Amateur Poker Association & Tour
Poker Forum => World Championship of Amateur Poker (WCOAP) => Live Archive => Live Poker => WCOAP 2008 - 2012 => Topic started by: TightEnd on August 18, 2011, 09:54:57 AM
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Final event details for players who have entered events in the World Championship Of Amateur Poker ("WCOAP"), are as follows:
DATES
The World Championship of Amateur Poker will feature the World Team Championships, a three day main event and five one day side events as follows:
Thu 25th August - 2:30pm - WCOAP World Amateur Team Championship - Day 1
Fri 26th August - 2:45pm - WCOAP World Amateur Team Championship - Day 2
Sat 27th August - 2.30pm - WCOAP World Amateur Poker Championship - Day 1a
Sun 28th August - 2.30pm - WCOAP World Amateur Poker Championship - Day 1b
Mon 29th August - 2.30pm - WCOAP World Amateur Poker Championship - Day 2
Thu 25th August - 3.00pm - WCOAP Stud Amateur Poker Championship
Fri 26th August - 3:00pm - WCOAP Heads Up Amateur Poker Championship
Sat 27th August - 3:00pm - WCOAP H.O.R.S.E. Amateur Poker Championship
Sun 28th August - 3:00pm - WCOAP 6 Max Amateur Poker Championship
Mon 29th August - 3:00pm - WCOAP Pot Limit Omaha Amateur Poker Championship
VENUE
Dusk Till Dawn
Redfield Way
Boulevard Retail Park
Lenton
Nottingham
NG7 2UW
Opening Times
Thursday 26th August - 1:00pm
Friday 27th August - 1:00pm
Saturday 28th August - 1:00pm
Sunday 29th August - 1:00pm
Monday 30th August - 1:00pm
DRESS CODE
Clean and tidy dress is strongly recommended.
By order of the Cardroom - No football shirts, no ripped jeans, no tracksuit bottoms. Regular Jeans and Trainers are absolutely fine.
REGISTRATION
For registration you are required to complete a Venue Membership Form and produce a valid proof of identification.
You can fill in the Dusk Till Dawn Membership Form via Dusk Till Dawn Membership Form via this link (http://www.dusktilldawnpoker.com/join.php) and complete your registration by showing identification at the venue on your first day of play.
Please note that any friends or family members that wish to accompany you into the Venue will also have to complete a Venue Membership Form.
Registration is only available to individuals aged 18 years of age and older, with a valid proof of identification.
IDENTIFICATION
Please bring a valid Passport or Drivers License. If you do not have one of those, then a credit card AND recent utility bill will suffice. Your guests will also need to bring a similar proof of identity.
If you cannot present valid identification at Dusk Till Dawn, you will not be allowed to enter the premises.
SCHEDULE
Play commences as outlined in the dates schedule above.
The Heads Up, Stud, Omaha, 6 Max and Horse events will be completed in one day, while the World Amateur Poker Championship event will be played over three days.
Play is expected to finish in the World Amateur Poker Championship at around 1.30am on day 1a and 1b. Players left in will return for a 2.30pm start on Monday, with the final expected to finish early Tuesday morning.
Due to the nature of tournament Poker, end of day timings are estimated.
STRUCTURE
The structures for each event are available if you click here (http://www.apat.com/forum/index.php?topic=6776).
APAT WCOAP World Amateur Team Championship 2011
The format of the Team event is:
Day One
2:30pm 3 x 8 handed, 4 x 7 handed NLHE STT (1st=7pts, 2nd=6pts........7th=1pt, 8th=0pts)
5:30pm 3 x 8 handed, 4 x 7 handed PLO STT (1st=7pts, 2nd=6pts........7th=1pt, 8th=0pts)
9:00pm 39 x HU Matches - 6 per team (1st=4pts, 2nd=0pts)
Total points allocated for Day 1 = 548
Maximum Team points for Day 1 = 80
Day Two
2:30pm 3 x 8 handed, 4 x 7 handed NLHE STT (1st=7pts, 2nd=6pts........7th=1pt, 8th=0pts)
6:00pm 52 Runner MTT (1st=26pts, 2nd=25pts........25th=2pts, 26th=1pt)
Total points allocated for Day 2 = 547
Maximum Team points for Day 1 = 126
Notes
Due to the 13 teams, we will be running a number of 7 handed STT"s. Points for those tables will be exactly the same as the 8 handed ones, without an 8th place getting 0pts.
