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shozboy1

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mid-late stage tourney play
« on: December 17, 2009, 14:07:15 PM »
Hi Guys, although I"ve been an APAT member for a while I"ve not really been on the sites boards, so here"s my 1st topic starter. Wanted to know what people"s opinions were when playing in the following situation:

The tourney is approaching the bubble
You have 15-25 BBs left

I"m sure most people would be in agreement that stacks of 15ish BBs are obvious shove/fold situations no matter what the stage of the tourney.

I guess I"m wondering about whether we should be employing simple blind stealing plays with say 25BBs. You can imagine that in raising, then cbetting a flop with 25BBs, if you face resistance with no hand yourself you have to fold. You automatically catapult yourself into 15BB territory earlier then you would"ve been if a steal attempt goes wrong. Additionally, steal attempts are always harder to execute on active aggressive tables.

Would a valid alternative be to use all in re-steals as a technique in these situations? This would be in the form of coming over the top of an active player"s late position raise. You obviously put your tourney at risk and potentially go out close to the bubble, but whats the alternative? Min cashing?

What do others think, and is this a play which can be done with any 2 cards?
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Re: mid-late stage tourney play
« Reply #1 on: December 17, 2009, 14:44:20 PM »
Stole from someone else who I am sure nicked it from someone else but the basis is very good:

50 - 25BBs you open light and three bet tight. 35BBs or less never 3 bet with the intention of folding.

25BBs -12BBs you open tight and three bet light. 25BBs or less if you 3 bet you shove.

12BBs or less you should just open shove. Once you below 20BBs don"t open a pot and fold at any point thereafter.

Hope this helps..

deanp27

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Re: mid-late stage tourney play
« Reply #2 on: December 17, 2009, 14:50:02 PM »
basically what James said but adjusted for factors such as:

average stack
type of tourney - turbo etc
table image of you and opponents to act after you
bubble dynamics
relative stacks of opponents at the table

15-25bigs is definitely a resteal stack rather than a steal stack
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Re: mid-late stage tourney play
« Reply #3 on: December 17, 2009, 16:27:13 PM »
This is helpful. thanks
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Re: mid-late stage tourney play
« Reply #4 on: December 17, 2009, 19:18:03 PM »

Stole from someone else who I am sure nicked it from someone else but the basis is very good:

50 - 25BBs you open light and three bet tight. 35BBs or less never 3 bet with the intention of folding.

25BBs -12BBs you open tight and three bet light. 25BBs or less if you 3 bet you shove.

12BBs or less you should just open shove. Once you below 20BBs don"t open a pot and fold at any point thereafter.

Hope this helps..



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Re: mid-late stage tourney play
« Reply #5 on: December 18, 2009, 07:05:36 AM »

Stole from someone else who I am sure nicked it from someone else but the basis is very good:

50 - 25BBs you open light and three bet tight. 35BBs or less never 3 bet with the intention of folding.

25BBs -12BBs you open tight and three bet light. 25BBs or less if you 3 bet you shove.

12BBs or less you should just open shove. Once you below 20BBs don"t open a pot and fold at any point thereafter.

Hope this helps..



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like he says ""depends""

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