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Title: APAT UK Team Championship - October 2011 - Discussion Thread
Post by: Chipaccrual on August 15, 2011, 16:40:57 PM
The APAT UK Team Championship for Season Five will be held at the G Casino in Luton on October 22nd & 23rd, 2011. 

Following on from the very successful Team Championships of the past three seasons which were won by the Bristol & South West Meetup (Season 2), Team APAT (Season 3) and London Poker Meetup (Season 4), this event will again feature teams of 8 players, with 50% of the prize pool and National Medals going towards individual prizes, while the other 50% of the prize pool, plus the title and Championship Cup will be going towards the Team Championship.

Teams participating will be required to provide team shirts for their players and carry a thread and banner about the event on their forum.

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London Poker Meetup, Winner of the Season 4 Team Championship


The entry fee per player will be £50, with no registration fee being charged.  The event will consist of twenty-five teams of eight players per team. 

Please feel free to notify any other forums who you think would be interested in entering one team.

To apply to enter a team, please click the link below and send a message confirming :-

Name of Forum/Group
Name of Captain
Link to any website/forum etc.

CLICK TO MAKE A TEAM APPLICATION (http://www.apat.com/forum/index.php?action=pm;sa=send;u=8113)

Closing date for applications is Thursday 1st September 2011.

APAT will then make a decision on entries and announce the final team list on Monday 5th September 2011.

Full details of the event will be published shortly, but essentially it will be a two day, 10,000 chip deepstack with a 45 minute clock as with all APAT National Championship events.

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Niall Farrell, Winner of the Season 4 Individual Championship




This thread can be used to discuss the event, or ask any further questions, but applications for teams must be made via message using the link above.
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship
Post by: Chipaccrual on August 15, 2011, 16:49:52 PM
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Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship
Post by: Chipaccrual on August 15, 2011, 16:49:59 PM
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Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship
Post by: Paulie_D on August 15, 2011, 18:08:31 PM
The London Poker Meetup will happily defend their title.

Bring it!
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship
Post by: AceOnTheRiver on August 15, 2011, 18:56:35 PM
Will there be a separate thread about an APAT Team?
If so, Before or after the Sep 1st Deadline?
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship
Post by: Chipaccrual on August 15, 2011, 19:41:52 PM

Will there be a separate thread about an APAT Team?
If so, Before or after the Sep 1st Deadline?


APAT will definitely have at least one team.  Details to follow.
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship
Post by: morlspin on August 15, 2011, 20:55:58 PM
PM Sent, good luck everyone
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship
Post by: Jon MW on August 15, 2011, 21:03:58 PM
PM sent on behalf of Black Belt Poker, hoping to do better than last time.
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship
Post by: BOINGBLITZ on August 15, 2011, 21:08:08 PM
BCPC, including pub-poker individual Champion Tony Trippier, are up for this one. See ya all in Luton.
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship
Post by: AJDUK on August 15, 2011, 22:02:39 PM

BCPC, including pub-poker individual Champion Tony Trippier, are up for this one. See ya all in Luton.


... assuming you"re kind enough to pick us (he obv meant!)
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship
Post by: Chipaccrual on August 15, 2011, 22:15:02 PM


BCPC, including pub-poker individual Champion Tony Trippier, are up for this one. See ya all in Luton.


... assuming you"re kind enough to pick us (he obv meant!)


I wouldn"t worry about that.  He"ll be picking no one if he can"t follow simple instructions.   ;)
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship
Post by: AJDUK on August 15, 2011, 22:16:57 PM



BCPC, including pub-poker individual Champion Tony Trippier, are up for this one. See ya all in Luton.


... assuming you"re kind enough to pick us (he obv meant!)


I wouldn"t worry about that.  He"ll be picking no one if he can"t follow simple instructions.   ;)


Jeez I get it. You wrote it in bloody capitals too  (which is rather ironic) ;D
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship
Post by: Curlarge on August 15, 2011, 22:51:34 PM
The Elite Amateur Poker League will be hoping for an invitation to this most superb event at our home casino in sunny Luton. After a positive showing (5th = miles ahead of the BCPC) last time in Bolton, we hope to improve still further, if selected.
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship
Post by: ForthThistle on August 15, 2011, 23:29:10 PM
Blonde Poker would like to participate in this years Team Championships.


Many Thanks.
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship
Post by: Waz1892 on August 15, 2011, 23:41:58 PM
good luck leigh!  ;)
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship
Post by: suzanne on August 16, 2011, 00:20:56 AM
Bristol Meetup will be putting a team forward I am sure. I have posted the details.
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship
Post by: BOINGBLITZ on August 16, 2011, 01:05:34 AM
Does the fact that HE had already clicked and sent the details give us a glimmer of hope ??
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship
Post by: Chipaccrual on August 16, 2011, 08:25:35 AM

Does the fact that HE had already clicked and sent the details give us a glimmer of hope ??


