Re: Friday night fight- tournament in full
Post by: Fonzie14 on March 17, 2010, 17:05:11 PM
Very nice George. An excellent example of "Big Stack" poker at the FT. Congrats on the cash btw.
Title: Re: Friday night fight- tournament in full
Post by: kinboshi on March 17, 2010, 17:33:54 PM
Nice touch George.  Will have a gander at that when I get a chance.

Does it come with girlie giggles, or do you have to add your own sound effects?
Title: Re: Friday night fight- tournament in full
Post by: kinboshi on March 17, 2010, 17:34:11 PM


Nice result, must be a delight to live in a world where AQ > AK twice!

Seriously, thanks for sharing this - I watched it all earlier and found much to make me think about my game and how to improve it.


hmmmmmm  :D


Shush you, what have you ever won...?

:D
Title: Re: Friday night fight- tournament in full
Post by: RioRodent on March 17, 2010, 18:41:57 PM



Nice result, must be a delight to live in a world where AQ > AK twice!

Seriously, thanks for sharing this - I watched it all earlier and found much to make me think about my game and how to improve it.


hmmmmmm  :D



Shush you, what have you ever won...?

:D


That was a private joke between me and David 3103 - see http://riorodent.blogspot.com/2010/03/amusing-exchange-in-chat-box.html  ;D
Title: Re: Friday night fight- tournament in full
Post by: George2Loose on March 17, 2010, 19:32:13 PM

great stuff m8.

Going through it now.

Can you have a look at hand 90 - what were your thoughts on this one george?

cheers

Jas


With the A10 diamonds? Well Paul Merson the opener was pretty spewy so when he min raises I"m putting him on a wide range. The shorty is obv shoving wide too. I"m pretty sure if I flat here Paul will not re raise and probably check it down. When the 3rd player gets involved I"m pretty much done with the hand

I know it shouldn"t but sometimes having 100$ on someone"s head makes you call lighter so this probably had something to do with it too. I did have to say to myself in a couple of spots forget the 100$! Keep your eyes on the prize
Title: Re: Friday night fight- tournament in full
Post by: George2Loose on March 17, 2010, 19:38:24 PM

george if u goto your Hand Histories you can change the link [under show links] you can choose between with stats or without.
Watched with your cards covered [i get more of feel this way :)] upto hand 199 so far and the only ?? i"d have is your sb play though u seem to tighten this up as it gets further [havent looked at your hole cards yet]
Forgot to jot the hand number down but ur in the sb and the flop is QQ5 2 diamonds 3way and u decide to check raise, i think with 2 others seeing the flop i met lead out here if i have a queen rather than risk villains taking a free card, the check raise screams i have a QUEEN as u had been so quiet upto then...[if crafty bluff nice1]
Hand 199 with the Ace xx monotone flop seems odd to overbet given bb and sb stack sizes .. TPWK ?? my guess,if so a std ish bet would get the job done imo maybe get them to brain fart a FD..
Have not really had a chance to see much postflop [i assume card dead] ...

I"ll keep skimming through it tomorrow....



Hi mate. Small>big play is probably something I need to work on. I find that esp online people will 3 bet/peel from the big blind a lot more when met with a small blind raise so I really tighten my range up. I hate getting into spots with Ace rag or small pairs where I"m basically stacking off on occasion.

Yes I did have a Queen and do like to lead usually but felt the limper was going to take a stab. When the big blind bet and the limper folded I just wanted to build the pot as quickly as poss. I deffo do lead in these spots usually - musta just been mixing it up at the time.

Yes it was a weak ace and massive overbet. Sometimes I will bet to induce here but decided I didn"t want to get into a confrontation against a spazzy flush draw. It"s probably a bet play value wise but sometimes I will make these kind of bets just to reduce variance in these situations. I had the 8d as back up too
Title: Re: Friday night fight- tournament in full
Post by: George2Loose on March 17, 2010, 19:39:49 PM

Wow george this is awesome. Thankyou so much for sharing this. Should be a sic learning experience for us.
I"ve looked at the 1st 73 hands. Hand 73 was a crucial one I guess, in the fact you doubled up with the A7s when you flopped 2 pair. I think there was a raise to 160, call and you called. I wonder what you were thinking preflop with this hand? Did you consider a fold? I guess a fold here wouldn"t be terrible? (thats what I called out before you acted)


Hi bud. This call is very loose but again Merson was the type to spazz out which he did with A10. I mean when I check min raise with my stack in that spot it"s so strong. I wouldn"t usually advocate this play but hey I was on the button and they were suited :D
Title: Re: Friday night fight- tournament in full
Post by: George2Loose on March 17, 2010, 19:40:46 PM

George, hand 90 was interesting for me.

