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Drewski

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Too Tight?
« on: March 20, 2014, 17:40:14 PM »
Hi Guys

Currently playing the micro millions £2.20. Had this hand not long ago and wanted to see what others would do?

PokerStars Hand #113566057770: Tournament #872136749, $2.00+$0.20 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XIX (600/1200) - 2014/03/20 17:07:24 WET [2014/03/20 13:07:24 ET]
Table "872136749 408" 9-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: deimian85 (94642 in chips)
Seat 2: asusman1 (38918 in chips)
Seat 3: Short&Stout (22334 in chips)
Seat 4: Bushinskii (43777 in chips)
Seat 5: MAPOKA (27032 in chips)
Seat 6: andyhuk (47423 in chips) - HERO
Seat 7: Reniminator (13932 in chips)
Seat 8: Takiya (24414 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 9: 0bjective (16680 in chips)
deimian85: posts the ante 150
asusman1: posts the ante 150
Short&Stout: posts the ante 150
Bushinskii: posts the ante 150
MAPOKA: posts the ante 150
andyhuk: posts the ante 150
Reniminator: posts the ante 150
Takiya: posts the ante 150
0bjective: posts the ante 150
andyhuk: posts small blind 600
Reniminator: posts big blind 1200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to andyhuk [Ts Jh]
Takiya: folds
Bushinskii is disconnected
0bjective: folds
deimian85: folds
asusman1: folds
Short&Stout: folds
Bushinskii: folds
MAPOKA: raises 1200 to 2400
andyhuk: calls 1800
Reniminator: folds
*** FLOP *** [4c Ac Td]
andyhuk: checks
MAPOKA: checks
*** TURN *** [4c Ac Td] [Jd]
andyhuk: bets 2400
MAPOKA: calls 2400
*** RIVER *** [4c Ac Td Jd] [Qs]
andyhuk: bets 3600
MAPOKA: raises 18482 to 22082 and is all-in
andyhuk: folds [Ts Jh]

Too tighter fold?




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Re: Too Tight?
« Reply #1 on: March 20, 2014, 18:25:50 PM »
Not at all tight.

All his A10+ range beats us! as do all his Kx hands and a lot of the Qx stuff. We"re not beating much at all.
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Re: Too Tight?
« Reply #2 on: March 20, 2014, 19:25:24 PM »
What is the bet on the river? for value? as a bluff? as a blocker bet?

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Re: Too Tight?
« Reply #3 on: March 20, 2014, 19:58:34 PM »
Fold or 3bet pre. Villain has a stack size where a small 3b puts a lot of pressure on him. Peeling out of position is not likely to be profitable with effective stacks of about 23BBs.

Have no issues with turn and river bets (well, maybe river bet is arguable - any Villain tendencies?), as long as you knew what you were going to do against Villain action. Doubt he"ll make this move with a busted flush draw without having had a stab on flop or raised the turn. As played, guess you have to fold, it just looks like a value hand - KQ/KJ/KT or something like that. Even a dirty two pair like QT or QJ gets there.

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Re: Too Tight?
« Reply #4 on: March 20, 2014, 20:40:18 PM »
Yeah dwh has nailed it really.
Probably just c/f river but not a fan of calling out of the SB here. It pays to be snug out if the SB, especially with these stack sizes.
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Re: Too Tight?
« Reply #5 on: March 20, 2014, 21:32:27 PM »
I was actually turning my two pair into a bluff on the river trying to rep a value bet with a King, my thinking that a lot of hands fold here that my two pair doesn"t beat.

However this player had been very active from all positions and did consider Ax to very possible in this situation so was not sure if it was too tight a fold.

Yes agree with the poor decision pre flop. Calling out of the small blind with hands like this is certainly a leak of mine.