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Title: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: TightEnd on November 03, 2010, 09:48:23 AM
The APAT UK Team Championship; the final event of Season Four, will be held at the G Casino in Bolton on January 29th & 30th, 2011. 

Following on from the very successful Team Championships of the past two seasons which were won by the Bristol & South West Meetup (Season 2) and Team APAT (Season 3), this event will again feature teams of 8 players, with 50% of the prize pool plus a GUKPT Seat and National Medals going towards individual prizes, while the other 50% of the prize pool, plus the title and Championship Cup will be going towards the Team Championship.

The weekend will also feature the APAT Champion of Champions Final and the third annual APAT Poker Awards.  All of the events will be streamed live from Bolton from Friday evening onwards on APAT TV.

Teams participating will be required to provide team shirts for their players and carry a thread and banner about the event on their forum.

(http://lh6.ggpht.com/_KJLieIUxMJY/S13cJUbr2OI/AAAAAAAAhRI/k1TJ0eaiKkc/s912/IMG_4147.JPG)

Team APAT, Winner of the 2010 Team Championship


The entry fee per player will be £50, with no registration fee being charged.  The event will consist of twenty-five teams.  There will be two teams from APAT this year.  Team APAT, as defending champions will be representative of the APAT members, alongside an APAT Champions team, made up of players who have travelled from far afield to play in the APAT Champion of Champions event on the Friday night.

Please feel free to notify any other forums who you think would be interested in entering one team, and add their name to this thread, no later than Wednesday 24th November 2010.

APAT will then make a decision on entries and announce the final team list on 1st December 2010.

Full details of the event will be published shortly, but essentially it will be a two day, 10,000 chip deepstack with a 45 minute clock as with all APAT National Championship events.

(http://www.apat.com/images/billy_wallace.jpg)

Billy Wallace, Winner of the 2010 Individual Championship




This thread is for forums/clubs to apply for places in the event ONLY (there is a seperate discussion thread on this board), and to confirm agreement with the points above.

We will then inform successful teams in early December, and forums/clubs can be making plans for which players should represent them.
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: Paulie_D on November 03, 2010, 10:06:25 AM
Requests already submitted (in no particular order):

APAT Forum
APAT Champions
FurnessPoker
Chezger
Bristol & South West Poker Meetup

Punters Lounge
Hendon Mob
Pokerplayersplace
Black Country Poker Club
London Poker Meetup

blonde Poker
Elite Amateur Poker League
Eatmystack
Newcastle Poker Forum
Sky Poker Forum

Betfair Poker Forum
TNPL.
Raise The River
The Pot (Cambs)
Larry Murphys Irregulars

Hetton Social Poker League
AWOP
St Asaph Monday Night Poker League
Gambling Network Forum
NIPoker Forum
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: AMRN on November 03, 2010, 10:07:04 AM
Rich - would you just clarify please.... you mention throughout the post above that this is open to "forums".... does that specifically exclude poker clubs that do not base themselves around an online forum? (you know who I"m talking about here)

Either way, (on behalf of Mr Yates) I would like to register interest for a place for Black Country Poker Club

Thanks
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: TightEnd on November 03, 2010, 10:11:53 AM

Rich - would you just clarify please.... you mention throughout the post above that this is open to "forums".... does that specifically exclude poker clubs that do not base themselves around an online forum? (you know who I"m talking about here)

Either way, (on behalf of Mr Yates) I would like to register interest for a place for Black Country Poker Club

Thanks



will amend/forums and clubs obv
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: Newportlad on November 03, 2010, 11:09:57 AM
Hi Rich

I would like to register Blonde poker for this event.
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: duke3016 on November 03, 2010, 11:36:45 AM
Chezger will be attending, if selected, and the team will be chosen dictatorially as usual by me.
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: Curlarge on November 03, 2010, 11:38:54 AM
Hi Rich

Can I register our Elite Amateur Poker League, based in Slough in this please. We have 10 APATers in our ranks.

Cheers
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: deanp27 on November 03, 2010, 13:07:22 PM
I"ll sort a team from Eatmystack
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: teamdobb on November 03, 2010, 13:16:31 PM
NPF Newcastle Poker Forum would like to be included once again in this event and look forward to it as much as usual.
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: Des on November 03, 2010, 13:40:46 PM
Registering interest for Sky Poker Forum, Betfair Poker Forum and TNPL.
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: cincicrappykid on November 03, 2010, 14:14:04 PM

Rich - would you just clarify please.... you mention throughout the post above that this is open to "forums".... does that specifically exclude poker clubs that do not base themselves around an online forum? (you know who I"m talking about here)

Either way, (on behalf of Mr Yates) I would like to register interest for a place for Black Country Poker Club

Thanks
ME TOO PLEASE
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: Amatay on November 03, 2010, 15:28:39 PM
How do you submit a team? On this thread??

raisetheriver.com would like to have a team involved pls
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: cookiepot on November 03, 2010, 15:38:13 PM
hi all.
"THE POT" would like to play this event also....
(small poker school in cambs)

js 7s

www.the-pot.co.uk
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: cookiepot on November 03, 2010, 15:40:26 PM
the-pot.co.uk by the way...
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: cincicrappykid on November 03, 2010, 16:06:11 PM

hi all.
"THE POT" would like to play this event also....
(small poker school in cambs)

js 7s

www.the-pot.co.uk
WHERE ARE YOU GUYS BASED LOOKS LIKE A  REALLY GOOD SETUP
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: Shortstack on November 03, 2010, 16:24:45 PM
Hi, i would like to register a team if possible.
We have a poker league in our local social club in the North East of England were we get around 40 runners every Thursday.
Over the last year we have built up a following on APAT Online National League with team Sunderland (from 0 to 35+ runners) and was strongly represented in the WCOAP in Nottingham in August.
Looking to add to that experience, hope it wasnt a flash in the pan as the North East is crying out for decent events with such as yourselves.

http://hettonsocialpokerleague.weebly.com/

Most of the Online League Team Sunderland play there. Craig Johnson who come 2nd At the APAT Omaha event in August at DTD plays with us aswell.

We would love to get a team into this as we followed the NPF last year in this event and would create awesome banter on the day with us being from Sunderland and what not.
We already have "Hetton Pit Yacker" T shirts that we wear when we goto local casinos.  ;)

We would relish the chance to prove that pub poker does not just consist of a bunch of donks as Pub Poker gets a bad press. We would be looking at taking this down if we had a spot.
Our results speak for themselves

Nice one and hope for good news.

Cheers
Al.
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: NoCash on November 03, 2010, 20:00:07 PM
Like to register interest for aworldofpoker.com (AWOP) if possible

Thanks
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: tumblet on November 03, 2010, 21:00:43 PM
St Asaph Monday Night Poker League would also be interested in entering a team....

Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: Swinebag on November 03, 2010, 23:25:06 PM
I"m pretty sure the original thread was started by Matt from GNF (Gambling network Forum).

As it is not on the OP list, I would like to put forward team GNF for the team championship....please!
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: Marty719 on November 04, 2010, 07:30:26 AM
NIPoker forum (www.riverbox.co.uk) would like to make the trip.
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: snipsanator on November 04, 2010, 16:55:40 PM
First post :)

Could I please enter a team from CrushPoker.com ?

Many thanks,

Christian Harris
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: Kronsdat on November 04, 2010, 19:42:57 PM
NIPoker forum (www.riverbox.co.uk) would like to make the trip.

That would be great Marty.  Would be good to meet up with you guys again.  (Brian from "Raise the River").
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: shug on November 05, 2010, 18:01:32 PM
thanks for putting Larry Murphy`s Poker forum in but would like to delete the irregulars tag that seems to have been added.  We are all regular drinkers
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: duke3016 on November 05, 2010, 18:13:03 PM

thanks for putting Larry Murphy`s Poker forum in but would like to delete the irregulars tag that seems to have been added.  We are all regular drinkers


I can vouch for that  ;D
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: BULLDOG235 on November 05, 2010, 20:09:27 PM
please can i enter a team for Voyage in Poker please
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: PantsMan on November 06, 2010, 01:15:58 AM
Does this mean we will finally get a different picture on the front page rather than the APAT team winning? Seeing as there have been loads of winners of various APAT events since. Including ex player Liv Boeree!  ;)
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: SirPercival on November 06, 2010, 09:58:12 AM

Does this mean we will finally get a different picture on the front page rather than the APAT team winning? Seeing as there have been loads of winners of various APAT events since. Including ex player Liv Boeree!  ;)


but we are better on the eye than Liv  ;D
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: Swinebag on November 06, 2010, 10:23:13 AM


hi all.
"THE POT" would like to play this event also....
(small poker school in cambs)

js 7s

www.the-pot.co.uk
WHERE ARE YOU GUYS BASED LOOKS LIKE A  REALLY GOOD SETUP


are you throwing one in there tony?
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: furnesspoker on November 06, 2010, 11:58:32 AM
Looking forward to this event more than ever, (If we get picked)
Also a GREAT venue choice, I think they also have a bar, rumour has it ;)
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: RobGibraltar on November 06, 2010, 13:16:55 PM

Looking forward to this event more than ever, (If we get picked)
Also a GREAT venue choice, I think they also have a bar, rumour has it ;)


a bar you say?

In for the hendon mob
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: furnesspoker on November 06, 2010, 17:43:44 PM


Looking forward to this event more than ever, (If we get picked)
Also a GREAT venue choice, I think they also have a bar, rumour has it ;)


a bar you say?

In for the hendon mob

Don"t you mean ALL in :D
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: blowfly on November 06, 2010, 22:01:28 PM
I notice there"s an APAT Forum and APAT Champs team. Given that there are a growing number of good female players among the APAT regulars I wondered if you would consider having a APAT ladies team? I"m sure we"d do you proud!
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: AMRN on November 06, 2010, 22:10:45 PM

I notice there"s an APAT Forum and APAT Champs team. Given that there are a growing number of good female players among the APAT regulars I wondered if you would consider having a APAT ladies team? I"m sure we"d do you proud!


Well if that happens, I think that balance would need to be retained with an APAT Mens team.... but that would cause uproar and accusations of sexism.




stir stir stir
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: blowfly on November 06, 2010, 22:42:10 PM


I notice there"s an APAT Forum and APAT Champs team. Given that there are a growing number of good female players among the APAT regulars I wondered if you would consider having a APAT ladies team? I"m sure we"d do you proud!


Well if that happens, I think that balance would need to be retained with an APAT Mens team.... but that would cause uproar and accusations of sexism.




stir stir stir


That"s my point though Steve - the APAT team(s) are already men only teams - there"d be uproar if a girl was picked over all you deserving chaps! It"s a fun event that needs a woman"s touch IMHO!  :-*
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: AMRN on November 06, 2010, 22:46:45 PM



I notice there"s an APAT Forum and APAT Champs team. Given that there are a growing number of good female players among the APAT regulars I wondered if you would consider having a APAT ladies team? I"m sure we"d do you proud!


Well if that happens, I think that balance would need to be retained with an APAT Mens team.... but that would cause uproar and accusations of sexism.




stir stir stir


That"s my point though Steve - the APAT team(s) are already men only teams - there"d be uproar if a girl was picked over all you deserving chaps! It"s a fun event that needs a woman"s touch IMHO!  :-*


not so sure about that Debs
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: blowfly on November 06, 2010, 22:58:05 PM


not so sure about that Debs


Last years team was all male so unless I"ve missed something about previous years or there"s a female shoe in for this year I"m confused by that ...
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: Jon MW on November 06, 2010, 23:06:35 PM



I notice there"s an APAT Forum and APAT Champs team. Given that there are a growing number of good female players among the APAT regulars I wondered if you would consider having a APAT ladies team? I"m sure we"d do you proud!


Well if that happens, I think that balance would need to be retained with an APAT Mens team.... but that would cause uproar and accusations of sexism.




stir stir stir


That"s my point though Steve - the APAT team(s) are already men only teams - there"d be uproar if a girl was picked over all you deserving chaps! It"s a fun event that needs a woman"s touch IMHO!  :-*


Equality generally means equality of opportunity, not equality of outcome.

Having said that, I"m not against the idea of an APAT Ladies team though
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: Claw75 on November 06, 2010, 23:09:55 PM



not so sure about that Debs


Last years team was all male so unless I"ve missed something about previous years or there"s a female shoe in for this year I"m confused by that ...