You had played fairly tight up til then and it got folded to your small blind where you limp re raised then bet out an A high flop. Am i being a big donkey by saying after re raising and being called i wouldnt be able to bet 750 on this flop with the 9 high you had?


This was an image thing more than anything. I had limp folded once or twice so thought I had enough squeezer power to c/raise and c bet any board. You can"t abort a plan midway thru dude. Have the bottle to follow it thru even if you are walking out the door sometimes :)
Title: Re: Friday night fight- tournament in full
Post by: George2Loose on March 17, 2010, 19:41:18 PM

Nice touch George.  Will have a gander at that when I get a chance.

Does it come with girlie giggles, or do you have to add your own sound effects?


Was thinking about it Might add a giggle for every pot I win?
Title: Re: Friday night fight- tournament in full
Post by: duke3016 on March 17, 2010, 19:49:01 PM
watched -- just awesome - you have moved from hero to legendary  ;D
Title: Re: Friday night fight- tournament in full
Post by: CrizzyConnor on March 18, 2010, 03:11:24 AM

You can"t abort a plan midway thru dude. Have the bottle to follow it thru even if you are walking out the door sometimes :)


I have this exact same outlook on the game, unfortunately I mostly end up walking out the door :D

Will finish this off tomorrow, got through most of it.
Title: Re: Friday night fight- tournament in full
Post by: Fatcatstu on March 18, 2010, 10:35:18 AM


George, hand 90 was interesting for me.

You had played fairly tight up til then and it got folded to your small blind where you limp re raised then bet out an A high flop. Am i being a big donkey by saying after re raising and being called i wouldnt be able to bet 750 on this flop with the 9 high you had?


This was an image thing more than anything. I had limp folded once or twice so thought I had enough squeezer power to c/raise and c bet any board. You can"t abort a plan midway thru dude. Have the bottle to follow it thru even if you are walking out the door sometimes :)



Lol i am considering giving up my "plans" you can ask dave3103, they always seem to go tits up, my timing is fecking awful usually.

You probably have the worst opinion of me of all time after this AND the fact that i get a mention in your blog for limp folding for a good 3 hours of the world championships!!!

sigh!!!

congrats on the win btw, forgot to add that!
Title: Re: Friday night fight- tournament in full
Post by: shozboy1 on March 21, 2010, 14:29:01 PM
hi george, your views on hand 142 would be welcome. specifically, when/why do you open limp otb? i dont do this, but i"ve seen pros do this, what are your thoughts?
Title: Re: Friday night fight- tournament in full
Post by: shozboy1 on March 21, 2010, 14:38:39 PM
hi george, also hand 147. you have a pretty awkward stack for play now - less than 20bbs. you raise with a10s. If you had got a caller, would you have cbet a dry flop here as usual, or - given your stack size, or perhaps gone for a funky check raise all in if the flop was superdry?
Title: Re: Friday night fight- tournament in full
Post by: TheSnapper on March 28, 2010, 23:57:54 PM
Just finished watching this. VWP George, Jesus you just ran over them, from final table especially. Maybe they looked so bad because you made it that way, but, for a $500 buy in tourney I was very suprised to see some shockingly bad play.
Have a few spots to pick your brains about if you get back to this George and thanks a lot for the insight.
Title: Re: Friday night fight- tournament in full
Post by: George2Loose on March 30, 2010, 17:41:45 PM

hi george, your views on hand 142 would be welcome. specifically, when/why do you open limp otb? i dont do this, but i"ve seen pros do this, what are your thoughts?


Looking back I hate the play. I don"t limp often. I thought I would deeper if I"d limped the button (which I sometimes do). I spose in hindsight I didn"t want to open and have to fold if shoved on and I didn"t want to shove obv so limped. Pretty bad imo
Title: Re: Friday night fight- tournament in full
Post by: George2Loose on March 30, 2010, 17:43:38 PM

hi george, also hand 147. you have a pretty awkward stack for play now - less than 20bbs. you raise with a10s. If you had got a caller, would you have cbet a dry flop here as usual, or - given your stack size, or perhaps gone for a funky check raise all in if the flop was superdry?


Again this play is very marginal. I probably should fold because if I get called by someone in position it"s going to be difficult to proceed with the hand without flopping something. I would probably c bet most flops and get it in/fold dependant on flop obv
Title: Re: Friday night fight- tournament in full
Post by: George2Loose on March 30, 2010, 17:44:19 PM

Just finished watching this. VWP George, Jesus you just ran over them, from final table especially. Maybe they looked so bad because you made it that way, but, for a $500 buy in tourney I was very suprised to see some shockingly bad play.
Have a few spots to pick your brains about if you get back to this George and thanks a lot for the insight.


Think esp the final was very soft. There were just so many players looking to ladder it played right into my hands