Amateur Poker Association & Tour

Poker Forum => Strategy => Topic started by: pokerpops on February 16, 2011, 11:35:09 AM

Title:
Post by: pokerpops on February 16, 2011, 11:35:09 AM
There was some debate aout this last night.

The specifics of the hand in question - raised UTG to £7 and called by UTG+1, UTG+2 re-raises to £27, all fold to original raiser who shoves UTG+1 folds, UTG+2....
How tight would UTG+2 have to think UTG was in order to fold KK here?
Stacks were c£130 for both
Title:
Post by: AMRN on February 16, 2011, 11:40:13 AM
50p/£1 - KK is way up at the top of their shoving ranges. Easy call. At these stakes, people will make that play and show up with lower pairs, AK and even AQ.
Title:
Post by: pokerpops on February 16, 2011, 11:43:54 AM

50p/£1 - KK is way up at the top of their shoving ranges. Easy call. At these stakes, people will make that play and show up with lower pairs, AK and even AQ.



Almost exactly what I said - but the argument was that if XXXX shoved here he HAD to have AA - i lol"d
Title:
Post by: LongshanksED on February 16, 2011, 14:36:12 PM
Call and ask to run it more than once if up against aces or AK AQ
Title:
Post by: Marty719 on February 16, 2011, 14:38:42 PM

Call and ask to run it more than once if up against aces or AK AQ


Not allowed to do this in most casinos.

Def not folding KK in a 100nl live game.
Title:
Post by: LongshanksED on February 16, 2011, 15:11:22 PM
Why you not allowed to run it more than once

Casinos I"ve played in allow it.

Rake is still the same for the house and it"s the players money involved!
Title:
Post by: samuel_9 on February 16, 2011, 15:13:45 PM
cant fold...... wont fold...if there thinking off folding they should not be playing cards.....jmo...
Title:
Post by: Marty719 on February 16, 2011, 15:18:07 PM

Why you not allowed to run it more than once

Casinos I"ve played in allow it.

Rake is still the same for the house and it"s the players money involved!


G casinos and dtd both do not allow it.  I had a hand in G Bolton @ APAT Team Champs where it came down to playing a 400x pot with KQ vs 77 aipf and they wouldnt let us do business.  Both just announced last hand and chopped away from table.  
Title:
Post by: LongshanksED on February 16, 2011, 17:22:58 PM
2 of the 4 casinos in edinburgh run poker rooms

I"ve played cash in both and ran pots more than once (sometimes 4) in both
Title:
Post by: pokerpops on February 16, 2011, 17:25:56 PM

Call and ask to run it more than once if up against aces or AK AQ


Would you agree to run AA v KK more than once (assuming you hold AA?)

Title:
Post by: Marty719 on February 16, 2011, 17:29:43 PM

2 of the 4 casinos in edinburgh run poker rooms

I"ve played cash in both and ran pots more than once (sometimes 4) in both


In that case, Edinburgh>>>everywhere else. I guess it"s to stop collusion but pretty melty.
Title:
Post by: Swinebag on February 16, 2011, 22:16:30 PM


Call and ask to run it more than once if up against aces or AK AQ


Would you agree to run AA v KK more than once (assuming you hold AA?)




I"d run it as many times as KK wanted
Title:
Post by: RioRodent on February 17, 2011, 09:33:42 AM



Call and ask to run it more than once if up against aces or AK AQ


Would you agree to run AA v KK more than once (assuming you hold AA?)




I"d run it as many times as KK wanted


Especially if they"re the same suits! :)
Title:
Post by: WYoung83 on February 17, 2011, 18:04:15 PM
 I would run it 2 or 3 times if had AA vs KK. you are such a big Favourite anyway so it doesnt matter and reduces the variance when he hits a K the first time its ran (happens to us all from time to time) I would also always run over pair vs combo draws everytime, no matter which i held. I think its really bad customer service that DTD dont allow it, They allow straddles and its the players money and rake will be the same anyway.
Title:
Post by: jjandellis on May 10, 2011, 17:24:17 PM

There was some debate aout this last night.