The MTT will only alllocate points to the top 26 finishers (50% of the field). We will run hand for hand at 27 (3 tables of 9 players)
All Captains should check in at the APAT Admin desk on the lower tier of the card-room floor on arrival for payment of entry fees and for seat draws.
PRIZES
For all events will be announced once the final number of players is known. Each event will payout to a traditional payout structure
Alternates will be allowed the opportunity to take part during the first two levels in all events.
The alternates will be chosen from the APAT controlled reserve list started at the venue. This will enable a small number of additional members to participate.
Under our terms & conditions, APAT will not support deal making. These are unique International Championship events and the onus is on every player to try their utmost to win it outright.
Please note that all entrance fees will be paid out in prize money. APAT will not retain any fee for running any event in the World Championship of Amateur Poker.
ADDED VALUE
An added value seat into a DTD Live Tournament will be awarded to the winner of each Live and Online WCOAP event.
Main Event = 300 Deepstack - £300+£36
Side Events (x5) = Incredible 100 - £100+£12
Player of the Series = 150 Deepstack - £150+£18
Main Event (Online) = 150 Deepstack - £150+£18
Side Events (Online) (x4) = Super 50 - £50+£8
Players names will be confirmed to DTD and players will contact DTD customer services to confirm which tournament they wish to play in.
PLAYER LIST
Full player lists will be published once Online entry closes, subject to receipt of names from the venue
Online Entry closes on Monday 22nd August on DTDPoker.com. Any remaining seats will be on sale at DTD from Wednesday 24th August once the club opens.
PRESS
Journalists, photographers and APAT tv will be present throughout the World Amateur Championship. By entering this tournament you accept that your image may be used in APAT press and marketing campaigns.
LIVE UPDATE
Technology allowing, APAT will run live updates on the events and we will be posting player pictures and chip counts throughout the WCOAP. Feel free to tell your friends and family, who can follow request details of your progress by registering for free on the forum.
TERMS AND CONDITIONS
Please note the event is subject to the terms & conditions of the Amateur Poker Association & Tour.
CANCELLATIONS
Once a seat has been sold, refunds will not be made.
Players will be able to utilise the APAT Seat Exchange board to trade their seat at the face value.
Seat Exchange Guidelines apply.
FINALLY...
As a member of the Poker Association, we would like you to be aware of your role in our collective responsibility to ensure that the WCOAP is memorable for every participant, and not just the winners at the end. We would appreciate you doing your bit to ensure that every player comes away having had the best possible tournament experience.
It only remains for all of us at APAT to wish every player the best of luck in the events.
Richard Prew, Live Events
APAT Poker Association & Tour
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Could we have the structures for the other events please?
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Could we have the structures for the other events please?
the link shows the structure for the Main and Side events, yes?
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Could we have the structures for the other events please?
the link shows the structure for the Main and Side events, yes?
Yeppers. Here it is for anyone who missed it>>> http://www.apat.com/forum/index.php?topic=6776
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All Captains should check in at the APAT Admin desk on the lower tier of the card-room floor on arrival for payment of entry fees and for seat draws.
For any players unsure where the APAT Admin Desk is, or what Tighty or myself look like, here"s an image of what to expect at DTD. Tighty is the one on the left, as always (We"re pokers answer to Ant and Dec) ;D
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-1X4vVRObxP4/TkzreIbgfJI/AAAAAAAAEOs/UHUmQxji-G0/APAT%252520Desk.jpg)
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Leigh / Richard
Can you clarify a few things as there"s one or two inconsistencies?
At the top of this thread it says that HU is at 2.30pm and the Stud is at 3pm but the Structures thread has it the other way round. Can you confirm which is correct?
In the structures thread for the STUD it says starting stack - 6,000 but a few lines down it says Chips - 4,000. Can you confirm which is correct?
I know that there has been discussion around the HU event on the discussion thread and people had asked for a deeper stack in the earlier rounds. The structures sheet says 2,500. Is that correct and does that apply to all rounds?
