The Rail On Sunday - 19/08/12

[Santino67]

well, SB shove with Q7, called by K6 that hits two pair. Gone in 20th for $49.47.

One day I"ll make a FT on Stars.

Cheers Grant for the rail.

Poor call for 10 BBs and half his stack with K6os FFS  

[dwh103]

well, SB shove with Q7, called by K6 that hits two pair. Gone in 20th for $49.47.

One day I"ll make a FT on Stars.

Cheers Grant for the rail.

Poor call for 10 BBs and half his stack with K6os FFS  

Technically it"s within the correct calling range if I"m shoving Nash.

However this is in a vacuum and assumes I"m shoving Nash (if I"m shoving tighter/wider, he"ll need to adjust accordingly), and ignores other factors (opponents, ICM) that may make it more +EV to pick a different spot. In actuality I"m shoving ATC (because the average player calls far tighter than is optimal) - if he knows/assumes this then a call is more +EV.

Shoving Q7o and calling K6o are both pretty much marginal spots with 11BBs (no antes) according to Nash. Once antes are added both actions become quite trivial in a nutshell.

[Santino67]

well, SB shove with Q7, called by K6 that hits two pair. Gone in 20th for $49.47.

One day I"ll make a FT on Stars.

Cheers Grant for the rail.

Poor call for 10 BBs and half his stack with K6os FFS  

Technically it"s within the correct calling range if I"m shoving Nash.

However this is in a vacuum and assumes I"m shoving Nash (if I"m shoving tighter/wider, he"ll need to adjust accordingly), and ignores other factors (opponents, ICM) that may make it more +EV to pick a different spot. In actuality I"m shoving ATC (because the average player calls far tighter than is optimal) - if he knows/assumes this then a call is more +EV.

Shoving Q7o and calling K6o are both pretty much marginal spots with 11BBs (no antes) according to Nash. Once antes are added both actions become quite trivial in a nutshell.

Yeah totally agree but given that the only hands you"ve shown for a good while were killing that, should"ve made him think it"s a very poor spot he"s in

[dwh103]

well, SB shove with Q7, called by K6 that hits two pair. Gone in 20th for $49.47.

One day I"ll make a FT on Stars.

Cheers Grant for the rail.

Poor call for 10 BBs and half his stack with K6os FFS  

Technically it"s within the correct calling range if I"m shoving Nash.

However this is in a vacuum and assumes I"m shoving Nash (if I"m shoving tighter/wider, he"ll need to adjust accordingly), and ignores other factors (opponents, ICM) that may make it more +EV to pick a different spot. In actuality I"m shoving ATC (because the average player calls far tighter than is optimal) - if he knows/assumes this then a call is more +EV.

Shoving Q7o and calling K6o are both pretty much marginal spots with 11BBs (no antes) according to Nash. Once antes are added both actions become quite trivial in a nutshell.

Yeah totally agree but given that the only hands you"ve shown for a good while were killing that, should"ve made him think it"s a very poor spot he"s in

I"d love to get inside his head and see what he was thinking. I"d love to do a 20 player ICM calc but that"s impossible as I don"t have everyone"s chip counts (and it would be mega difficult anyway) and see whether the $ consideration is significant.

He could be a genius. Or a fortunate mouth breather.