My comment was because there wasn"t a message from you, which is unusual. Had plenty if others already through.

Do you want to send it again ?
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship
Post by: ashhen on August 16, 2011, 11:11:11 AM
Gambling Network Forum has also applied. Fingers crossed we get to try and win an even shinier medal this year.
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship
Post by: ashhen on August 16, 2011, 16:22:29 PM
Gambling Network is a fairly small forum but due to feedback from last year every regular poster there wants to play in Luton.

In the unlikely event you do not manage to find enough teams to play in this event then Gambling Network would be keen to sneak a second team into the mix.
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship
Post by: nosey-p on August 16, 2011, 16:34:30 PM

Gambling Network is a fairly small forum but due to feedback from last year every regular poster there wants to play in Luton.

In the unlikely event you do not manage to find enough teams to play in this event then Gambling Network would be keen to sneak a second team into the mix.


Good luck with that  8)
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship
Post by: rookieITB on August 16, 2011, 16:53:38 PM
ShrewdPoker (http://shrewdpoker.47.forumer.com/) would like a team please!
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship
Post by: Curlarge on August 16, 2011, 17:01:24 PM

ShrewdPoker (http://shrewdpoker.47.forumer.com/) would like a team please!


This taken from their forum "Who fancies poker and a piss up ? "

Gotta be a shoe in surely imo :D
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship
Post by: rookieITB on August 16, 2011, 17:08:15 PM


ShrewdPoker (http://shrewdpoker.47.forumer.com/) would like a team please!


This taken from their forum "Who fancies poker and a piss up ? "

Gotta be a shoe in surely imo :D


lol cheers!
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship
Post by: Colchester Kev on August 16, 2011, 17:19:19 PM


ShrewdPoker (http://shrewdpoker.47.forumer.com/) would like a team please!


This taken from their forum "Who fancies poker and a piss up ? "

Gotta be a shoe in surely imo :D


+1 :)
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship
Post by: BOINGBLITZ on August 18, 2011, 13:10:34 PM
Sent again Leigh. Can you confirm that you received it please ?

Also, did you receive my last PM with regards to my ideas about an event for next season ?.....you didn"t reply which was most unusual for you :)
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship
Post by: Chipaccrual on August 18, 2011, 13:29:52 PM

Sent again Leigh. Can you confirm that you received it please ?

Also, did you receive my last PM with regards to my ideas about an event for next season ?.....you didn"t reply which was most unusual for you :)


Thanks Brian, got it now.

Last PM i"ve got from you was about Blackpool medals.  Had a quick scan through ones before that and can"t see anything.

I may have missed it, if so, my apologies.
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship
Post by: teamdobb on August 20, 2011, 19:03:47 PM
Newcastle Poker Forum would once again like to take part in this event and make the long journey South to hopefully lift the title it has always wanted to win
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - October 2011
Post by: The Klup on August 21, 2011, 11:50:24 AM
iloveplayingpoker would like to sponsor a team to participate.

Regards

Dinos "The Klup" Patrinos :D
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - October 2011
Post by: The Klup on August 21, 2011, 12:08:29 PM
If you need me to organise two teams I would be happy to get a second group together from the Betfair Poker Forum as well.

Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - October 2011
Post by: Hulmer on August 23, 2011, 23:42:11 PM
Pokersharkmagazine are up for it please :-)
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - October 2011
Post by: karen on August 24, 2011, 10:33:55 AM
Essex Home Game Forum,   Please as Luton is my local be rude not to   :)
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - October 2011
Post by: Curlarge on August 24, 2011, 10:49:21 AM

Essex Home Game Forum,   Please as Luton is my local be rude not to   :)


Hi Karen

As the captain elect of APAT Luton, can I ask if you and your forum members have joined APAT Luton poker club. If not, please scroll down from the main page to southern poker clubs and follow the links. We are in Div. 1 and are very active in seeking new members. if you need anything else please let me know.
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - October 2011
Post by: deanp27 on August 24, 2011, 12:51:25 PM
Eatmystack would like to enter a team again please
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - October 2011
Post by: Spirey on August 24, 2011, 13:33:31 PM
FISO.CO.UK would like to enter a team again please

3rd in APAT team event 2008

2nd in the Newcastle forum team championships 2011

regular players from the APAT circuit

thanks

:)

have sent the PM application

i think

posted here too just in case
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - October 2011
Post by: Chipaccrual on August 24, 2011, 13:57:42 PM
All received so far guys.  Many thanks.
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - October 2011
Post by: deanp27 on August 24, 2011, 20:30:55 PM
Presume "pros" are ok in this event as in previous years?
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - October 2011
Post by: Chipaccrual on August 24, 2011, 20:38:29 PM

Presume "pros" are ok in this event as in previous years?