No one is a shoe-in, male or female, and the criteria have yet to be decided for this year I imagine.  I"d hate to be picked for a team as a token woman, but still intend to apply to represent the APAT team this year, but will make my case based on my ability and results, same as everyone else.  There"s a very high chance that the team will end up being all male, but that doesn"t mean it"s not open. 

sorry i know i said i"d keep my views on this to myself, but I do feel pretty strongly about it and can"t help myself.  If it does go ahead though I wish you all the best of luck!
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: AMRN on November 06, 2010, 23:12:30 PM



not so sure about that Debs


Last years team was all male so unless I"ve missed something about previous years or there"s a female shoe in for this year I"m confused by that ...


coincidental. I don"t believe Leigh stipulated that selection was based on gender.
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: blowfly on November 06, 2010, 23:21:43 PM


coincidental. I don"t believe Leigh stipulated that selection was based on gender.


Agree - coincidental.

I realise I may really regret even starting this conversation if it goes on much further! The ladies in APAT are outnumbered (fact not a moan). We prefer playing to railing (again fact not moan). We are not bra burning feminists trying to make a point - just wanted to participate in an event we might not otherwise get chance to - granted perhaps "cos we don"t get the results to warrant a place. It was just a fun suggestion - if it gets anywhere close to being anything other than that I will withdraw my request to APAT to consider our team - not worth it. This is NOT a political issue for us!  :(
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: TightEnd on November 07, 2010, 02:06:12 AM
Once the APAT forum captain is appointed he or she will appoint the team. Gender of the 8 players is irrelevant, he or she will be asked to pick the best team for the purposes of representing the APAT forum well and defending their title

Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: MAIR on November 07, 2010, 08:08:00 AM
I have posted on the ladies thread, but to have a woman"s team would be gr8 for the girls not for oh we wanna be better than the men, just so we get an opportunity to play in this prestigious event.

Due to the huge percentage of men to women it is very difficult to be selected for a team and a lot do get overlooked and if one is not a member of all those forums out there who are applying to play in the event then the chances of getting on a team are much smaller.

I am with Debs on this that it is in no way about equality its about an opportunity for the ladies to take part in the event, a team made up of women who genuinely want an opportunity to play.
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: cincicrappykid on November 07, 2010, 08:51:19 AM



coincidental. I don"t believe Leigh stipulated that selection was based on gender.


Agree - coincidental.

I realise I may really regret even starting this conversation if it goes on much further! The ladies in APAT are outnumbered (fact not a moan). We prefer playing to railing (again fact not moan). We are not bra burning feminists trying to make a point - just wanted to participate in an event we might not otherwise get chance to - granted perhaps "cos we don"t get the results to warrant a place. It was just a fun suggestion - if it gets anywhere close to being anything other than that I will withdraw my request to APAT to consider our team - not worth it. This is NOT a political issue for us!  :(


Can i enter a team for people who have blond hair and wear glasses as we are out numberd too ;D
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: maxine4matt on November 07, 2010, 09:08:03 AM
since when was ur hair blond tone lol xx so im all for a ladies team and if it gets off the ground i hope they do brilliant xxx
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: SirPercival on November 07, 2010, 09:09:56 AM



coincidental. I don"t believe Leigh stipulated that selection was based on gender.


Agree - coincidental.

I realise I may really regret even starting this conversation if it goes on much further! The ladies in APAT are outnumbered (fact not a moan). We prefer playing to railing (again fact not moan). We are not bra burning feminists trying to make a point - just wanted to participate in an event we might not otherwise get chance to - granted perhaps "cos we don"t get the results to warrant a place. It was just a fun suggestion - if it gets anywhere close to being anything other than that I will withdraw my request to APAT to consider our team - not worth it. This is NOT a political issue for us!  :(


If this is the reason then why not suggest an APAT "B" team?
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: MAIR on November 07, 2010, 09:34:58 AM
Stuart u r very wise, a very good idea :)
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: SirPercival on November 07, 2010, 10:03:12 AM

Stuart u r very wise, a very good idea :)


Either you have missed my point, or you are being sarcastic, I"m not sure which.

I don"t think a "B" team is a good idea at all and I wasn"t suggesting it. There are so many teams that want to play this event I think having 3 APAT teams would be unfair on others than want to have the APAT experience.

My point is that if the reason Debs proposed a laddies team was because she "wanted to participate in an event she might not otherwise get a chance to" then why pick gender as the qualifying criteria?

We don"t (or at least I don"t) know what the qualifying criteria for the APAT team is yet but I"m pretty sure gender isn"t going to be one of them. Last year for example 2 places were picked by a random draw by Leigh's girlfriend, I guess laddies were included in the mix as well as men. I believe a similar method was used for the Betfair freeroll (to which I didn"t get picked). If this years poker results are a criteria then I am pretty sure you (Mary) will be in will a very good chance of being picked above most of the other APAT players given your UKIPT success.

I"m not going to fall out with anyone about this (as I"m not that sort of person) but I am going to express my views (as I am that sort of person).

I am all for equality and fairness. Having a team where the entry criteria is based on gender is not equal for all or fair.
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: Claw75 on November 07, 2010, 10:06:09 AM

Stuart u r very wise, a very good idea :)


I think it would be a great idea if there weren"t already many more teams wanting to take part than spaces.  And there"s still no guarantee (or perhaps even likelihood) that any women would be selected for the B team.  If it wasn"t for the popularity of this event I"d have absolutely no problem with APAT entering as many teams as they wanted - let"s have a team for ethnic minorities and over 50s, whatever.

The nub of it, for me, is that the event is designed so that different poker communities/forums can take part in playing against each other, with some element of pride in the community they are representing.  The fact of the matter is that the vast majority of APAT members won"t have the opportunity to play, regardless of gender.  Allowing APAT to enter an additional team will only be taking those places away from another community keen to take part.  I realise that argument can be applied to the CoC team too, but there seem to be very good reasons for the creation of that team.

I have wanted to play in these team events since they started but have never made my chosen team.  I"m far from alone in that, and I don"t see why I should be given a special opportunity to play, at the expense of someone else, just because I"m a woman.  I don"t think it"s accurate to say that women don"t get the same opportunity as men to take part though - there were plenty in previous years" fields as I recall, and I wouldn"t be surprised if the ratio of women to men taking part was in line with the membership as a whole.
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: RobGibraltar on November 07, 2010, 10:36:12 AM
Fair be dammed, it"s APAT's event so if they want to have 5 teams they can do, and we can either like it or "suck it up, buttercup" (I think the expression is). Teams are invited, it"s a privilege not a right and the mob forum have always felt honoured to be regular invitees.
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: bigalhx3 on November 07, 2010, 11:51:41 AM




not so sure about that Debs


Last years team was all male so unless I"ve missed something about previous years or there"s a female shoe in for this year I"m confused by that ...


No one is a shoe-in, male or female, and the criteria have yet to be decided for this year I imagine.  I"d hate to be picked for a team as a token woman, but still intend to apply to represent the APAT team this year, but will make my case based on my ability and results, same as everyone else.  There"s a very high chance that the team will end up being all male, but that doesn"t mean it"s not open. 

sorry i know i said i"d keep my views on this to myself, but I do feel pretty strongly about it and can"t help myself.  If it does go ahead though I wish you all the best of luck!


well said
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: bigalhx3 on November 07, 2010, 11:58:57 AM

and if one is not a member of all those forums out there who are applying to play in the event then the chances of getting on a team are much smaller.


i think thats the hole point mary you do have to be a member to be in the teams
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: TightEnd on November 07, 2010, 12:02:02 PM


Stuart u r very wise, a very good idea :)


I think it would be a great idea if there weren"t already many more teams wanting to take part than spaces.  And there"s still no guarantee (or perhaps even likelihood) that any women would be selected for the B team.  If it wasn"t for the popularity of this event I"d have absolutely no problem with APAT entering as many teams as they wanted - let"s have a team for ethnic minorities and over 50s, whatever.

The nub of it, for me, is that the event is designed so that different poker communities/forums can take part in playing against each other, with some element of pride in the community they are representing.  The fact of the matter is that the vast majority of APAT members won"t have the opportunity to play, regardless of gender.  Allowing APAT to enter an additional team will only be taking those places away from another community keen to take part.  I realise that argument can be applied to the CoC team too, but there seem to be very good reasons for the creation of that team.

I have wanted to play in these team events since they started but have never made my chosen team.  I"m far from alone in that, and I don"t see why I should be given a special opportunity to play, at the expense of someone else, just because I"m a woman.  I don"t think it"s accurate to say that women don"t get the same opportunity as men to take part though - there were plenty in previous years" fields as I recall, and I wouldn"t be surprised if the ratio of women to men taking part was in line with the membership as a whole.


This is exactly my line, better expressed than I did!

Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: Jon MW on November 07, 2010, 12:15:12 PM
I have no problem with the concept but every team entered represents a community of some sort. The only community that binds together all it"s members would be APAT, so however you described it and whatever you called it, a ladies team would be an APAT Ladies Team; i.e. a third APAT team, and if we tried we could probably find ten of those to fill.

As Rob suggested, it"s their tournament and they can invite whichever teams they want to play it - but I don"t really see how it would be in APAT's best interest to have a third team rather than any other community"s team.
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: MintTrav on November 07, 2010, 13:28:15 PM

Last year for example 2 places were picked by a random draw by Leigh's girlfriend


Strange way to pick a team. May be how I got in, for all I know, but can"t see a justification for allocating such otherwise hotly-contested team places on this basis.
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: Chipaccrual on November 07, 2010, 13:43:09 PM


Last year for example 2 places were picked by a random draw by Leigh's girlfriend


Strange way to pick a team. May be how I got in, for all I know, but can"t see a justification for allocating such otherwise hotly-contested team places on this basis.


I hope no one would consider that I just gave away seats to anyone in last years team.  I laid out what I hoped was a clear a fair method for my selection of the team, and bearing in mind the team was representing APAT, I always stated that at least one of the seats would be a random selection from everyone that showed an interest in playing, so irrelevant of APAT experience, success, involvement in the APAT community, anyone who was interested at least had a chance of being in the team.

Originally this was going to be for two seats, but when we had to reduce the teams from 10 to 8 players, that simply wasn"t possible, whoever, I stuck to my commitment as best I could and did one random pick.

To this day that person doesn"t know they were a random pick, and they never will.  Everyone in the team deserved to be there, and I would say that about any of the 50+ members that showed an interest.

At one point last year, I even talked about being a non-playing captain so that I could fit someone else into the team, but had that one batted away by Des.  (He clearly knows nothignn of my poker abilities, but we won anyway  ;) )

Whoever we invite to captain the APAT Forum team has got a very tough job on their hands.  They want to pick a team to retain the title, but at the same time I think it is important to have a team that fully represents APAT.  I don"t mean regarding age, gender or geographical location.  I refer to what APAT is about, and that is more than just winners, it"s the community, the friendships and the general good nature that is present in our structure.

But an even harder job than picking a team or retaining the title could be in then getting the trophy from Des.  ;)
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: Chipaccrual on November 07, 2010, 13:48:24 PM
And one other point.  We had a long discussion in Luton regarding the winning team last year and whether they should be able to defend their title.

My opinion was that the players represented "Team APAT", and it would only be right for every member to have that opportunity to play in the team this year.

I have spoken to a number of the guys from last year, and explained the situation and my reasoning for it.  They are obviously disappointed about it, as it is a great event to play in.

Sorry guys, I genuinely hope some of you get selected this year, but whoever represents the APAT forum will, I"m sure, do us proud.
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: SirPercival on November 07, 2010, 14:20:51 PM

And one other point.  We had a long discussion in Luton regarding the winning team last year and whether they should be able to defend their title.

My opinion was that the players represented "Team APAT", and it would only be right for every member to have that opportunity to play in the team this year.

I have spoken to a number of the guys from last year, and explained the situation and my reasoning for it.  They are obviously disappointed about it, as it is a great event to play in.

Sorry guys, I genuinely hope some of you get selected this year, but whoever represents the APAT forum will, I"m sure, do us proud.


If I have understood this correctly Leigh you are saying that the team this year will not be the same team as last year but all last years players have the same right as all other members to apply for a place?




p.s. For the record I am happy to be playing captain, non-playing captain, player or supporter.

p.p.s. Can I at least borrow the trophy from last year?
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: Waz1892 on November 07, 2010, 14:44:16 PM



Last year for example 2 places were picked by a random draw by Leigh's girlfriend


Strange way to pick a team. May be how I got in, for all I know, but can"t see a justification for allocating such otherwise hotly-contested team places on this basis.