Finally can you confirm how many points will be awarded in side events for the rankings (Not the "Player of the Series" but the ongoing APAT rankings) and is it 1st to 18th in the Main?
That"s it for now - Really looking forward to this whole event which I know would not be possible without the work you do.
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Are there really no antes for the 6 max?
Can we have a points system for the team event? I have come to my lake Garda retreat to plot my strategy and really need this info...
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Are there really no antes for the 6 max
Good spot Rob, would like antes for sure, not that usually make it that far
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If I remember correctly - there were antes last yr, so I assume it will be the same structure.
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Timings are correct on this thread, I have altered the Structures thread
6000 for the Stud, Antes for the 6 Max, 2,500 throughout for the HU
Points system for the team event coming shortly
Rankings I will check with the Rankings guru, system will be identical to last year
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Rankings I will check with the Rankings guru, system will be identical to last year
9 points to 1 for the side events
9,8,7,6,4,4,4,4 for 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th-8th for HU then
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Rankings I will check with the Rankings guru, system will be identical to last year
9 points to 1 for the side events
9,8,7,6,4,4,4,4 for 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th-8th for HU then
Uncanny. Appears from nowhere and saves me searching, ty
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Thanks Both.
Stud looks good!
HU will raise a few eyebrows but I will assume you guys have had the debate with DTD and that"s that?
Jon - Will this be the same for the online series? (I should have asked that initially)
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Thanks Both.
Stud looks good!
HU will raise a few eyebrows but I will assume you guys have had the debate with DTD and that"s that?
Jon - Will this be the same for the online series? (I should have asked that initially)
HU. Function of resource, dealing requirement and time. Yes has been discussed, cogitated and digested.
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Thanks Both.
Stud looks good!
HU will raise a few eyebrows but I will assume you guys have had the debate with DTD and that"s that?
Jon - Will this be the same for the online series? (I should have asked that initially)
HU. Function of resource, dealing requirement and time. Yes has been discussed, cogitated and digested.
not ruminated?
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Stud looks good!
TY mate nice of you to say so, personally I think I"m a tad overweight, but still, cheers ;D
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Stud looks good! But sat tends to show a little overhang!! ;)
TY mate nice of you to say so, personally I think I"m a tad overweight, but still, cheers ;D
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Appreciate there will be reasons behind the HU structure, but even so, it is pretty disappointing. I will be travelling a 180 mile round trip to play a tourney where the average stack will be 12.5xBB after just 40 minutes. Considered unregistering, but don"t want to miss any of the events - feels like we may as well be flipping coins though.
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Appreciate there will be reasons behind the HU structure, but even so, it is pretty disappointing. I will be travelling a 180 mile round trip to play a tourney where the average stack will be 12.5xBB after just 40 minutes. Considered unregistering, but don"t want to miss any of the events - feels like we may as well be flipping coins though.
Have you moved?
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Appreciate there will be reasons behind the HU structure, but even so, it is pretty disappointing. I will be travelling a 180 mile round trip to play a tourney where the average stack will be 12.5xBB after just 40 minutes. Considered unregistering, but don"t want to miss any of the events - feels like we may as well be flipping coins though.
Have you moved?
No - still 90 miles from DTD
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Appreciate there will be reasons behind the HU structure, but even so, it is pretty disappointing. I will be travelling a 180 mile round trip to play a tourney where the average stack will be 12.5xBB after just 40 minutes. Considered unregistering, but don"t want to miss any of the events - feels like we may as well be flipping coins though.
Can"t put my feelings down any better than Steve already has.
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Appreciate there will be reasons behind the HU structure, but even so, it is pretty disappointing. I will be travelling a 180 mile round trip to play a tourney where the average stack will be 12.5xBB after just 40 minutes. Considered unregistering, but don"t want to miss any of the events - feels like we may as well be flipping coins though.
Can"t put my feelings down any better than Steve already has.
+1
Last year there were deeper structures for the later rounds and we were done and dusted by 10pm having started at 3pm - 30 mins later than this year (allbeit there is an extra round this year). Is there any pressure on us to finish by a similar time because if not I see no problem with the event going on till midnight or beyond?