If you have "pros" as part of your forum/group and they want to participate then that is not a problem as this is an open event.
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - October 2011
Post by: Waz1892 on August 24, 2011, 21:49:05 PM


Essex Home Game Forum,   Please as Luton is my local be rude not to   :)


Hi Karen

As the captain elect of APAT Luton, can I ask if you and your forum members have joined APAT Luton poker club. If not, please scroll down from the main page to southern poker clubs and follow the links. We are in Div. 1 and are very active in seeking new members. if you need anything else please let me know.


Warren "likes"   ;D
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - October 2011
Post by: karen on August 24, 2011, 22:30:34 PM



Essex Home Game Forum,   Please as Luton is my local be rude not to   :)


Hi Karen

As the captain elect of APAT Luton, can I ask if you and your forum members have joined APAT Luton poker club. If not, please scroll down from the main page to southern poker clubs and follow the links. We are in Div. 1 and are very active in seeking new members. if you need anything else please let me know.


Warren "likes"   ;D
I have now added my 888 alias to the Luton page, and will play the online games,   all the other"s live in Essex, so its just me.
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - October 2011
Post by: Waz1892 on August 24, 2011, 23:05:11 PM




Essex Home Game Forum,   Please as Luton is my local be rude not to   :)


Hi Karen

As the captain elect of APAT Luton, can I ask if you and your forum members have joined APAT Luton poker club. If not, please scroll down from the main page to southern poker clubs and follow the links. We are in Div. 1 and are very active in seeking new members. if you need anything else please let me know.


Warren "likes"   ;D
I have now added my 888 alias to the Luton page, and will play the online games,   all the other"s live in Essex, so its just me.


Karen, Great news, and if your fellow colleagues wish to join they may do so, if they feel Luton is there nearest club on offer.  There is no real restrictions, just an underwritten rule that you join the nearest club to you. 

Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - October 2011
Post by: s4ooter on August 27, 2011, 23:53:00 PM
The www.inthemuckpoker.com (http://www.inthemuckpoker.com)podcast team have submitted their entry
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - October 2011
Post by: Irene5 on August 29, 2011, 03:44:25 AM
TKP pls. Forum to follow

Orange army are taking the NPF down innit ;o)

xx
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - October 2011
Post by: Matt D on August 29, 2011, 15:53:54 PM
How many teams have registered so far? If you"re struggling for entrants, I think Bristol Meetup Group can probably get 2 teams together if needed.
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - October 2011
Post by: TightEnd on August 29, 2011, 17:12:50 PM

TKP pls. Forum to follow

Orange army are taking the NPF down innit ;o)

xx


Irene, we"ll take a Sky Poker team I would think, not a new forum representing one of the team groupings within Sky Poker

It is an event likely to be oversubscribed, so its "whole" forums only
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - October 2011
Post by: TightEnd on August 29, 2011, 17:18:56 PM

How many teams have registered so far? If you"re struggling for entrants, I think Bristol Meetup Group can probably get 2 teams together if needed.



thanks but we are looking oversubscribed

(subtext, one Bristol team is sufficient LOL)
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - October 2011
Post by: Irene5 on August 30, 2011, 12:57:29 PM


TKP pls. Forum to follow

Orange army are taking the NPF down innit ;o)

xx


Irene, we"ll take a Sky Poker team I would think, not a new forum representing one of the team groupings within Sky Poker

It is an event likely to be oversubscribed, so its "whole" forums only


Hey Tighty!

Sigh, it sure looks like a "whole" forum, if a little new!

http://teamkp.freeforums.org/index.php (http://teamkp.freeforums.org/index.php)

To be fair although we all play on Sky everyone plays elsewhere too. We wanted to apply as TKP, in our own right. As I understand it Sky will not be entering a team this year.

Are you telling us not to apply as it would be a waste of time? If thats the case will it be the same every year? I would apprecite some feedback dear so we know what to aim for. Can you please send me a list or a link as to what the basic forum entry criteria is please? I"m not trying to be difficult, it"s just disappointing considering how much work has been put in by the team to try and get a place this year.

xx
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - October 2011
Post by: Paulie_D on August 30, 2011, 13:07:45 PM
Larry Murphy"s all over again! LOL ;D
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - October 2011
Post by: TightEnd on August 30, 2011, 13:45:58 PM
Irene

We have a precedent here of not allowing forums specifically created to get a group of people into this event (last year) to enter.