Whoever we invite to captain the APAT Forum team has got a very tough job on their hands.  They want to pick a team to retain the title, but at the same time I think it is important to have a team that fully represents APAT.  I don"t mean regarding age, gender or geographical location.  I refer to what APAT is about, and that is more than just winners, it"s the community, the friendships and the general good nature that is present in our structure.But an even harder job than picking a team or retaining the title could be in then getting the trophy from Des.  ;)


without this approach, APAT could become very elite-est for this type of tournament. :-\
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: Chipaccrual on November 07, 2010, 15:58:03 PM


And one other point.  We had a long discussion in Luton regarding the winning team last year and whether they should be able to defend their title.

My opinion was that the players represented "Team APAT", and it would only be right for every member to have that opportunity to play in the team this year.

I have spoken to a number of the guys from last year, and explained the situation and my reasoning for it.  They are obviously disappointed about it, as it is a great event to play in.

Sorry guys, I genuinely hope some of you get selected this year, but whoever represents the APAT forum will, I"m sure, do us proud.


If I have understood this correctly Leigh you are saying that the team this year will not be the same team as last year but all last years players have the same right as all other members to apply for a place?




p.s. For the record I am happy to be playing captain, non-playing captain, player or supporter.

p.p.s. Can I at least borrow the trophy from last year?


Spot on Stuart.  It couldn"t be done any other way.  It will be down to the captain as to how they choose to select the team, but everyone should be entitled to put themselves forward to selection.
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: SirPercival on November 07, 2010, 16:11:46 PM



And one other point.  We had a long discussion in Luton regarding the winning team last year and whether they should be able to defend their title.

My opinion was that the players represented "Team APAT", and it would only be right for every member to have that opportunity to play in the team this year.

I have spoken to a number of the guys from last year, and explained the situation and my reasoning for it.  They are obviously disappointed about it, as it is a great event to play in.

Sorry guys, I genuinely hope some of you get selected this year, but whoever represents the APAT forum will, I"m sure, do us proud.


If I have understood this correctly Leigh you are saying that the team this year will not be the same team as last year but all last years players have the same right as all other members to apply for a place?




p.s. For the record I am happy to be playing captain, non-playing captain, player or supporter.

p.p.s. Can I at least borrow the trophy from last year?


Spot on Stuart.  It couldn"t be done any other way.  It will be down to the captain as to how they choose to select the team, but everyone should be entitled to put themselves forward to selection.


Excellent.

Now, about that trophy............
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: Jon MW on November 07, 2010, 16:12:16 PM
Black Belt Poker would be interested in entering a team as well
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: Paulie_D on November 07, 2010, 16:16:37 PM


Whoever we invite to captain the APAT Forum team has got a very tough job on their hands.  They want to pick a team to retain the title, but at the same time I think it is important to have a team that fully represents APAT.  I don"t mean regarding age, gender or geographical location.  I refer to what APAT is about, and that is more than just winners, it"s the community, the friendships and the general good nature that is present in our structure.



Despite other opportunities to play in other teams I would be honoured to be selected and so wish to throw my name into the mix.

Paulie
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: cashman on November 07, 2010, 16:44:25 PM
when the team have been chosen, how is the captain/team members chosen?
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: Chipaccrual on November 07, 2010, 16:52:05 PM

when the team have been chosen, how is the captain/team members chosen?


If you are referring to the APAT teams, we will select a worthwhile captain for the forum team and then they will post a thread regarding team selection.

As far as the APAT champions team goes, this is aimed at those players travelling a distance for the Fridau night game.  Tighty and I will approach those players in as fairest a way as possible.


As far as other teams go, they have many selection methods from that"s the team, now lump it, to running qualifying tournaments.  Each to their own.
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: jaysdad on November 07, 2010, 17:50:02 PM
LOL looks like every other team has an advantage as long as they have harmony in there team lol  :-*
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: MAIR on November 07, 2010, 18:01:47 PM
Stuart I was not being sarcastic, only that it if there was a B team, then more chance of players being selected for both teams, so 16 picks instead of 8 and I personally thought that wasnt too bad an idea.

Im sorry if it appeared that way.

I think I will bow out of these discussions, very much different perspectives from everyone, which has turned into a huge debate, and I know that Debs was only trying to just gather a team of ladies together to hopefully be selected just like other forums and clubs.
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: MintTrav on November 07, 2010, 18:27:09 PM

And one other point.  We had a long discussion in Luton regarding the winning team last year and whether they should be able to defend their title.

My opinion was that the players represented "Team APAT", and it would only be right for every member to have that opportunity to play in the team this year.

I have spoken to a number of the guys from last year, and explained the situation and my reasoning for it.  They are obviously disappointed about it, as it is a great event to play in.

Sorry guys, I genuinely hope some of you get selected this year, but whoever represents the APAT forum will, I"m sure, do us proud.


Definitely the right decision.
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: duke3016 on November 07, 2010, 18:35:22 PM

that"s the team, now lump it


If Chezger are lucky enough to get a place, this is the preferred method of selection (according to the CEO)
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: Swinebag on November 07, 2010, 18:44:53 PM
Read this thread with interest

Ladies team - thought this was a response to Larry Murphys (LOL) putting forward a request for a team

the argument that ladies are in a minority and having their own team is a way of redressing the balance, is flawed. I"m pretty sure there will be more male players than female players who want to play and end up not playing.

I"m also pretty sure that the ratio of disappointed males to disappointed females will be pretty similar to the ratio of males playing to females that end up playing.

Last year there were plenty of teams that had female representation and I"m pretty sure this year will be no different and Last years APAT team not having a female player seemed to be an exception rather than a rule.
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: RobGibraltar on November 07, 2010, 19:39:33 PM


that"s the team, now lump it


If Chezger are lucky enough to get a place, this is the preferred method of selection (according to the CEO)


This is indeed a strong influence in the mob team too...
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: RobGibraltar on November 07, 2010, 21:42:32 PM
when are teams being announced? (ie those being invited to play)
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: Chipaccrual on November 07, 2010, 21:48:00 PM

when are teams being announced? (ie those being invited to play)


Closing date for entries is 24th November 2010.

Teams should be announced 1st December 2010.
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: Jon MW on November 07, 2010, 21:48:46 PM

...

Please feel free to notify any other forums who you think would be interested in entering one team, and add their name to this thread, no later than Wednesday 24th November 2010.

APAT will then make a decision on entries and announce the final team list on 1st December 2010.

...


EDIT: dammit too slow
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: Des on November 07, 2010, 23:29:42 PM

LOL looks like every other team has an advantage as long as they have harmony in there team lol  :-*


No disharmony, only debate and that is the APAT way.
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: rudders on November 07, 2010, 23:31:44 PM
The welsh poker forum would like to enter a team please
NB This is a predominantly bar based team
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: Amatay on November 08, 2010, 03:12:56 AM
Can i ask on what basis teams will be selected? Theres going to be 25 teams yeh? I guess that more than 25 teams are interested in attending this event?
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: TightEnd on November 08, 2010, 12:35:44 PM
25 teams and yes it looks like more than 25 will want to attend

A couple of aims really. We want to include those communities who have supported APAT all year, whether by promoting us on forum or at club, providing players to events etc etc

One of the objectives of this tournament in particular is also to drive interest and membership in APAT across all poker communities, too, so newer organisations and smaller groupings are not excluded too

Whilst you would expect us to want to include the bigger forums/clubs...after all they can help APAT grow and get its messages across, in no way will the selection be elitist or sizeist. If you"ve been publically supporting APAT all year as a group, then I hope we"d do our best to help you in.

Sadly though it is likely some will be disappointed..that"s a function of the size of UK venues really,  DTD apart.
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: ian.ski309 on November 08, 2010, 16:22:45 PM
There are a number of threads now on the subject of the Team Championships which seem to contain conflicting information.

On the one hand, there won"t be an APAT B Team or an APAT ladies Team because  "...we"re committed to two APAT teams only to allow as many other organisations in as possible," but on the other hand there are sure to be at least half a dozen teams involved which will consist of eight APAT regulars.

Are these not the APAT B, C, D, E, F and G teams in all but name, just playing under a different banner ?



Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: spudgun007 on November 08, 2010, 16:39:27 PM
Hello
I have had a nose around but cannot find any details about the team champs in January

are the teams all ready selected or can I add a team, could i have some info please

thanks

mick
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: Des on November 08, 2010, 16:41:28 PM

There are a number of threads now on the subject of the Team Championships which seem to contain conflicting information.

On the one hand, there won"t be an APAT B Team or an APAT ladies Team because  "...we"re committed to two APAT teams only to allow as many other organisations in as possible," but on the other hand there are sure to be at least half a dozen teams involved which will consist of eight APAT regulars.

Are these not the APAT B, C, D, E, F and G teams in all but name, just playing under a different banner ?






No.
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: Jon MW on November 08, 2010, 18:16:18 PM
I doubt there will be that many teams consisting solely of APAT regulars.

There will probably be quite a few with at least 5 or 6 who post on here regularly but that"s because people come to APAT from somewhere else but then get involved here as well as their "usual" forum/community.
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: Raggie Maggie on November 08, 2010, 19:49:49 PM
Hello

Can I ask that LivePubPokerLeague (LPPL) be considered for the team event.

LPPL is a Nationwide League with venues across the UK.  There are a number of us who have played in APAT past and current events. 

Thanks
Maggie
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: TightEnd on November 09, 2010, 12:03:51 PM
Requests already submitted (in no particular order):

APAT Forum
APAT Champions
FurnessPoker
Chezger
Bristol & South West Poker Meetup

Punters Lounge
Hendon Mob
Pokerplayersplace
Black Country Poker Club
London Poker Meetup

blonde Poker
Elite Amateur Poker League
Eatmystack
Newcastle Poker Forum
Sky Poker Forum

Betfair Poker Forum
TNPL.
Raise The River
The Pot (Cambs)
Larry Murphys Irregulars

Hetton Social Poker League
AWOP
St Asaph Monday Night Poker League
Gambling Network Forum
NIPoker Forum

BlackBelt Poker
Welsh Poker Forum
LivePubPokerLeague
VoyageinPoker
LBPN
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: Mikeyboy9361 on November 09, 2010, 13:56:30 PM
Doesn"t seem much chance of my team request being selected, when they don"t even make the preliminary shortlist. LBPN for the win!   ;)
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: Amatay on November 09, 2010, 15:06:59 PM

25 teams and yes it looks like more than 25 will want to attend

A couple of aims really. We want to include those communities who have supported APAT all year, whether by promoting us on forum or at club, providing players to events etc etc

One of the objectives of this tournament in particular is also to drive interest and membership in APAT across all poker communities, too, so newer organisations and smaller groupings are not excluded too

Whilst you would expect us to want to include the bigger forums/clubs...after all they can help APAT grow and get its messages across, in no way will the selection be elitist or sizeist. If you"ve been publically supporting APAT all year as a group, then I hope we"d do our best to help you in.

Sadly though it is likely some will be disappointed..that"s a function of the size of UK venues really,  DTD apart.


Cheers Rich. When will a decision be made?
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: TightEnd on November 09, 2010, 15:24:45 PM


25 teams and yes it looks like more than 25 will want to attend

A couple of aims really. We want to include those communities who have supported APAT all year, whether by promoting us on forum or at club, providing players to events etc etc

One of the objectives of this tournament in particular is also to drive interest and membership in APAT across all poker communities, too, so newer organisations and smaller groupings are not excluded too

Whilst you would expect us to want to include the bigger forums/clubs...after all they can help APAT grow and get its messages across, in no way will the selection be elitist or sizeist. If you"ve been publically supporting APAT all year as a group, then I hope we"d do our best to help you in.

Sadly though it is likely some will be disappointed..that"s a function of the size of UK venues really,  DTD apart.


Cheers Rich. When will a decision be made?



to be announced 1st Dec.
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: Ascot on November 09, 2010, 19:58:46 PM
Er .... A few days ago Bulldog asked for the Voyage in Poker forum to be included, but it aint on the list .....
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: AJDUK on November 09, 2010, 21:01:22 PM

There are a number of threads now on the subject of the Team Championships which seem to contain conflicting information.

On the one hand, there won"t be an APAT B Team or an APAT ladies Team because  "...we"re committed to two APAT teams only to allow as many other organisations in as possible," but on the other hand there are sure to be at least half a dozen teams involved which will consist of eight APAT regulars.

Are these not the APAT B, C, D, E, F and G teams in all but name, just playing under a different banner ?


