Amateur Poker Association & Tour
Poker Forum => Strategy => Topic started by: Foggy on August 08, 2011, 16:03:22 PM
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This has been bothering me all night....
The stacks are all the same at approx 15,000
Level 3 Blinds 50 - 100
I"m mid position and call an UTG raise with :as: js to 350, sb makes it 850, bb calls, intial raiser calls, I do the same
Flop comes down, ks 8s 5s, small blind bets 2000, bb raises to 6000, UTG folds
What do you do?
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You"ve flopped the nuts... Your ahead at this point... SHOVE!
If you get any callers shout out "ONE TIME" and pray :P
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You"ve flopped the nuts... Your ahead at this point... SHOVE!
If you get any callers shout out "ONE TIME" and pray :P
+1
only thing you can do !!
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This has been bothering me all night....
MBN to be in a position where you are bothered all night wondering how best to play the nutz when all the action kicks off before it"s your turn to bet!
EDIT: And this is obviously a fold cos someone is going to river a house.
EDIT2: Not sure about flat calling a 3.5x raise pre with AJ with so many to act behind.
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This has been bothering me all night....
MBN to be in a position where you are bothered all night wondering how best to play the nutz when all the action kicks off before it"s your turn to bet!
EDIT: And this is obviously a fold cos someone is going to river a house.
EDIT2: Not sure about flat calling a 3.5x raise pre with AJ with so many to act behind.
Now that"s just stupid thinking..... the obvious winner is the one with 7s :2d:
Turn: 6s
River: 4s
;D
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fold pre......twice.
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fold pre......twice.
Does really depend on utg"s range, against some AJs is the nuts, we are really deep and have position.
I feel a tragic beat story emerging :"(
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Could go either way but really dont see calling pre as that bad an option so deep
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Peeling the OR is ok vs certain villains, but aj does not play well vs an utg raise and a 3b (esp wen the 3b range shud b tighter due to it being utg and him being oop). I just cnt c how flatting 3bs w/ aj here can be long term profitable 150x deep.
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My bad, i didnt read close enough lol didnt realise there was a reraise, oops ::)
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very small 3bet sizing given sb"s position? 500 more?
what sort of hands were u putting them on Foggy? sb bb utg........
i only ask cos sb 3bets this small with AA KK ?? he hasn"t got the key black ace to lead out with, KK isn"t going to be thrilled about this flop...[plus the odd sizing pre, really ???]
the bb cold calls pre with what ? KK is in the unlikely , 55 88 really? and reraises the cbet?
utg only called the 3bet so big pairs are a no no mostly plus he folds anyhows...
if u reraise shove your hand is face up, the bb has nearly 1/2 his stack in and unless the sb has exactly KK the likely hood of extracting more from him is slim at best.. [unless u have some idea on his ability]
the bb reraise is odd and the only hand that fits best is a FD [a good FD] 67ss, followed by worse? u have the As the Ks is out, which swings round to sets [cold call pre 55 88 ?? or 67ss ??] or a outrageous bluff...
u can"t discount totally the sb having a flush right out either lol lol... both could have AK if they are in la la land...
meh shove em in....
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Call
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Really cant believe this is bugging you , if you still there on the flop and that comes down insta all in ! Depending on players most of the time its a fold pre, apart from that you have the nuts there loads in the middle ALL IN !
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if u reraise shove your hand is face up, the bb has nearly 1/2 his stack in and unless the sb has exactly KK the likely hood of extracting more from him is slim at best..
For this reason I prefer to call than shove. We can assume that we will get the rest of the BB"s stack in at some point - I"d be more concerned about getting the other stack in too so we can treble up.
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Your all very estute
I obviously pushed, the villian ( donk) said you must have a flush, but I"ve got outs, and I watched the 5h come on the turn. Goodbye and goodnight.
Flatting probably would have been the best option, but then I would have needed to fold when the board paired, and the bb would obviously have bet, or check raised
Boy do i run good, wish I hadn"t called the original bet
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Doesn"t really matter does it? Anything you do here is going to be super strong (unless you fold)
Calling and folding when the board pairs would be terrible too.
Just run better Foggy :)
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Forgot to mention the villian had kd kh
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Forgot to mention the villian had kd kh
play with him more :)
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Forgot to mention the villian had kd kh
Not really a villain then, is he :D
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Fold vs most Utg raises Fold to re raise Get it in on flop, i think
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Fold vs most Utg raises Fold to re raise Get it in on flop, i think
hahaha nice level
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Where have you been for the last 3weeks George ?
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Just wondering... do people fold the kk here? if in the villians shoes?