Places are at a premium and its unlikely we"d remove an established forum for a new team made up of a brand new forum. Criteria include support of APAT in the past, likely support of APAT in the future etc etc  

Sky Poker has a vibrant and active forum which I am sure we would like to participate, TKP is part of that forum. Persuade them to enter a team, and you be that team!
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - October 2011
Post by: mrmacacan on August 30, 2011, 22:49:06 PM
Think i might be a bit late for this.

The Garage Team.


But you never know.

chorleypokerleague.co.uk

8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - October 2011
Post by: AceOnTheRiver on August 31, 2011, 06:54:10 AM
Will there be a Sunday side event at this?
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - October 2011
Post by: TightEnd on September 01, 2011, 09:10:10 AM

Will there be a Sunday side event at this?


What would you like?

I can arrange one


Entries for this close tomorrow night fellas, will announce next week
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - October 2011
Post by: AMRN on September 01, 2011, 10:45:18 AM


Will there be a Sunday side event at this?


What would you like?

I can arrange one



Omaha Hi/Lo (Pot Limit though, and not the DTD No Limit version :) )
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - October 2011
Post by: nosey-p on September 01, 2011, 11:19:28 AM


Will there be a Sunday side event at this?


What would you like?

I can arrange one


Entries for this close tomorrow night fellas, will announce next week



Razz
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - October 2011
Post by: TightEnd on September 01, 2011, 11:23:23 AM
If you have applied for a team in this event but have not posted on this thread please do so

With leigh"s departure, and not wanting to bother him, I would like to ensure that no team falls through the cracks


thanks
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - October 2011
Post by: Mikeyboy9361 on September 01, 2011, 12:33:14 PM
LBPN have Pmd our details to Leigh for consideration, way back when. Having had a FT representative at the last two team events I hope you will look favourably on our application. Cheers.
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - October 2011
Post by: Des on September 01, 2011, 12:34:28 PM
We have access to all the team entry details guys, so no need to repost your interest here. :)
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - October 2011
Post by: jaysdad on September 01, 2011, 13:23:58 PM
not sure if this has been asked; Why is this not january like normal?
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - October 2011
Post by: Des on September 01, 2011, 13:29:16 PM

not sure if this has been asked; Why is this not january like normal?


The reason that we moved this event was due to having several away legs in the second half of this season.  So for example we have legs in Ireland, USA, Czech Republic in addition to a pro-am.  To have the UK Team event in January would have meant a lot of our regular players not getting a game between the WCOAP ending and the end of January.
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - October 2011
Post by: Paulie_D on September 01, 2011, 13:47:30 PM
It"s also been moved closer to London so as to prefer the current champions!  ;D

Or Not.
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - October 2011
Post by: PHIL_TC on September 01, 2011, 14:17:00 PM


Will there be a Sunday side event at this?


What would you like?

I can arrange one



Tighty SNG"s
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - October 2011
Post by: nosey-p on September 01, 2011, 14:17:12 PM

It"s also been moved closer to London so as to prefer the current champions!  ;D

Or Not.


Or not for me  :D
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - October 2011
Post by: AceOnTheRiver on September 01, 2011, 14:50:24 PM


Will there be a Sunday side event at this?

What would you like?

I can arrange one


Great. Last Year"s PL Stud was good fun. PLO8 is good although we have had one of those this season. Last year"s Razz at The Vic was fun and I don"t think we"ve had one since. Do Luton have enough dealers who can deal 2-7 Triple draw or is that a silly suggestion?

PL Stud gets my vote but I"d be happy with any of the above just don"t make it PLO as Ger will feel obliged to laugh and point at me!
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - October 2011
Post by: Sugar_Free on September 01, 2011, 19:10:20 PM
thanks but we are looking oversubscribed



As always.

I had an idea today so I thought I"d best write it down, feel free to tell me why it won"t work. There seem to be plenty of players in this every year who make it through to the last 50, score points for their team but have no chance to make it to the team medals so only have the solo prize to go for. Likewise, there are always plenty of forums (fora?) who apply but don"t make the cut. Why not make it so that the top 10/15 teams in this year get automatically into next years event, while the rest have to playoff online, say 6-8 weeks beforehand,  for the remaining places along with the other teams who wish to enter, same format (8 players per team, screen names announced before the event) except that with online results every team member"s position could count. This way, everyone who scores points in the main event will be affecting their team, and also every forum interested has a chance of playing.

Matt
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - October 2011
Post by: AMRN on September 01, 2011, 19:31:00 PM

thanks but we are looking oversubscribed



As always.