Even the BCPC team, which most probably think of as an APAT sub-team, has a number of players that don"t play APAT live events but could be included on the team. It certainly was the case last year, and I don"t have any reason to think it won"t be the case this year.
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: mike saban on November 09, 2010, 21:06:12 PM
I would like Ace of Clubs to be considered for selection please.
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: blowfly on November 09, 2010, 22:48:03 PM
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: TheSnapper on November 09, 2010, 23:38:36 PM
Nice post Deb, I think an all Ladies team would be a great addition to the event.

I"d also like to add to the list of problems you Gals face. As I see it, I really don"t think lady players get a fair crack at selection. Its not that theres anything sinister about it rather an automatic tendancy to underestimate any particular Ladies skills out of hand.

GL with it and you have my vote fwiw ;D
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: AJDUK on November 10, 2010, 00:19:18 AM
Interesting that the Larry Murphys team is still listed on the request list despite having been earlier dismissed in the same breath as the ladies team, yet the ladies team isn"t listed. Poor form.
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: MAIR on November 10, 2010, 00:25:51 AM

Interesting that the Larry Murphys team is still listed on the request list despite having been earlier dismissed in the same breath as the ladies team, yet the ladies team isn"t listed. Poor form.


+1

And also gr8 post Debs xx
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: Swinebag on November 10, 2010, 00:26:50 AM
top post Debs. You certainly put a brilliant case for the ladies team.
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: Jon MW on November 10, 2010, 06:21:09 AM

Interesting that the Larry Murphys team is still listed on the request list despite having been earlier dismissed in the same breath as the ladies team, yet the ladies team isn"t listed. Poor form.


I noticed that and thought it was a bit odd.

I think they"ve either both got a (slim) chance, so both should be on the list - or they"ve both effectively been dismissed, in which case neither should.

Personally I"m more inclined to think it should be the latter, but it is a bit incongruous that it"s neither.
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: TightEnd on November 10, 2010, 10:10:34 AM
People are being ever so slightly precious here, if I may be controversial.

There"s no slight intended to any potential team, about 5 teams have said that they haven"t been included in the list, which in each case is an oversight and no more than that


I hope this is now accurate. Entries remain open

Requests already submitted (in no particular order):

APAT Forum
APAT Champions
FurnessPoker
Chezger
Bristol & South West Poker Meetup

Punters Lounge
Hendon Mob
Pokerplayersplace
Black Country Poker Club
London Poker Meetup

blonde Poker
Elite Amateur Poker League
Eatmystack
Newcastle Poker Forum
Sky Poker Forum

Betfair Poker Forum
TNPL.
Raise The River
The Pot (Cambs)
Larry Murphys Irregulars

Hetton Social Poker League
AWOP
St Asaph Monday Night Poker League
Gambling Network Forum
NIPoker Forum

BlackBelt Poker
Welsh Poker Forum
LivePubPokerLeague
VoyageinPoker
LBPN

Blowfly Ladies
Aces of Clubs

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Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: Des on November 10, 2010, 10:41:13 AM
Debs I suggest you and your proposed team start a thread on the Women"s Poker Forum; having discussed with their admin, and then you are operating within the APAT guidelines for submitting a team. 

I would be surprised if you have a number of international players who want to come and play, but you may get other UK ladies outside of your immediate group, who do apply to be part of your team.  That"s good, as it promotes APAT to new players and ultimately we"re here to give a very good experience for a low buy in to everyone.  Ultimately it will be your decision as team captain as to who plays in the Women In Poker team. 

There is no guarantee whatsoever that this approach will get you through, however it would be a legitimate application and that means you"re in with a shot. 

Larry Murphy"s on the other hand, is extremely unlikely to get through based on current guidelines.
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: teamdobb on November 10, 2010, 18:48:07 PM
good luck in your thankless task of choosing from an ever increasing list and then handling the next debate ;)
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: daveyb147 on November 10, 2010, 18:55:19 PM
Without meaning to sound patronising,some women do feel intimidated playing poker in a mainly male dominated enviroment and a chance to play in a team with other ladies maybe an ideal chance to encourage them to attend more apat events in the future.Not only those selected but others who may watch live updates etc.We all know apat is very female friendly and this could be a chance to show that.
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: Claw75 on November 10, 2010, 20:01:57 PM

Without meaning to sound patronising,some women do feel intimidated playing poker in a mainly male dominated enviroment and a chance to play in a team with other ladies maybe an ideal chance to encourage them to attend more apat events in the future.Not only those selected but others who may watch live updates etc.We all know apat is very female friendly and this could be a chance to show that.


not sure how that would apply here.  yes there are some women who may feel intimidated by a mainly male environment (I know I wouldn"t have wanted to go and play poker on  my own when i first started out), but this event won"t be any different from many others in that regard, and the women looking to be on the team are all experienced players afaik.

Women"s only tournaments have a part to play here for the nervous newbie, and it"s one of the reasons I don"t have a problem with them, although I know quite a few do.
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: daveyb147 on November 10, 2010, 20:34:02 PM


Without meaning to sound patronising,some women do feel intimidated playing poker in a mainly male dominated enviroment and a chance to play in a team with other ladies maybe an ideal chance to encourage them to attend more apat events in the future.Not only those selected but others who may watch live updates etc.We all know apat is very female friendly and this could be a chance to show that.


not sure how that would apply here.  yes there are some women who may feel intimidated by a mainly male environment (I know I wouldn"t have wanted to go and play poker on  my own when i first started out), but this event won"t be any different from many others in that regard, and the women looking to be on the team are all experienced players afaik.

Women"s only tournaments have a part to play here for the nervous newbie, and it"s one of the reasons I don"t have a problem with them, although I know quite a few do.




Well we all know women stick together and im sure every woman out there would be watching the updates and cheering on the ladies.I was just thinking that it would show women that are nervous about playing live that there are plenty of females who are involved with apat and therefore may encourage them to come along.I recently pursuaded a female friend to attend the luton event and was quite amazed how intimidating it was for her.She is now an apat regular online and has bought a seat for coventry.Previously she had only ever played once live.
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: shug on November 10, 2010, 21:24:28 PM

just posted this on the ladies team thread but thought i should share it here as well

Sorry guys I seem to have started the ultimate fall guys for the APAT team championships.  Larry Murphys was started to try to take part in, and support, the team competition and we followed the rules that we were told that it should come through a forum. We thought a group of guys who had performed well in the live events(4 out of the top 10 in the  recent rankings) might deserve a shot at entering a team. It was not meant to become the example of what not to do. I would happily withdrawn any nomination if it was causing hassle to the organisers   I enjoy the APAT events and just wanted to play in another.  :"(
Can I start a select Shug for Scotland campaign without upsetting anyone  ;)

Shug  



Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: Des on November 10, 2010, 21:44:12 PM
lol..good post Shug and believe me if we could get everyone who wanted to participate in this event in, we"d be very happy. 

The Team event is also the one event where we look to get APAT a bit of promotion across the various UK communities and the Larry Murphy"s forum is very short on posts at the moment!  I nearly joined though and good luck with it if you keep it going!!
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: jaysdad on November 11, 2010, 14:24:54 PM
Cant really remember how many teams there was last year. Is there no way the casino could fit any more that 200player?
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: TightEnd on November 11, 2010, 14:52:42 PM

Cant really remember how many teams there was last year. Is there no way the casino could fit any more that 200player?



DTD apart, there is hardly a UK venue that will fit 200 in.

Last year from memory there were 20 8 man/woman teams=160

So this year is good, compared to last.


(these were the 20


A World Of Poker
Ace Of Clubs
Amateur Poker Association & Tour
Black Country Poker Club
Blonde Poker
Bristol & South West Meetup - Defending Champions
Chezger
Eat My Stack
FISO
Furness Poker
London Poker Meetup
Newcastle Poker Forum
NI Poker
Poker Player
Punters Lounge
Raise The River
Sky Poker
The Hendon Mob
UK Poker Info
Voyage In Poker)
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: Chipaccrual on November 11, 2010, 14:55:07 PM

Cant really remember how many teams there was last year. Is there no way the casino could fit any more that 200player?


The first year it was 200 runners, so 20 teams of 10.

Last year we were capped to 160 runners by the venue, so went for 20 teams of 8, after initially discussing 16 of 10.

This year is 200 runnners (Capped by the venue), we"ve decided to keep it teams of 8, so we can squeeze in another 5 teams.

It"s not just about capacity, at the same time as this event is on, the GUKPT are in Manchester, so I would imagine they are stretched from a dealer point of view also.
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: jaysdad on November 11, 2010, 15:44:43 PM
ty chipaccrual, question asked answer recieved.
i had no idea the GUKPT was about locally the same w/end
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: SirPercival on November 11, 2010, 17:35:57 PM


Cant really remember how many teams there was last year. Is there no way the casino could fit any more that 200player?


The first year it was 200 runners, so 20 teams of 10.

Last year we were capped to 160 runners by the venue, so went for 20 teams of 8, after initially discussing 16 of 10.

This year is 200 runnners (Capped by the venue), we"ve decided to keep it teams of 8, so we can squeeze in another 5 teams.

It"s not just about capacity, at the same time as this event is on, the GUKPT are in Manchester, so I would imagine they are stretched from a dealer point of view also.


With so much talk of last year, could you please remind us who won.  ;D


p.s. where is the trophy?
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: AJDUK on November 11, 2010, 23:35:31 PM


With so much talk of last year, could you please remind us who won.  ;D

p.s. where are the bits of the trophy?


FYP
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: Shortstack on November 12, 2010, 00:03:17 AM

good luck in your thankless task of choosing from an ever increasing list and then handling the next debate ;)


100% true. Nightmare task ahead.
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: AMRN on November 12, 2010, 08:19:52 AM



With so much talk of last year, could you please remind us who won.  ;D

p.s. where are the bits of the trophy?


FYP


Never got my 8th :(
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: Mikeyboy9361 on November 12, 2010, 09:10:19 AM
15 of the LBPN crew hit the GUKPT side event in Blackpool last night, unfortunately their high hopes were blown away in the Blackpool gales, as they didn"t manage to cash. A disappointing result, but I am sure the Blackjack and roulette wins made up for lack of success at the poker table  :)
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: snipsanator on November 13, 2010, 14:02:46 PM

Requests already submitted (in no particular order):

APAT Forum
APAT Champions
FurnessPoker
Chezger
Bristol & South West Poker Meetup

Punters Lounge
Hendon Mob
Pokerplayersplace
Black Country Poker Club
London Poker Meetup

blonde Poker
Elite Amateur Poker League
Eatmystack
Newcastle Poker Forum
Sky Poker Forum

Betfair Poker Forum
TNPL.
Raise The River
The Pot (Cambs)
Larry Murphys Irregulars

Hetton Social Poker League
AWOP
St Asaph Monday Night Poker League
Gambling Network Forum
NIPoker Forum

BlackBelt Poker
Welsh Poker Forum
LivePubPokerLeague
VoyageinPoker
LBPN


I think you missed my request for crushpoker.com :)
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: TightEnd on November 13, 2010, 19:23:15 PM
Is there a community aspect to Crush Poker please?

All I see is an affiliate sign up service.....
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: dgc1989 on November 16, 2010, 12:44:08 PM
Can I register my teams application to participate.

We are a football website, which has sub-categorised its poker section into a weekly league - played on Stars.

We already have our relevant participants for Bolton - if we can secure a spot.

Any idea the time scale taken to know if you have been successful for inclusion?

Cheers




Forum: http://www.steelmenonline.co.uk/forums/index.php?showtopic=320 (http://www.steelmenonline.co.uk/forums/index.php?showtopic=320)
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: jaysdad on November 16, 2010, 17:15:15 PM

Can I register my teams application to participate.

We are a football website, which has sub-categorised its poker section into a weekly league - played on Stars.

We already have our relevant participants for Bolton - if we can secure a spot.

Any idea the time scale taken to know if you have been successful for inclusion?

Cheers





Teams in will be announced 1st/2nd december




Forum: http://www.steelmenonline.co.uk/forums/index.php?showtopic=320 (http://www.steelmenonline.co.uk/forums/index.php?showtopic=320)
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: Raggie Maggie on November 21, 2010, 12:18:10 PM
I have already registered LivePubPokerLeagues interest but did not include a link to the forum as others have done.

here is a link:  

http://livepubpokerleague.com/forum

Maggie
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: smiler2705 on November 22, 2010, 05:57:07 AM
Can someone let me know how many teams will be in the January 2011 event and is it possible to enter a team.