I know you guys will do what you have to do but a deeper stack throughout would be very well received
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Stud looks good!
TY mate nice of you to say so, personally I think I"m a tad overweight, but still, cheers ;D
hee hee i think you look skinny..............kind of
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Appreciate there will be reasons behind the HU structure, but even so, it is pretty disappointing. I will be travelling a 180 mile round trip to play a tourney where the average stack will be 12.5xBB after just 40 minutes. Considered unregistering, but don"t want to miss any of the events - feels like we may as well be flipping coins though.
Can"t put my feelings down any better than Steve already has.
+1
Last year there were deeper structures for the later rounds and we were done and dusted by 10pm having started at 3pm - 30 mins later than this year (allbeit there is an extra round this year). Is there any pressure on us to finish by a similar time because if not I see no problem with the event going on till midnight or beyond?
I know you guys will do what you have to do but a deeper stack throughout would be very well received
+1 :(
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Yup, I will have another chat with them before we get to Nottingham
They are a bit busy this weekend.
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As are you Tighty, so thanks for looking into it.
PS - DTD website has some of the wrong info I pointed out earlier - 4k stack in the Stud & 3pm start in the HU
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Hell, I"d volunteer to deal if it were allowed!
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As are you Tighty, so thanks for looking into it.
PS - DTD website has some of the wrong info I pointed out earlier - 4k stack in the Stud & 3pm start in the HU
thanks. I need to speak to Simon Trumper
as to self deal, we know its not permitted in DTD. All about standards.
Of course the venue has a myriad of compensations for not offering self-deal
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Stud looks good! But sat tends to show a little overhang!! ;)
Slaughtered cheers ;D
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a) Stud starting stack will be 6k.
b) HU starting stack up to 3k (and then again up in the later rounds)
c) Online buy in will close today. Entry at the club only from then on for the few events with seats remaining (Stud, Omaha, Main)
Seats available for the Stud (plenty), Omaha (25 or so), Main Event (300 sold, 110 remain). These are on sale at DTD once the online entry closes. Would expect Omaha and Main to sell out by the weekend. Leigh Wiltshire may have news on a very small number of HU seats coming freee later today.
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a) Stud starting stack will be 6k.
b) HU starting stack up to 3k (and then again up in the later rounds)
c) Online buy in will close today. Entry at the club only from then on for the few events with seats remaining (Stud, Omaha, Main)
Seats available for the Stud (plenty), Omaha (25 or so), Main Event (300 sold, 110 remain). These are on sale at DTD once the online entry closes. Would expect Omaha and Main to sell out by the weekend. Leigh Wiltshire may have news on a very small number of HU seats coming freee later today.
Thanks Rich
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Right then folks, WCOAP Seat News................
The ONLY way you can grab a seat now is to buyin direct at DTD.
There are seats available for
Stud (24),
Heads Up (2),
Omaha (24)
Main Event 1a (60)
Main Event 1b (28).
Payment is in GBP and is £53+£0 for side events and £106+£0 for the main event.
All events are capped and the HORSE and 6 Max are completely sold out.
Numbers in brackets are the number of seats available as at 7pm on Wednesday
Good Luck.
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Can someone be bought in to the main event at DTD by proxy, or do they have to physically be there?
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Can someone be bought in to the main event at DTD by proxy, or do they have to physically be there?
You can PM a mate and they could buy you in, for Saturday
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Anyone know where i can find the confirmed player list for day 1a and 6max?
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Anyone know where i can find the confirmed player list for day 1a and 6max?
DTD website has the list for main event, assume for the 6max too, but havent looked.
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Anyone know where i can find the confirmed player list for day 1a and 6max?
DTD website has the list for main event, assume for the 6max too, but havent looked.
Yes
For 1a the following 9 players are not on the DTD club list yet as they have not been to the club before (but we know they have bought in online)
They need to be manually entered tomorrow at the cash desk
Debbie Kimm
Steven Jackson
James Starkey
Ian Gregory
Lukas Dasynski
R Duffin
D Duffin
C Duffin
S Berridge
If you are one of those, go to the cash desk when you arrive please
Numbers 1b is sold out
1a has 175 in with about 35 seats left which will go on the day to locals