I had an idea today so I thought I"d best write it down, feel free to tell me why it won"t work. There seem to be plenty of players in this every year who make it through to the last 50, score points for their team but have no chance to make it to the team medals so only have the solo prize to go for. Likewise, there are always plenty of forums (fora?) who apply but don"t make the cut. Why not make it so that the top 10/15 teams in this year get automatically into next years event, while the rest have to playoff online, say 6-8 weeks beforehand,  for the remaining places along with the other teams who wish to enter, same format (8 players per team, screen names announced before the event) except that with online results every team member"s position could count. This way, everyone who scores points in the main event will be affecting their team, and also every forum interested has a chance of playing.

Matt


Well Rich, there"s something for you to chew on............   imo a decent concept.
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - October 2011
Post by: Paulie_D on September 01, 2011, 19:57:58 PM


thanks but we are looking oversubscribed



As always.

I had an idea today so I thought I"d best write it down, feel free to tell me why it won"t work. There seem to be plenty of players in this every year who make it through to the last 50, score points for their team but have no chance to make it to the team medals so only have the solo prize to go for. Likewise, there are always plenty of forums (fora?) who apply but don"t make the cut. Why not make it so that the top 10/15 teams in this year get automatically into next years event, while the rest have to playoff online, say 6-8 weeks beforehand,  for the remaining places along with the other teams who wish to enter, same format (8 players per team, screen names announced before the event) except that with online results every team member"s position could count. This way, everyone who scores points in the main event will be affecting their team, and also every forum interested has a chance of playing.

Matt


Well Rich, there"s something for you to chew on............   imo a decent concept.


Sure...but we"ve hashed this over before.

The only team (AFAIK) guaranteed a place are the previous year"s winners (Thank God).

EDIT: Except for, perhaps, an APAT Team.

Every forum/team has to re-apply and while there will be repeats they are all judged on what they can bring to APAT. Once again, this event is like no other in APAT (except, perhaps, for this year"s Pub Event).

It"s not about making the existing membership happy, it"s about bringing new people into the APAT fold.

Guaranteeing the top 10/15 teams from last year get in doesn"t do that.

Factor in that the "online" element suggested doesn"t work for forums that have drop-outs or want to have the option of picking from a larger player base and the whole thing falls apart.

Like I said, this has all been hashed over more than once.
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - October 2011
Post by: Jon MW on September 01, 2011, 20:09:12 PM



thanks but we are looking oversubscribed



As always.

I had an idea today so I thought I"d best write it down, feel free to tell me why it won"t work. There seem to be plenty of players in this every year who make it through to the last 50, score points for their team but have no chance to make it to the team medals so only have the solo prize to go for. Likewise, there are always plenty of forums (fora?) who apply but don"t make the cut. Why not make it so that the top 10/15 teams in this year get automatically into next years event, while the rest have to playoff online, say 6-8 weeks beforehand,  for the remaining places along with the other teams who wish to enter, same format (8 players per team, screen names announced before the event) except that with online results every team member"s position could count. This way, everyone who scores points in the main event will be affecting their team, and also every forum interested has a chance of playing.

Matt


Well Rich, there"s something for you to chew on............   imo a decent concept.


Sure...but we"ve hashed this over before.

The only team (AFAIK) guaranteed a place are the previous year"s winners (Thank God).

EDIT: Except for, perhaps, an APAT Team.

Every forum/team has to re-apply and while there will be repeats they are all judged on what they can bring to APAT. Once again, this event is like no other in APAT (except, perhaps, for this year"s Pub Event).

It"s not about making the existing membership happy, it"s about bringing new people into the APAT fold.

Guaranteeing the top 10/15 teams from last year get in doesn"t do that.

Factor in that the "online" element suggested doesn"t work for forums that have drop-outs or want to have the option of picking from a larger player base and the whole thing falls apart.

Like I said, this has all been hashed over more than once.


I think the relegation/promotion idea is definitely worth considering.

If the bottom 3 teams were relegated it would give those who were definitely getting a place longer to plan and schedule, it would also guarantee that there would have to be a new mix of teams each year - without it being a completely new competition.

The online factor would be a worry though - primarily live teams plus teams with close affiliations to an online site which wasn"t the sponsor (Black Belt, Betfair, The Hendon Mob (maybe?)  for example) might have difficulty in getting a team of players to play for a competitor site - meaning once relegated they"d stay relegated.

I don"t see a problem with relegation of the bottom 3 teams and promotion decided by APAT management - i.e. similar to now but with guaranteed relegation and with longer for the teams definitely in to be able to plan.
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - October 2011
Post by: Sugar_Free on September 01, 2011, 20:13:02 PM

Sure...but we"ve hashed this over before.