Many thanks
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: nosey-p on November 22, 2010, 08:11:51 AM

Can someone let me know how many teams will be in the January 2011 event and is it possible to enter a team.

Many thanks


25 teams of 8
by this Wednesday
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: TightEnd on November 24, 2010, 11:33:40 AM
Last day for entries

Any more to add to these 33 requests?

Ace of Clubs
APAT Champions
APAT Forum
AWOP
Betfair Poker Forum
Black Country Poker Club
BlackBelt Poker
blonde Poker
Blowfly Ladies
Bristol & South West Poker Meetup
Chezger
Eatmystack
Elite Amateur Poker League
FurnessPoker
Gambling Network Forum
Hendon Mob
Hetton Social Poker League
Larry Murphys Irregulars
LBPN
LivePubPokerLeague
London Poker Meetup
Newcastle Poker Forum
NIPoker Forum
Pokerplayersplace
Punters Lounge
Raise The River
Sky Poker Forum
St Asaph Monday Night Poker League
Steelmen Online
The Pot (Cambs)
TNPL.
VoyageinPoker
Welsh Poker Forum

Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: TightEnd on November 25, 2010, 02:10:07 AM
Entries closed


The APAT forum team captain will be announced on Friday, in time for  you to speak to him or her at the weekend!


25 successful teams announced asap after the weekend
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: BULLDOG235 on November 29, 2010, 00:47:47 AM
hope we get a place  :) :) woo hoo come on team voyage in poker
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: Careybear on December 01, 2010, 10:08:28 AM
Okay I may be blind but what are the starting times on the two days for the event?  Just wondering if I can get away with getting there on Saturday morning or should get there for Friday night....Thanks.

carey
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: TightEnd on December 01, 2010, 10:13:00 AM
2.30pm each day
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: Careybear on December 01, 2010, 10:45:44 AM

2.30pm each day


thank you :)
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: BOINGBLITZ on December 01, 2010, 12:16:12 PM
Rodders.....on behalf of my team-mates at BCPC, could I request that you hang fire on your team selection until after December 12th please ?
We will announce our team on Dec 11th and it cannot be done before then as we play on Dec 10th.
Our team will be our top 8 ranked players and therefore some terrific poker players may miss out.
They will then, I am sure, wish to apply for the APAT team and as you had THREE BCPC members in the winning team last year, I am sure that you will agree, waiting may make sense for you here !
Hope you can do this for me.
Cheers and congrats again on being chosen as skipper (and remember to pick yourself...you deserve it mate)
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: Chipaccrual on December 01, 2010, 12:36:25 PM
Are you suggesting that the APAT Forum team should be made up of the players missing out on the BCPC team ?

I don"t think it"s fair to ask Steve to delay naming a team until the BCPC one has been selected.

If players want to play for APAT, then they can register their interest with Steve.  I"m sure he will be able to pick 4 or 5 superb teams from those interested if he was able to.

I"m not sure how fair it would be on those that have shown an interest in the APAT team, and don"t have any interest in any of the other teams.


Just thinking out loud here a bit.  Flame away.
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: AMRN on December 01, 2010, 12:40:34 PM
totally agree with Leigh, sorry Bri.

APAT team is one of the most prestigious teams in the event imo - selection is a privilege.... it certainly shouldn"t be a catch all for anyone who doesn"t make their own team
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: cincicrappykid on December 01, 2010, 12:58:21 PM

Are you suggesting that the APAT Forum team should be made up of the players missing out on the BCPC team ?

I don"t think it"s fair to ask Steve to delay naming a team until the BCPC one has been selected.

If players want to play for APAT, then they can register their interest with Steve.  I"m sure he will be able to pick 4 or 5 superb teams from those interested if he was able to.

I"m not sure how fair it would be on those that have shown an interest in the APAT team, and don"t have any interest in any of the other teams.


Just thinking out loud here a bit.  Flame away.
is this pic of any signifacace ala Luton van for Luton event ? pray tell/

Quiz question What is the most common owl in Britain ?
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: Chipaccrual on December 01, 2010, 13:44:15 PM


Are you suggesting that the APAT Forum team should be made up of the players missing out on the BCPC team ?

I don"t think it"s fair to ask Steve to delay naming a team until the BCPC one has been selected.

If players want to play for APAT, then they can register their interest with Steve.  I"m sure he will be able to pick 4 or 5 superb teams from those interested if he was able to.

I"m not sure how fair it would be on those that have shown an interest in the APAT team, and don"t have any interest in any of the other teams.


Just thinking out loud here a bit.  Flame away.
is this pic of any signifacace ala Luton van for Luton event ? pray tell/

Quiz question What is the most common owl in Britain ?


It"s in honour of Deb Duncan, and I don"t know the answer to the quiz question ?  Please don"t let it be a cheesey one liner.   ;D
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: cincicrappykid on December 01, 2010, 14:49:41 PM



Are you suggesting that the APAT Forum team should be made up of the players missing out on the BCPC team ?

I don"t think it"s fair to ask Steve to delay naming a team until the BCPC one has been selected.

If players want to play for APAT, then they can register their interest with Steve.  I"m sure he will be able to pick 4 or 5 superb teams from those interested if he was able to.

I"m not sure how fair it would be on those that have shown an interest in the APAT team, and don"t have any interest in any of the other teams.


Just thinking out loud here a bit.  Flame away.
is this pic of any signifacace ala Luton van for Luton event ? pray tell/

Quiz question What is the most common owl in Britain ?


It"s in honour of Deb Duncan, and I don"t know the answer to the quiz question ?  Please don"t let it be a cheesey one liner.   ;D
how is owl related  to debs?.. and its not cheesy have a go
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: ForthThistle on December 01, 2010, 15:25:18 PM

Rodders.....on behalf of my team-mates at BCPC, could I request that you hang fire on your team selection until after December 12th please ?
We will announce our team on Dec 11th and it cannot be done before then as we play on Dec 10th.
Our team will be our top 8 ranked players and therefore some terrific poker players may miss out.
They will then, I am sure, wish to apply for the APAT team and as you had THREE BCPC members in the winning team last year, I am sure that you will agree, waiting may make sense for you here !
Hope you can do this for me.
Cheers and congrats again on being chosen as skipper (and remember to pick yourself...you deserve it mate)

PMSL... Surely this is a wind up... Somebody else on your computer Brian.. :o :o :-[
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: Chipaccrual on December 01, 2010, 15:42:51 PM




Are you suggesting that the APAT Forum team should be made up of the players missing out on the BCPC team ?

I don"t think it"s fair to ask Steve to delay naming a team until the BCPC one has been selected.

If players want to play for APAT, then they can register their interest with Steve.  I"m sure he will be able to pick 4 or 5 superb teams from those interested if he was able to.

I"m not sure how fair it would be on those that have shown an interest in the APAT team, and don"t have any interest in any of the other teams.


Just thinking out loud here a bit.  Flame away.
is this pic of any signifacace ala Luton van for Luton event ? pray tell/

Quiz question What is the most common owl in Britain ?


It"s in honour of Deb Duncan, and I don"t know the answer to the quiz question ?  Please don"t let it be a cheesey one liner.   ;D
how is owl related  to debs?.. and its not cheesy have a go


You"ll have to ask her, and I"ll go for a Barn Owl.
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: PantsMan on December 01, 2010, 16:05:39 PM
Oh and it"s the Tawny Owl.

Or the Teet Owl.

And Debs thinks that when Leigh is playing poker and he stares someone down he looks like an owl.  :)
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: TheSnapper on December 01, 2010, 16:22:58 PM

Rodders.....on behalf of my team-mates at BCPC, could I request that you hang fire on your team selection until after December 12th please ?
We will announce our team on Dec 11th and it cannot be done before then as we play on Dec 10th.
Our team will be our top 8 ranked players and therefore some terrific poker players may miss out.
They will then, I am sure, wish to apply for the APAT team and as you had THREE BCPC members in the winning team last year, I am sure that you will agree, waiting may make sense for you here !
Hope you can do this for me.
Cheers and congrats again on being chosen as skipper (and remember to pick yourself...you deserve it mate)


To summarise, can you hold on till we at BCPC know what cast offs we"ll hand down to your team.

Not your finest hour Brian, but reality is a very personal commodity.

Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: Paulie_D on December 01, 2010, 17:56:04 PM


And Debs thinks that when Leigh is playing poker and he stares someone down he looks like an owl.  :)


Hoo?
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: blowfly on December 01, 2010, 20:55:01 PM

Oh and it"s the Tawny Owl.

Or the Teet Owl.

And Debs thinks that when Leigh is playing poker and he stares someone down he looks like an owl.  :)


No it"s actually when he goes round tables with his pad doing chip counts - he twitches his head while he counts and his eyebrows look dead bushy and owl-like.  Not scary owl - cute cuddly owl!
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: HaworthBantam on December 02, 2010, 07:48:11 AM


Oh and it"s the Tawny Owl.

Or the Teet Owl.

And Debs thinks that when Leigh is playing poker and he stares someone down he looks like an owl.  :)


No it"s actually when he goes round tables with his pad doing chip counts - he twitches his head while he counts and his eyebrows look dead bushy and owl-like.  Not scary owl - cute cuddly owl!


What freaks me out, is the way his head can do a full 360 when taking said chip counts...
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: BOINGBLITZ on December 02, 2010, 10:27:15 AM
Rodders can pick who he wants. If my guys aren"t wanted then so be it.
Tell you what, I will ask them ALL to apply then when I pick my team, if any of them are in the APAT team they will drop out...that better for you ?

Just thinkin of my players and get slagged off for it......amazing.
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: SirPercival on December 02, 2010, 10:38:52 AM

Rodders can pick who he wants. If my guys aren"t wanted then so be it.
Tell you what, I will ask them ALL to apply then when I pick my team, if any of them are in the APAT team they will drop out...that better for you ?

Just thinkin of my players and get slagged off for it......amazing.


Brian, I am quite sure these people are individuals and not "your" players.
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: Chipaccrual on December 02, 2010, 10:50:55 AM

Rodders can pick who he wants. If my guys aren"t wanted then so be it.
Tell you what, I will ask them ALL to apply then when I pick my team, if any of them are in the APAT team they will drop out...that better for you ?

Just thinkin of my players and get slagged off for it......amazing.


I don"t think that is the case Brian, and Steve has posted above stating what he is going to do, which seems a very fair approach.

My post wasn"t specifically aimed at you, I just feel it puts captains in a tough position if you start asking them to hold off from making selections until other teams have announced.

Steve"s got a tough enough job as it is.
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: BOINGBLITZ on December 02, 2010, 13:05:45 PM
If Steve picked his team before the 12th then I wouldv"e told all BCPC players who wanted to play, to apply to Steve for the APAT team as we wont know until 11th at the earliest, who is in our side.
 Then, if Steve had chosen, for example, Andy Duncan, Steve Redfern and Will Young, and they were all in our top 8, then he would be 3 players short.
 My original post was an attempt to HELP Steve and make sure none of my boys miss out .....and nothing more.
 Was just trying to keep everyone happy but if people perceive it as something else then so be it.

Hopefully there wont be a problem now.
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: TightEnd on December 02, 2010, 13:19:01 PM
but if he chose the three you mentioned, which he might if they apply, they might choose to play for APAT not BCPC?

You might be three players short, not him?

p.s they are individuals who could represent many teams, surely?
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: BOINGBLITZ on December 02, 2010, 13:22:22 PM
They wont, believe me.
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: TightEnd on December 02, 2010, 13:24:23 PM
However it would be a great honour to be chosen for the APAT team, or the APAT Champions team. Would be a surprise if anyone turned that down.
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: Jon MW on December 02, 2010, 13:31:15 PM

They wont, believe me.


so you started off saying you were just trying to look after you members - but now it seems more like you"re trying to make sure none of them get picked for the APAT team to start with
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: BOINGBLITZ on December 02, 2010, 13:32:49 PM
I give up
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: SirPercival on December 02, 2010, 13:34:08 PM

They wont, believe me.


Brian you say you were only trying to help Steve. Comments like this really don"t help your case.
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: Mikeyboy9361 on December 02, 2010, 13:43:30 PM

I give up

Bit like the Baggies did last night, ey Bri? ;)
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: bigredders on December 02, 2010, 13:46:01 PM
I can see where you are coming from Brian, but the way you are putting it across is not the best IMO. It can be quite easily percieved in your post that you think that whoever doesn"t make your team should walk into the APAT team, which is kind of offensive to the people that are applying. Players such as Steve for example have, by their own admission have not had the best season this year in APAT terms, so that shouldn"t make them a shoo-in for the APAT team if they were to apply. Not only this, it is like asking a Birmingham player to play for Villa for a day!