The specifics of the hand in question - raised UTG to £7 and called by UTG+1, UTG+2 re-raises to £27, all fold to original raiser who shoves UTG+1 folds, UTG+2....
How tight would UTG+2 have to think UTG was in order to fold KK here?
Stacks were c£130 for both


Never folding. I"m happy to call everytime. Just reload if you lose. Beauty of BRM.

As others have said, he could be pushing so many hands - and only one that you go in behind against.
Title:
Post by: Swinebag on May 10, 2011, 17:30:45 PM


There was some debate aout this last night.

The specifics of the hand in question - raised UTG to £7 and called by UTG+1, UTG+2 re-raises to £27, all fold to original raiser who shoves UTG+1 folds, UTG+2....
How tight would UTG+2 have to think UTG was in order to fold KK here?
Stacks were c£130 for both


Never folding. I"m happy to call everytime.


Had to LOL here - this is Lee"s approach to any hand ;D ;D

Title:
Post by: jjandellis on May 10, 2011, 17:35:18 PM



There was some debate aout this last night.

The specifics of the hand in question - raised UTG to £7 and called by UTG+1, UTG+2 re-raises to £27, all fold to original raiser who shoves UTG+1 folds, UTG+2....
How tight would UTG+2 have to think UTG was in order to fold KK here?
Stacks were c£130 for both


Never folding. I"m happy to call everytime.


Had to LOL here - this is Lee"s approach to any hand ;D ;D




Hehehehehehehe its only money innit??
Title:
Post by: jjandellis on May 10, 2011, 17:38:58 PM
Think I may have been tainted from the play over here.  They get it in pre with anything!!! I absolutely love cash in Venlo, Holland. I thought I"d found the worlds softest game til I found a dodgy little German place in the city near me. I"ve never seen so many emotional meltdowns as playing with these lunatics over here!!!
Title:
Post by: Swinebag on May 10, 2011, 17:57:57 PM

Think I may have been tainted from the play over here.  They get it in pre with anything!!! I absolutely love cash in Venlo, Holland. I thought I"d found the worlds softest game til I found a dodgy little German place in the city near me. I"ve never seen so many emotional meltdowns as playing with these lunatics over here!!!


Do they still call "clock" the instant you look at your cards??
Title:
Post by: jjandellis on May 10, 2011, 22:49:39 PM


Think I may have been tainted from the play over here.  They get it in pre with anything!!! I absolutely love cash in Venlo, Holland. I thought I"d found the worlds softest game til I found a dodgy little German place in the city near me. I"ve never seen so many emotional meltdowns as playing with these lunatics over here!!!


Do they still call "clock" the instant you look at your cards??


Funnily enough someone not even involved in the hand did it to me the other day!!! I just dressed him down in English I was that disgusted! He busted next hand which was gutting cus I was gonna call clock on him every hand ;-)

U played much over here then?
Title:
Post by: Swinebag on May 10, 2011, 23:26:42 PM



Think I may have been tainted from the play over here.  They get it in pre with anything!!! I absolutely love cash in Venlo, Holland. I thought I"d found the worlds softest game til I found a dodgy little German place in the city near me. I"ve never seen so many emotional meltdowns as playing with these lunatics over here!!!


Do they still call "clock" the instant you look at your cards??


Funnily enough someone not even involved in the hand did it to me the other day!!! I just dressed him down in English I was that disgusted! He busted next hand which was gutting cus I was gonna call clock on him every hand ;-)

U played much over here then?


No I just remember your excellent EPT Dortmund Trip report and it happened to you in a cash game
Title:
Post by: jjandellis on May 10, 2011, 23:36:01 PM




Think I may have been tainted from the play over here.  They get it in pre with anything!!! I absolutely love cash in Venlo, Holland. I thought I"d found the worlds softest game til I found a dodgy little German place in the city near me. I"ve never seen so many emotional meltdowns as playing with these lunatics over here!!!


Do they still call "clock" the instant you look at your cards??


Funnily enough someone not even involved in the hand did it to me the other day!!! I just dressed him down in English I was that disgusted! He busted next hand which was gutting cus I was gonna call clock on him every hand ;-)

U played much over here then?


No I just remember your excellent EPT Dortmund Trip report and it happened to you in a cash game


ahhh yeah funnily enough when you mentioned it I thought about that!! They"re odd these Germans!