The only team (AFAIK) guaranteed a place are the previous year"s winners (Thank God).

EDIT: Except for, perhaps, an APAT Team.

Agree with the APAT forum team getting a wildcard (if needed)

Every forum/team has to re-apply and while there will be repeats they are all judged on what they can bring to APAT. Once again, this event is like no other in APAT (except, perhaps, for this year"s Pub Event).

It"s not about making the existing membership happy, it"s about bringing new people into the APAT fold.

Guaranteeing the top 10/15 teams from last year get in doesn"t do that.

And when you can"t get a full team from your forum, making up the balance of your team from APAT regs does?

Factor in that the "online" element suggested doesn"t work for forums that have drop-outs or want to have the option of picking from a larger player base and the whole thing falls apart.

Why can"t you pick 8 players from however large a player base you have? You"ll have to do it for the live event! As for dropouts, doesn"t every forum have a chance of that?

Like I said, this has all been hashed over more than once.
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - October 2011
Post by: Paulie_D on September 01, 2011, 20:17:32 PM


I think the relegation/promotion idea is definitely worth considering.

If the bottom 3 teams were relegated it would give those who were definitely getting a place longer to plan and schedule, it would also guarantee that there would have to be a new mix of teams each year - without it being a completely new competition.



I don"t see a problem with relegation of the bottom 3 teams and promotion decided by APAT management - i.e. similar to now but with guaranteed relegation but with longer for the teams definitely in to be able to plan.


Jon, I see where you"re coming from but again I say, this isn"t a league or "top 10%" thing that APAT are running here.

Let us suppose that Larry Murphy"s ( ;D) experiences an explosion of members and they all love playing poker. Perhaps only one or two them have ever heard of APAT but (and this is the overriding factor) they all want to be involved where they haven"t been before.

By letting them in (perhaps ousting Blonde?) APAT might gain hundreds of new eager members.

Under any of the proposed schemes this just wouldn"t happen.

Forums/Teams don"t earn a place in this specific event by being the best at online poker or even live poker, it"s about growing APAT and the criteria for entry are completely different

I"m more than happy for Des/Richard decide on the best way forward on this type of event.
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - October 2011
Post by: Paulie_D on September 01, 2011, 20:22:01 PM


And when you can"t get a full team from your forum, making up the balance of your team from APAT regs does?



OK, you have me there but it was an exceptional situtaion.

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Why can"t you pick 8 players from however large a player base you have? You"ll have to do it for the live event! As for dropouts, doesn"t every forum have a chance of that?



But you want to the whole forum to play the online element in the hope of being selected? What if only 4 of them are any good but finish well in the online...does the whole team get selected?
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - October 2011
Post by: Jon MW on September 01, 2011, 20:28:34 PM



I think the relegation/promotion idea is definitely worth considering.

If the bottom 3 teams were relegated it would give those who were definitely getting a place longer to plan and schedule, it would also guarantee that there would have to be a new mix of teams each year - without it being a completely new competition.



I don"t see a problem with relegation of the bottom 3 teams and promotion decided by APAT management - i.e. similar to now but with guaranteed relegation but with longer for the teams definitely in to be able to plan.


Jon, I see where you"re coming from but again I say, this isn"t a league or "top 10%" thing that APAT are running here.

Let us suppose that Larry Murphy"s ( ;D) experiences an explosion of members and they all love playing poker. Perhaps only one or two them have ever heard of APAT but (and this is the overriding factor) they all want to be involved where they haven"t been before.

By letting them in (perhaps ousting Blonde?) APAT might gain hundreds of new eager members.

Under any of the proposed schemes this just wouldn"t happen.

Forums/Teams don"t earn a place in this specific event by being the best at online poker or even live poker, it"s about growing APAT and the criteria for entry are completely different

I"m more than happy for Des/Richard decide on the best way forward on this type of event.



errrr really, did you read what I wrote?

Guaranteed relegation for the bottom 3 teams to be replaced with another 3 teams who may or may not have been a part of the team championships before.

How does that not meet your criteria?

EDIT: the only way it"s different is that most teams will know in advance they"ll be playing - it means that a whole set of 10 teams can"t be introduced in one year, for example, but how likely is that to happen anyway?
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - October 2011
Post by: Sugar_Free on September 01, 2011, 20:31:34 PM



And when you can"t get a full team from your forum, making up the balance of your team from APAT regs does?



OK, you have me there but it was an exceptional situtaion. And thank God you did Paulie lol

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Why can"t you pick 8 players from however large a player base you have? You"ll have to do it for the live event! As for dropouts, doesn"t every forum have a chance of that?