I know that the BCPC have had a lot of success lately, but i think it is going to your head a little.
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: MintTrav on December 02, 2010, 13:49:28 PM
There"s no need for any of this.

The standard is higher now, so none of the old-style BCPC players would get onto the APAT team anyway.

Hope that helps.
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: SirPercival on December 02, 2010, 13:55:39 PM

There"s no need for any of this.

The standard is higher now, so none of the old-style BCPC players would get onto the APAT team anyway.

Hope that helps.


PMSL - always the diplomat John.
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: TheSnapper on December 02, 2010, 14:14:02 PM

They wont, believe me.


Don"t know if you have discussed this with the individuals Brian or it is just your opinion, but, are you making the point that, if, Andy, Steve and Will ( think thats the 3 players?) are chosen for both BCPC and Apat teams, they would refuse the honour to defend the title in favour of the more "prestigeous" berth at Team BCPC.





Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: Paulie_D on December 02, 2010, 14:14:31 PM
Tighty said....

Quote


Team APAT, as defending champions will be representative of the APAT members.



Quote


The APAT forum captain ....will be asked to pick the best team for the purposes of representing the APAT forum well and defending their title



Leigh said....
Quote


The captain of the APAT Forum team has got a very tough job on their hands.  They want to pick a team to retain the title, but at the same time I think it is important to have a team that fully represents APAT......I refer to what APAT is about, and that is more than just winners, it"s the community, the friendships and the general good nature that is present in our structure.


Although Steve will (and should) pick players who will have an excellent chance of winning the trophy again,  in my PERSONAL opinion, he should, from that pool, also select players who have demonstrated their support for the APAT community &/or forum by doing more than just turning up and playing.
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: MintTrav on December 02, 2010, 14:25:45 PM

However it would be a great honour to be chosen for the APAT team, or the APAT Champions team. Would be a surprise if anyone turned that down.


Speaking of which, should people who have won one throw their hat into the ring for the APAT team, or is there a separate ring? There would be a hole if they were subsequently picked for the Champions team. On the other hand, if they held off they might end up on no team. It would be better if that team was announced first. I read somewhere that it is mainly being selected on distance travelled (Portsmouth-Bolton 253 miles). It seems to be compulsory on this type of post to state that I am not asking for myself - just worried about all the poor Champions out there who are unsure what to do.

Sorry for boring you all with this issue - I realise that this isn"t a problem for most of you.
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: AMRN on December 02, 2010, 14:29:17 PM


They wont, believe me.


Don"t know if you have discussed this with the individuals Brian or it is just your opinion, but, are you making the point that, if, Andy, Steve and Will ( think thats the 3 players?) are chosen for both BCPC and Apat teams, they would refuse the honour to defend the title in favour of the more "prestigeous" berth at Team BCPC.



2009 I had a great year with APAT, and made the APAT team (deservedly imo)

2010 I had a far less successful year with APAT and have not applied for a place on the APAT team as I don"t deserve one. I have however had a fantastic year with the BCPC and would like to think that I will qualify for a rankings driven place in that team. That said, if I don"t make the BCPC team, I still wouldn"t apply to the APAT team for reasons stated.

I fully understand where Brian was coming from - BCPC does have a strong line up, with several APAT regulars and indeed champions in its ranks - many of whom would have the right to think they are worthy of consideration for a place in the APAT team - loyalty to BCPC would be commendable, but a pain in the ass for those guys who end up falling just outside the rankings driven places meaning they miss out on the event altogether - Brian was simply trying help these people.  .... however, I don"t think he"s gone about it in the most diplomatic or politically correct way, and I can see why it might cause offence to some.    Going forward, I think there is nothing wrong with people chucking their hats into multiple rings...

On a more positive note, BCPC are looking forward to this event, and assuming I can stay in the top8 after the next round of games, will be super-proud to captain them in Bolton. I believe we have the strength in depth to do well at the event, and will give the APAT team, whoever it contains, a run for its money. Personally, I relish the challenge of finishing on the winning team two years running!! Would be nice to get another a team event trophy ;)
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: TightEnd on December 02, 2010, 14:30:48 PM
Leigh is the non-playing captain of the Champions team.

He has discussed with Des/me some names that he is considering....remember that the main criteria is to provide a team for the APAT Champions coming to bolton for the C0fC event and travelling a long way so to do, and who would be unlikely to be in a team otherwise.

Leigh can let us know when he is planning to announce it

Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: Chipaccrual on December 02, 2010, 14:46:09 PM

Leigh is the non-playing captain of the Champions team.

He has discussed with Des/me some names that he is considering....remember that the main criteria is to provide a team for the APAT Champions coming to bolton for the C0fC event and travelling a long way so to do, and who would be unlikely to be in a team otherwise.

Leigh can let us know when he is planning to announce it




SOON
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: Hammerite on December 02, 2010, 14:47:16 PM
Perhaps the solution is to forget about the current rankings at Bcpc and just name your team, that way anyone who is not in it can feel free to apply to any other team captain Apat included. Who ever heard of a such a thing as basing picks on current rankings, outrageous  ;)
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: Curlarge on December 02, 2010, 16:25:35 PM
Having read many of these posts, what does stand out is the passion for APAT from the huge majority of it"s members.

I have got to know many of the postees on this thread personally over the past year and without exception have been impressed by your commitment to and enthusiasm for APAT. This type of debate simply shows how much it means to be in Bolton for this most prestigious event, which at the end of the day says it all.

Good luck to all in getting on a team and Happy Christmas.
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: TheSnapper on December 02, 2010, 17:45:58 PM



2009 I had a great year with APAT, and made the APAT team (deservedly imo)

2010 I had a far less successful year with APAT and have not applied for a place on the APAT team as I don"t deserve one. I have however had a fantastic year with the BCPC and would like to think that I will qualify for a rankings driven place in that team. That said, if I don"t make the BCPC team, I still wouldn"t apply to the APAT team for reasons stated.

I fully understand where Brian was coming from - BCPC does have a strong line up, with several APAT regulars and indeed champions in its ranks - many of whom would have the right to think they are worthy of consideration for a place in the APAT team - loyalty to BCPC would be commendable, but a pain in the ass for those guys who end up falling just outside the rankings driven places meaning they miss out on the event altogether - Brian was simply trying help these people.  .... however, I don"t think he"s gone about it in the most diplomatic or politically correct way, and I can see why it might cause offence to some.    Going forward, I think there is nothing wrong with people chucking their hats into multiple rings...

On a more positive note, BCPC are looking forward to this event, and assuming I can stay in the top8 after the next round of games, will be super-proud to captain them in Bolton. I believe we have the strength in depth to do well at the event, and will give the APAT team, whoever it contains, a run for its money. Personally, I relish the challenge of finishing on the winning team two years running!! Would be nice to get another a team event trophy ;)



Nice post Steve.

Firstly, it was not my intention that people should come on here and state publicly which team they"d prefer to represent. If that was perceived by anyone as the message, I sincerely apologise.

That would be very unfair and not the point at all. We are a diverse bunch and as stated earlier personal choices like those are uniquely our own and should imho, remain sacrosanct, never ever be judged, frowned upon, deemed inferior in any way and importantly, never be deemed superior either.




Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: BOINGBLITZ on December 02, 2010, 19:01:19 PM
I  never intended to "Seem superior" in any way, if that comment was aimed at me, Brendan, nor was I intending to make out that any (or all) of my players were.
 My ONLY reason behind my original posting was to avoid a nightmare scenario whereby someone in my current top 8 has a bad week at BCPC and drops out, thus being too late to apply to APAT to play for them.
 As I can"t play the event myself I was just looking out for my teammates at the....can I mention this Mrs Moderator ???.....BCPC.
 If anyone at the......hope this is ok......BCPC.....is good enough to get in the APAT team then they will be chosen. If Steve thinks they are not, then he wont pick them and I have no problem with that.

I am sorry if you think we are getting ideas above our station but if you honestly think that is the case then you don"t know me, or the majority, if not all of the......oh dear.......BCPC.....at all.

At least Don and John can see the funny side (Very subtle Mr Hammerite....I like it !).

We were born through the APAT forum and will continue to use it and if anyone out there has a problem with THAT then maybe YOU should find somewhere else to post.

Good Luck again to Steve and to you all.
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: PHIL_TC on December 02, 2010, 19:28:23 PM
This thread makes me sad. Personally I would rather play for APAT over any other team. Can understand loyalties to other teams of course, but being picked for APAT at the APAT Team Championships would surely be the highest honour possible. I"m sure Steve will have a near enough impossible task as it is picking a side without the minor bickering going on within this thread. Good luck to him I say, pick the best team you can and do APAT proud.
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: baldaceguy on December 02, 2010, 20:17:38 PM
This makes me sad also.About 75% of people who have been in APAT since it was first concieved have got exactly zero chance of playing in this competition for a variety of reasons and yet we have people metaphorically coming to blows over which team they will deign to play in or be chosen for.People keep banging on about the spirit of APAT etc but more and more it seems to be a carve up for the benefit of the "usual suspects".
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: MAIR on December 02, 2010, 20:25:38 PM
oh puleaz Brian, Mrs Moderator...seriously take a look at your posts and tell me I"m wrong, there are well over 25 forums whose members post on APAT and yet they do not go on and on and on about their forum or their teammates or want to be individually singled out, seriously give it a rest
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: TheSnapper on December 02, 2010, 20:25:41 PM



I  never intended to "Seem superior" in any way, if that comment was aimed at me, Brendan, nor was I intending to make out that any (or all) of my players were.

My ONLY reason behind my original posting was to avoid a nightmare scenario whereby someone in my current top 8 has a bad week at BCPC and drops out, thus being too late to apply to APAT to play for them.



I don"t doubt your intentions at all Brian, but nonetheless the theme of your posts in this thread are at best disrespectful and at worst condescending in the extreme.

Statements like....


 
Just had a browse through the Apat team thread, imho Steve has some awesome talent to select from notwithstanding the fact he may also have access to some top players with BCPC affiliations.


Disclaimer:
  I"d like to go on record to categorically state that I don"t now nor have I ever, had any grievance with the "BCPC" or any of its affiliates. TBH I genuinely acknowledge BCPC as an authentic hotbed of UK poker talent and some top folk too.



Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: Claw75 on December 02, 2010, 20:35:10 PM
i"ve applied to join the APAT team.  I know I"ve only an outside chance anyway (although there"s always the random pick!), but some of the posts on here made me seriously consider withdrawing my application altogether this afternoon, as I couldn"t help but think that if I was lucky enough to be offered a place there will be a significant number of people who would think it was undeservedt.  But, I thought about it, and it"s up to Steve what criteria he uses to select the team, and when he announces it imo.  No one should be a shoe in, and, imvho, everyone who is part of APAT should feel able to put their name forward regardless of how high their APAT profile and how good their results are.  I think it would be helpful if everyone else stopped trying to do the captain"s (already very difficult) job for him, and if anyone else has been put off applying, I would urge you to go for it!
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: BOINGBLITZ on December 02, 2010, 20:40:40 PM
CLAW....go for it and good luck

Brendan, I take onboard your comments, but re-iterate that my intentions were good (Love the disclaimer !)

Mary...why can nobody see your post ?......because it was removed...a moderator moderated says it all I think.
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: George2Loose on December 02, 2010, 20:41:13 PM
Im confused. Thought rodders was captain not Steve. Personally u either wanna play for a team or u don"t. If you wanna play for bcpc then why apply for apat and vice versa?
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: Claw75 on December 02, 2010, 20:42:19 PM

Im confused. Thought rodders was captain not Steve. Personally u either wanna play for a team or u don"t. If you wanna play for bcpc then why apply for apat and vice versa?


Rodders = Steve Roderick.  Innit.
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: SirPercival on December 02, 2010, 20:44:02 PM

CLAW....go for it and good luck

Brendan, I take onboard your comments, but re-iterate that my intentions were good (Love the disclaimer !)

Mary...why can nobody see your post ?......because it was removed...a moderator moderated says it all I think.



I think it"s on an earlier page Bri, but to be fair I"m confused as to what has and hasn"t been removed, moved etc.
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: SirPercival on December 02, 2010, 20:45:29 PM

Im confused. Thought rodders was captain not Steve. Personally u either wanna play for a team or u don"t. If you wanna play for bcpc then why apply for apat and vice versa?