But you want to the whole forum to play the online element in the hope of being selected? What if only 4 of them are any good but finish well in the online...does the whole team get selected? How you select your team is up to you, play a prequalifier qualifier, pick your best online players then change them for the live event if you like, or some other way, its up to the team captain. All I"m saying is you"ll have to pick 8 for the live event from the whole forum regardless of size, why not the qualifier?

Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - October 2011
Post by: Paulie_D on September 01, 2011, 20:46:14 PM


How you select your team is up to you, play a prequalifier qualifier, pick your best online players then change them for the live event if you like, or some other way, its up to the team captain. All I"m saying is you"ll have to pick 8 for the live event from the whole forum regardless of size, why not the qualifier?[


Because you seem to be saying that the online qualifier will decide whether your team gets in based on one or two results...and that doesn"t work for this event.

It won"t because it"s not about how good they are...it"s about expanding APAT.

Believe me, the current APAT membership is gagging to have a bucketload of new fish involved.
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - October 2011
Post by: Paulie_D on September 01, 2011, 20:51:13 PM


errrr really, did you read what I wrote?


Not really, because, with all due respect, you"re missing my message.

This isn"t about being the best forum team, it"s about bringing new people to APAT.

What if blonde do really well at this years event but come next year there are only 10 of you posting in there but there"s a half a dozen new forums with 100k members gagging to get in?

What if you relegate a forum because they failed this year but they add 100k new users in the intervening 12 months?

At the moment, all but two teams are relegated and have to re-qualify under the criteria I"ve set out before. Isn"t that better?
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - October 2011
Post by: morlspin on September 01, 2011, 22:13:15 PM
Just to confirm, PuntersLounge have applied and would be honoured to play again

GL with the selections
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - October 2011
Post by: Lazlo21 on September 01, 2011, 22:28:55 PM
Not sure if Robert has sent in Hendon Mob app? So have resent to be certain.
Apologies if this is duplicated.

Gary Peniket
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - October 2011
Post by: MarkTheShark on September 02, 2011, 08:38:47 AM
To confirm, LivePubPokerLeague have applied.
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - October 2011
Post by: doublebubble on September 02, 2011, 12:31:59 PM
Please please please can I confirm an interest to log an application from

IPE website would promote this on www.ipeuk.com and www.aworldofpoker.com

Just been pointed to this thread by Dave "allthecash" Garden. Usually he lets me know alot earlier however think he is still drunk from his recent APAT victory  
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - October 2011
Post by: jayteejack on September 02, 2011, 16:56:32 PM


not sure if this has been asked; Why is this not january like normal?


The reason that we moved this event was due to having several away legs in the second half of this season.  So for example we have legs in Ireland, USA, Czech Republic in addition to a pro-am.  To have the UK Team event in January would have meant a lot of our regular players not getting a game between the WCOAP ending and the end of January.

i think for this reason we shouldn"t have this event and have a normal two day event instead. as a result regular players(like last year) wont have a game for the rest of the year using the exact argument mentioned above.
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - October 2011
Post by: jaysdad on September 03, 2011, 15:57:14 PM
Are you aware that you clash with the Boyle Poker IPO in Dublin?
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - October 2011
Post by: Paulie_D on September 03, 2011, 16:09:05 PM

Are you aware that you clash with the Boyle Poker IPO in Dublin?


More like they clash with us.

Sabotage I call it.
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - October 2011
Post by: TightEnd on September 03, 2011, 16:13:39 PM

Are you aware that you clash with the Boyle Poker IPO in Dublin?


Yes

The chances of finding a weekend without a clash are remote

The vast majority of players potentially in this won"t be Dublin bound, anyway.
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - October 2011
Post by: mrmacacan on September 03, 2011, 17:24:15 PM
Clicked on the entry link twice last week and filled in and sent.

Should this show in my messages as a sent item, because it is not showing.

Can you please confirm that you have received it from me,

Cheers.

8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - October 2011
Post by: TightEnd on September 03, 2011, 18:08:43 PM

Clicked on the entry link twice last week and filled in and sent.

Should this show in my messages as a sent item, because it is not showing.

Can you please confirm that you have received it from me,

Cheers.

8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)


yes
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - October 2011
Post by: mrmacacan on September 03, 2011, 20:54:37 PM


Clicked on the entry link twice last week and filled in and sent.

Should this show in my messages as a sent item, because it is not showing.

Can you please confirm that you have received it from me,

Cheers.

8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)


yes



lol, do you mean yes you received it or yes it should be in my sent box ?

8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - October 2011
Post by: mrmacacan on September 05, 2011, 12:52:42 PM
Any news ?????????????????/


8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - October 2011
Post by: TightEnd on September 05, 2011, 13:16:11 PM
A suggested line up is in my colleague"s Inbox

Once we have discussed it we will announce, asap
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - October 2011
Post by: Paulie_D on September 05, 2011, 16:27:04 PM
Announced (http://www.apat.com/forum/index.php?topic=9555.0)

Barrack away.... ;D
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - October 2011 - Discussion Thread
Post by: Matt D on September 05, 2011, 18:21:31 PM
Thank you from GNF for our spot in this year"s event.
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - October 2011 - Discussion Thread
Post by: Paulie_D on September 05, 2011, 18:23:16 PM

Thank you from GNF for our spot in this year"s event.


The LPM will be happy to take the same spot in this year"s competition as last year.  ;D
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - October 2011 - Discussion Thread
Post by: mrmacacan on September 05, 2011, 18:27:28 PM
Chorley Poker League or at this moment gathering up a army ready to march on Luton.

Bring it on.


Thank you for the opportunity.


8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - October 2011 - Discussion Thread
Post by: Matt D on September 05, 2011, 19:23:37 PM


Thank you from GNF for our spot in this year"s event.


The LPM will be happy to take the same spot in this year"s competition as last year.  ;D

Aye, we were a narrow 3rd last year (should have been 2nd/1st really, but having AA vs KK aipf teammate vs teammate didn"t help matters! ;))
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - October 2011 - Discussion Thread
Post by: s4ooter on September 05, 2011, 19:41:26 PM



Thank you from GNF for our spot in this year"s event.


The LPM will be happy to take the same spot in this year"s competition as last year.  ;D

Aye, we were a narrow 3rd last year (should have been 2nd/1st really, but having AA vs KK aipf teammate vs teammate didn"t help matters! ;))


or AA < KJ < AK aipf with 2 tables left
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - October 2011 - Discussion Thread
Post by: Matt D on September 05, 2011, 20:17:05 PM
Not sure if this has already been covered, but can"t find it using the search option.

Are there going to be any side events? I think I read somewhere about an omaha/nlhe round of each?

Is the captain allowed to be a non-playing member of the team? e.g. like my celebrity lookalike Colin Montgomerie in the Ryder Cup.
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship
Post by: suzanne on September 08, 2011, 21:58:33 PM

Bristol Meetup will be putting a team forward I am sure. I have posted the details.


FML my name didnt get pulled out of the hat  :"(

Side event link is here Matt  http://www.apat.com/forum/index.php?topic=9559.0
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship
Post by: TightEnd on September 08, 2011, 22:53:25 PM


Bristol Meetup will be putting a team forward I am sure. I have posted the details.


FML my name didnt get pulled out of the hat  :"(

Side event link is here Matt  http://www.apat.com/forum/index.php?topic=9559.0


Bristol Meetup was one of the selected teams and they didn"t choose you?

My oh my


try apat team, blonde team etc
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship
Post by: suzanne on September 08, 2011, 22:57:57 PM



Bristol Meetup will be putting a team forward I am sure. I have posted the details.


FML my name didnt get pulled out of the hat  :"(

Side event link is here Matt  http://www.apat.com/forum/index.php?topic=9559.0


Bristol Meetup was one of the selected teams and they didn"t choose you?

My oh my


try apat team, blonde team etc


It was a random draw, fairly done, I was just unlucky.

Application in for Apat and name on the list for blonde ;)
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship
Post by: Santino67 on September 18, 2011, 14:34:58 PM




Bristol Meetup will be putting a team forward I am sure. I have posted the details.


FML my name didnt get pulled out of the hat  :"(

Side event link is here Matt  http://www.apat.com/forum/index.php?topic=9559.0


Bristol Meetup was one of the selected teams and they didn"t choose you?

My oh my


try apat team, blonde team etc


It was a random draw, fairly done, I was just unlucky.

Application in for Apat and name on the list for blonde ;)


Well done Suzanne, looking forward to being team mates  ;D
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - October 2011 - Discussion Thread
Post by: teamdobb on September 27, 2011, 20:11:48 PM
will there be any betting odds being offered like in the previous 2 years by any of the major bookmakers?
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - October 2011 - Discussion Thread
Post by: TightEnd on September 28, 2011, 09:23:17 AM

will there be any betting odds being offered like in the previous 2 years by any of the major bookmakers?


Previously when sponsored by Blue Square or Betfair it made sense to do a betting market alongside. The market was purely a function of the sponsorship, not because the firms thought there would be a broad book to be made!

There are no plans this year
Title: Re: APAT UK Team Championship - October 2011 - Discussion Thread
Post by: dazzammm on October 23, 2011, 15:43:13 PM
what time is this due to finish?

ive got a couple of hours to kill in luton at midnight tonight