Never mind reading all this George, just give us the next part of your blog from Coventry.  :)
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: BOINGBLITZ on December 02, 2010, 20:45:58 PM
George...after your performance last weekend, you are a cert anyway !
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: George2Loose on December 02, 2010, 20:48:48 PM
Blog. Sigh. Am stuck on my phone while we switch broadband providers.

Bri: I managed to display my ability to nail gutshots!
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: Chipaccrual on December 02, 2010, 20:50:32 PM
I"ve moved the posts from the APAT Team thread onto here, hopefully got them all.

Let"s not have this turn into a personal slanging match between anyone.

If anyone has a problem with that, drop me a pm.


In summary, Brian posted with the best of intentions, although some people (including myself) thought it came across quite unfairly for the APAT captain Steve.  Steve has since posted his intentions on the other thread, so lets move on.

Will be interesting to see who makes both the APAT and BCPC teams, perhaps you can post the current top 8 Brian, to give everyone a hint.
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: BOINGBLITZ on December 02, 2010, 20:52:16 PM
dont put yourself down George......and Stu.....I was told the post was removed pretty quickly.
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: AmandaCamm on December 02, 2010, 20:52:36 PM

As a newbie, I feel this thread should now get back on track...
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: Chipaccrual on December 02, 2010, 20:56:41 PM


As a newbie, I feel this thread should now get back on track...


I"m sorry, but members with over 500+ posts cannot call themselves a newbie.   ;)
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: SirPercival on December 02, 2010, 20:58:13 PM


As a newbie, I feel this thread should now get back on track...


Amanda I hope you have put yourself forward for the APAT team, that would be awesome!
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: MintTrav on December 02, 2010, 20:58:52 PM
Come on people, give a guy a break. Everyone knows that Brian has the best intentions of APAT and er, the other crowd at heart. It"s just a case of foot-in-mouthness, not any serious crime. And we"re getting a bit sanctimonious about the glory of representing APAT being the highest accolade in poker. Let"s just chillax a bit.


Examples of serious crimes:
~ Cheating
~ Slowrolling
~ Wearing sunnies & hoodies indoors like some gangsta-rapper in a £75 tournament
~ Running through a casino with your shirt over your head cos your team has scored against Portsmouth
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: AMRN on December 02, 2010, 20:59:02 PM



As a newbie, I feel this thread should now get back on track...


I"m sorry, but members with over 500+ posts cannot call themselves a newbie.   ;)


LOL!!  So if not a newbie, she must be an oldie...... so what does 6000+ posts make you????
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: AMRN on December 02, 2010, 21:00:21 PM

Come on people, give a guy a break. Everyone knows that Brian has the best intentions of APAT and er, the other crowd at heart. It"s just a case of foot-in-mouthness, not any serious crime. And we"re getting a bit sanctimonious about the glory of representing APAT being the highest accolade in poker. Let"s just chillax a bit.



OMG I agree with John - what"s the world coming to ffs!!?
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: Chipaccrual on December 02, 2010, 21:01:34 PM

Come on people, give a guy a break. Everyone knows that Brian has the best intentions of APAT and er, the other crowd at heart. It"s just a case of foot-in-mouthness, not any serious crime. And we"re getting a bit sanctimonious about the glory of representing APAT being the highest accolade in poker. Let"s just chillax a bit.


Examples of serious crimes:
~ Cheating
~ Slowrolling
~ Wearing sunnies & hoodies indoors like some gangsta-rapper in a £75 tournament
~ Running through a casino with your shirt over your head cos your team has scored against Portsmouth


I thought this was a serious post, until he used the word "chillax"    8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: BOINGBLITZ on December 02, 2010, 21:01:58 PM
agreed
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: SirPercival on December 02, 2010, 21:02:56 PM




As a newbie, I feel this thread should now get back on track...


I"m sorry, but members with over 500+ posts cannot call themselves a newbie.   ;)


LOL!!  So if not a newbie, she must be an oldie...... so what does 6000+ posts make you????


sad  ;)
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: TheSnapper on December 02, 2010, 21:03:56 PM
Never thought I"d see the day or context when John could fit into a peacemakers role ;D
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: Chipaccrual on December 02, 2010, 21:04:44 PM





As a newbie, I feel this thread should now get back on track...


I"m sorry, but members with over 500+ posts cannot call themselves a newbie.   ;)


LOL!!  So if not a newbie, she must be an oldie...... so what does 6000+ posts make you????


sad, old and tired


FYP
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: mattblue on December 02, 2010, 21:42:49 PM
this is a great read lol bcpc team full of donks apat team full of luck boxes woop woop any good teams out there that just want to enjoy the day i am in
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: AmandaCamm on December 02, 2010, 23:03:32 PM



As a newbie, I feel this thread should now get back on track...


Amanda I hope you have put yourself forward for the APAT team, that would be awesome!


As I am no good at a poker table with more than two people around it (so I am told by a mod I know) I will not be putting myself forward for the APAT team. 

Whether Ian makes the team or not, we will both be there to enjoy the event, rail friends, and generally help out as and where we can.  May be even add a few posts to my count by updating the forum.....lol
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: WarBwastardo on December 03, 2010, 00:11:27 AM
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: AJDUK on December 03, 2010, 02:10:31 AM

(http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t189/Doyourow/anticon-hoodie-mask.jpg)



Is that Andy Overton?
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: AMRN on December 03, 2010, 08:24:33 AM


(http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t189/Doyourow/anticon-hoodie-mask.jpg)



Is that Andy Overton?


Nah can"t be Andy - this guy"s moving too quick.
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: PantsMan on December 03, 2010, 10:37:06 AM

Examples of serious crimes:
~ Wearing sunnies & hoodies indoors like some gangsta-rapper in a £75 tournament


Now it"s getting personal!   :o

and where can i get one of those Chillax tops?!
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: MAIR on December 03, 2010, 11:10:57 AM

CLAW....go for it and good luck

Brendan, I take onboard your comments, but re-iterate that my intentions were good (Love the disclaimer !)

Mary...why can nobody see your post ?......because it was removed...a moderator moderated says it all I think.



No, it hasnt been removed....want a loan of my specs?
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: AMRN on December 03, 2010, 11:25:34 AM


CLAW....go for it and good luck

Brendan, I take onboard your comments, but re-iterate that my intentions were good (Love the disclaimer !)

Mary...why can nobody see your post ?......because it was removed...a moderator moderated says it all I think.



No, it hasnt been removed....want a loan of my specs?


I think the reference is to the thread that Leigh deleted to try and prevent unnecessary ill feeling and argument
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: Chipaccrual on December 03, 2010, 11:36:41 AM



CLAW....go for it and good luck

Brendan, I take onboard your comments, but re-iterate that my intentions were good (Love the disclaimer !)

Mary...why can nobody see your post ?......because it was removed...a moderator moderated says it all I think.



No, it hasnt been removed....want a loan of my specs?


I think the reference is to the thread that Leigh deleted to try and prevent unnecessary ill feeling and argument


And that went well.   ;)

Let"s move on guys.
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: stoneii on December 03, 2010, 15:53:18 PM
"I believe we have the strength in depth to do well at the event, and will give the APAT team, whoever it contains, a run for its money"

Hey Steve (AMRN steve that is!) - first you both have to get by the everstrong Team NI - now that we"ve sorted our day two Matusow style blow up strategy!!! - now get on my table and on my right - pullleaase ;) :)

stoneii (Billy - perhaps being premature but hoping he makes the team again this year!)
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: WASP on December 03, 2010, 16:56:06 PM
I think BCPC should have two teams...it"s only fair
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: Des on December 03, 2010, 17:23:58 PM

I think BCPC should have two teams...it"s only fair


...and a ladies team.  Oh, hold on...
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: WYoung83 on December 03, 2010, 18:50:32 PM
the last time we had 2 teams, paul jackson and his son joined team B.
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: TheSnapper on December 03, 2010, 18:58:32 PM

the last time we had 2 teams, paul jackson and his son joined team B.


Didn"t the B team win that one!
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: Santino67 on December 03, 2010, 19:41:27 PM
Tighty, who"s picking the Betfair team mate?
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: Chipaccrual on December 03, 2010, 19:45:35 PM

Tighty, who"s picking the Betfair team mate?


I think it"s The Klup.

There"s a thread on the Betfair Forum
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: Santino67 on December 03, 2010, 21:23:56 PM


Tighty, who"s picking the Betfair team mate?


I think it"s The Klup.

There"s a thread on the Betfair Forum


Cheers Leigh. Left him a message but doubt I"ll get in as i just play the tables and don"t really use the forum. Chat during games to some of the guys - pcplod, rockme etc - but don"t get to play anywhere near as much as they do.

See what happens anyway, would love to be involved after Coventry  8)
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: blowfly on December 04, 2010, 11:28:38 AM


I think BCPC should have two teams...it"s only fair


...and a ladies team.  Oh, hold on...


Jest not - we are making plans .......
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: teamdobb on December 05, 2010, 14:19:10 PM
I have been asked to enquire from one of our members if any organisation maybe linked to APAT ( Betfair etc ) will be opening a book to enable people to have some little side bets on?
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: Chipaccrual on December 05, 2010, 16:32:15 PM

I have been asked to enquire from one of our members if any organisation maybe linked to APAT ( Betfair etc ) will be opening a book to enable people to have some little side bets on?


We are discussing this with them at the moment.
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: Santino67 on December 05, 2010, 22:54:05 PM

I have been asked to enquire from one of our members if any organisation maybe linked to APAT ( Betfair etc ) will be opening a book to enable people to have some little side bets on?


Hi Dobbs, do you play on BF 25c/50c+ cash tables? If so, sorry I haven"t caught up with you for a while, not played much cash on BF for a while.
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: AAroddersAA on December 06, 2010, 17:56:41 PM
I must admit I have not been keeping up to date on this thread and though I don"t want to go back over old ground I would say lets keep with the spirt of the event we are playing here. Brian was obviously trying to give the BCPC players the best chance of playing the event and this is something I have to agree with as the more regulars that play the event the better. I explained why I had chosen to announce the team on the 12th and he accepted that. Nothing here that is worth anybody falling out over, although there is nothing wrong with a bit of debate.

Needless to say I am glad players like Steve and the rest of the BCPC players are playing, it is good for the event.

Good luck to all teams invovled. The event will be good.
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: beansisdaman on December 15, 2010, 15:19:06 PM
just to clarify, the team championship, all members of the 25 teams play one big tournament, and when you get knocked out you get a certain amount of points? is there anywhere where the format is fully explained as in the points given to each position? cheers
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: Paulie_D on December 15, 2010, 15:25:21 PM
You are correct.

If I recall correctly, point are awarded for the top 50 places. 50th gets 1 point, 49th gets 2 points .....etc..until 1st gets 50 points.

Team with the most points wins.
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: AMRN on December 15, 2010, 15:33:20 PM

You are correct.

If I recall correctly, point are awarded for the top 50 places. 50th gets 1 point, 49th gets 2 points .....etc..until 1st gets 50 points.

Team with the most points wins.


top 40 i think
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: Jon MW on December 15, 2010, 16:27:08 PM
So does that mean it will be top 50 for this season?
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: AMRN on December 15, 2010, 16:38:33 PM
Personally I think it should be top 200 - 1 point for last place, sliding to 200 points for winner.

If a player makes it to say 80th, they have faired much better than the guy who went out in 200th place, yet in current format they score the same......
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: TightEnd on December 15, 2010, 16:53:30 PM
It"s top 50, same format as last year

All 200 play one MTT. The initial draw ensures no two players from the same team are on the same table. After that its pot luck

50th place gets 1 point and so on up to 50 points for first

Top three teams paid out 50% of the prize pool

The other 50% is paid as per a normal MTT to top 10% of the field, ie top 20 places


As a ready reckoner, the event has been run twice before with 150 runners and the winning team needed 4-5 of the 8 to hit the points, and 2-3 on the final table
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: TightEnd on December 15, 2010, 16:54:49 PM

Personally I think it should be top 200 - 1 point for last place, sliding to 200 points for winner.

If a player makes it to say 80th, they have faired much better than the guy who went out in 200th place, yet in current format they score the same......



A nice idea, but administratively very difficult. Not so much for recording the scores but relying on every single member of the field to tell you when they get knocked out is hugely optimistic, especially for some teams once the bar has opened!
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: Marty719 on December 15, 2010, 17:13:12 PM
Due to the split prize pool I thnk it cd b a gd idea to just pay the final table. Obv too late to be a valid suggestion for ths yr but something in the ideas box for next.
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: TightEnd on December 15, 2010, 17:17:33 PM

Due to the split prize pool I thnk it cd b a gd idea to just pay the final table. Obv too late to be a valid suggestion for ths yr but something in the ideas box for next.


No its not too late, we can adjust on the weekend. Feedback beforehand will be part of the decision making process
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: Paulie_D on December 15, 2010, 17:21:13 PM

Due to the split prize pool I thnk it cd b a gd idea to just pay the final table. Obv too late to be a valid suggestion for ths yr but something in the ideas box for next.


I think this is an excellent idea, after all, the Team Championship isn"t like any other APAT events and so there is no reason why the "standard" payouts should apply.

FT (of 10) sounds reasonable.
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: deanp27 on December 15, 2010, 17:25:09 PM
just pay out the winner imo  :)
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: AMRN on December 15, 2010, 19:16:29 PM

just pay out the winner imo  :)


LOL!!

Final table payout feels right considering the reduced prize pool
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: ajcairns on December 15, 2010, 19:36:15 PM
the prize money may be split but in reality the 3 teams that cash will also form many of the top 20 spots and so should make up for the lower individual payouts.  However paying out 20 offers a lone player that has outplayed the rest of his team the chance of some compensation for doing so.
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: Jon MW on December 15, 2010, 19:41:11 PM
I think 200th should get nothing

1st place should get 90% of the individual prize pool

and the remaining 10% should be evenly split between 2nd and 199th
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: SirPercival on December 15, 2010, 21:08:48 PM
Last year it was only the final table that was paid.

Please don"t ask me how I know this.
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: Curlarge on December 15, 2010, 23:23:54 PM
I agree with the FT only being paid. This way 190 of us will be bubble boys (or girls), which will make for a better story when boring my wife late Sunday.
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: AJDUK on December 16, 2010, 02:23:53 AM

I agree with the FT only being paid. This way 190 of us will be bubble boys (or girls), which will make for a better story when boring my wife late Sunday.

You could perhaps rephrase this Rich  ;)
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: JamieCarra on December 17, 2010, 04:20:22 AM

just pay out the winner imo  :)

+1  ;D
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: Curlarge on December 17, 2010, 10:23:55 AM


I agree with the FT only being paid. This way 190 of us will be bubble boys (or girls), which will make for a better story when boring my wife late Sunday.

You could perhaps rephrase this Rich  ;)

You know what these greeks are like Andy!!!!!
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: Kev B on January 10, 2011, 15:20:44 PM
I know the date, venue etc but trawling throught the threads I can"t find, or have missed the start time. Could you post please.

Thanks.
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: Paulie_D on January 10, 2011, 16:00:28 PM
2.30 pm seems likely.
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: Chipaccrual on January 10, 2011, 16:26:25 PM

2.30 pm seems likely.


Correct
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: amcgrath1uk on January 20, 2011, 01:59:44 AM
Just a quick one for anyone travelling by train and intending travelling home on the Sunday.

At present, there are no trains running on the Sunday anywhere between Manchester and Bolton, as well as Bolton up to Preston.

There are obviously rail replacement buses on ( and last Sunday they weren"t bad at all), but anyone who has booked tickets to return on the Sunday will probably want to leave a touch earlier.

Hope this helps people!
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: suzanne on January 20, 2011, 02:56:29 AM

Just a quick one for anyone travelling by train and intending travelling home on the Sunday.

At present, there are no trains running on the Sunday anywhere between Manchester and Bolton, as well as Bolton up to Preston.

There are obviously rail replacement buses on ( and last Sunday they weren"t bad at all), but anyone who has booked tickets to return on the Sunday will probably want to leave a touch earlier.

Hope this helps people!


Makes me feel a little bit better about pulling out :/
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: Laxie on January 20, 2011, 03:01:52 AM


Just a quick one for anyone travelling by train and intending travelling home on the Sunday.

At present, there are no trains running on the Sunday anywhere between Manchester and Bolton, as well as Bolton up to Preston.

There are obviously rail replacement buses on ( and last Sunday they weren"t bad at all), but anyone who has booked tickets to return on the Sunday will probably want to leave a touch earlier.

Hope this helps people!


Makes me feel a little bit better about pulling out :/


What?  WHAT?!
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: Laxie on January 20, 2011, 03:05:50 AM
NVM.  Just found the post I must have missed over the Crimbo.   Sigh.
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: TightEnd on January 21, 2011, 13:06:06 PM
http://www.apat.com/forum/index.php?topic=7833.0
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: winstonia on January 21, 2011, 16:02:35 PM
What"s this casino like in regards to clothes? Jeans and runners ok?
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: deanp27 on January 21, 2011, 16:08:45 PM

What"s this casino like in regards to clothes? Jeans and runners ok?
Read the player briefing. Apparently no trainers
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: samuel_9 on January 21, 2011, 16:50:06 PM

What"s this casino like in regards to clothes? Jeans and runners ok?
there wont be any complaints if you  just go in the nip?
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: The Klup on January 24, 2011, 22:28:14 PM
SUBSTITUTION:


Players
1) Kathryn Johnson
2) David Underwood  (acting skipper)
3) Edward Smith
4) Vaino Tiik
5) Ian Mathhews
6) Andy Cairns
7) Gareth Fry
8) Paul Wallace  (NOW OUT) ... now in:  Nicholas Grey

Reserves:
9) Constandinos Patrinos (Skipper who will be kipper pi$$ed)
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: Ourkid888 on January 25, 2011, 19:32:01 PM
Hi there,

Looking forward to the weekend.  My name is Jon Laight and part of the Blackbelt Poker Team.  Just want to say a big thanks to APAT for the organising etc.  The BBP team is looking pretty strong so good luck and see you all Saturday.
:as:
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: WYoung83 on January 25, 2011, 21:49:06 PM
What"s this casino like in regards to clothes? Jeans and runners ok?
there wont be any complaints if you  just go in the nip?

im gonna walk in bare footed, then put my trainers on once i get in the card room.
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: smasher37 on January 25, 2011, 22:01:19 PM
hi good luck to all the teams that are taking part this weekend just a quick post to the management i think you should if you can go and get andy gray for co commentary this weekend as i think he will go down a storm with maylis  :) :) :)

P.S. i do not want to be taken to court for any comments i may or may not have made in private about any subject that may or may not cause offence to anybody
P.P.S. Sky should be ashamed
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: Paulie_D on January 25, 2011, 22:15:46 PM

What"s this casino like in regards to clothes? Jeans and runners ok?
there wont be any complaints if you  just go in the nip?

im gonna walk in bare footed, then put my trainers on once i get in the card room.


Have you even bothered to read the player briefing (http://www.apat.com/forum/index.php?topic=7832.0)?
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: Indestructable on January 25, 2011, 22:20:43 PM
LOL  :D
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: Matt D on January 26, 2011, 12:32:11 PM
Hi there

I have a change of player for the event.

Out: Dan Carter
In: Aaron Brunskill

I"ll also PM TightEnd the change.

Thanks
Matt (GNF)
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: WYoung83 on January 26, 2011, 20:19:30 PM
Yeh of course i have read it Paulie, i was messing around, because you have to walk through the casino to get to the card room. Are we not allowed to joke on here anymore?
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: Paulie_D on January 26, 2011, 20:26:58 PM

Yeh of course i have read it Paulie, i was messing around, because you have to walk through the casino to get to the card room. Are we not allowed to joke on here anymore?


Allowed to joke..I dunno...I"ll check with the mod team...but to be safe...best not to until I get the nod.
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: WYoung83 on January 26, 2011, 22:27:00 PM
Ok ill use some pot controll and play it smallball. No more joking untill we know its safe
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: AmandaCamm on January 27, 2011, 17:46:49 PM
No jokes allowed, only sarcasm...Good job i am used to the latter
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: doublebubble on January 27, 2011, 20:50:08 PM

What"s this casino like in regards to clothes? Jeans and runners ok?
there wont be any complaints if you  just go in the nip?

im gonna walk in bare footed, then put my trainers on once i get in the card room.


Trainers are fine.
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: pables on January 27, 2011, 20:54:25 PM
I thought trainers were a no go?
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: Paulie_D on January 27, 2011, 20:56:36 PM

I thought trainers were a no go?


I"m not taking the chance....boots for me.
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: doublebubble on January 27, 2011, 23:14:21 PM


I thought trainers were a no go?


I"m not taking the chance....boots for me.


I wont include the link as it is on another forum however I asked the question knowing the Bolton G read it and they confirmed trainers are ok
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: WYoung83 on January 28, 2011, 14:29:12 PM
Stuff it, im bringing my flip flops.
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: pables on January 28, 2011, 15:44:42 PM

Stuff it, im bringing my flip flops.


They"ll come in handy for the pool at HI   ;D
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: redkitebbp on January 28, 2011, 19:17:06 PM
Good Luck to the BlackBeltPoker team , run and play as well as the Aussie Millions Team  ;D
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: ronaldo07 on January 28, 2011, 19:52:39 PM
Team GNF ftw!!!!!!!
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: Jumbuck on January 28, 2011, 22:31:18 PM
On January 13th I posted a replacement for Phil Laws in team BSWPMU (Bristol) but the substitute player hasn"t appeared in our team list yet. His name is Andrew Drago. Hope this post is seen. Looking forward to tomorrow.
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: zzBlizzardzz on January 29, 2011, 09:16:15 AM

On January 13th I posted a replacement for Phil Laws in team BSWPMU (Bristol) but the substitute player hasn"t appeared in our team list yet. His name is Andrew Drago. Hope this post is seen. Looking forward to tomorrow.


I seen it!! Not to worry mate, Im sure Tighty or Des will sort it out when you get to the casino..
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: zzBlizzardzz on January 29, 2011, 09:21:02 AM

Personally I think it should be top 200 - 1 point for last place, sliding to 200 points for winner.

If a player makes it to say 80th, they have faired much better than the guy who went out in 200th place, yet in current format they score the same......


Not to often I agree with Steve, but I begrudgingly agree here..
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: KarmaDope on January 29, 2011, 09:28:59 AM


Personally I think it should be top 200 - 1 point for last place, sliding to 200 points for winner.

If a player makes it to say 80th, they have faired much better than the guy who went out in 200th place, yet in current format they score the same......


Not to often I agree with Steve, but I begrudgingly agree here..


Have you even slept yet, crazy man?

It"s a good idea - but unless at DTD it can be impossible to police as casinos don"t keep exact bustout placings, especially in a 200 man tourney. With 50 left, the APAT team can keep an eye on the few tables left.
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: zzBlizzardzz on January 31, 2011, 06:01:15 AM
Really simple though isn"t it. You get knocked out you go to apat table and tell them you are out or you get no points for your team. Surly the dealer can have a sheet and when someone gets knocked Out they can Mark the time and seat and table number. The result can ten be verified.
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: Curlarge on January 31, 2011, 14:50:53 PM

Really simple though isn"t it. You get knocked out you go to apat table and tell them you are out or you get no points for your team. Surly the dealer can have a sheet and when someone gets knocked Out they can Mark the time and seat and table number. The result can ten be verified.
+1
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: Chipaccrual on January 31, 2011, 15:02:06 PM
It"s a good idea guys in principal, however, in practice it leaves us wide open to errors and a heavy reliance on the dealers to record exits correctly.

We can look at it again for season 5.  Scoring system at the moment seems generate the "right" top teams.  Not sure how much of a different result you would get if we extended the scoring.

And also, this way, even if you lose a few of your team early on, you still have plenty to play for.
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: MintTrav on January 31, 2011, 15:24:23 PM

It"s a good idea guys in principal, however, in practice it leaves us wide open to errors and a heavy reliance on the dealers to record exits correctly.


Electronic scoring is the answer. Give everyone a card to swipe in the dealer"s slot when they go out. Or a button to hang around their necks, which their vanquisher could press to execute them, with old-Betfair booms.
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: Chipaccrual on January 31, 2011, 15:30:09 PM


It"s a good idea guys in principal, however, in practice it leaves us wide open to errors and a heavy reliance on the dealers to record exits correctly.


Electronic scoring is the answer. Give everyone a card to swipe in the dealer"s slot when they go out. Or a button to hang around their necks, which their vanquisher could press to execute them, with old-Betfair booms.


That would work.  May reduce the number of players returning for future APAT events, but it would solve this problem.
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - January 2011
Post by: Jon MW on February 07, 2011, 18:21:46 PM
Black Belt article from Snoopy - http://www.blackbeltpoker.com/articles/read/APAT-Team