when i see shove in replies without any explaination as to why then i find it frustrating..
When a stack is an M of 10 or less the egg heads did the maths and came up with various push ranges based on how many players were left to act behind and there call ranges..
What you have to understand though is the edge u have by doing it and how your hand performs against the calling range.
In treys situation the effective stacks are all shallow and playing straight forward
all players at the table haven"t really got out of line
so if Trey shoves what would we expect to be called with? with it being a donkament generally these characters will look down at 88+, ATs+, AJo+ KQs and call , that is 7.39% of hands , so with 5 to act it is just a case of multiplying the times every1 folds - .93*.93*.93*.93*.93 = 70% [just doing this rough/approx but close enough] When u know player call ranges and the preflop pot size with a little bit of maths and a bit of tinkering with pokerstove u can work out what hands u can push from what position that will be +cEV no matter what if called by this range.. In treys situation ATs is towards the bottom of the range that he can push to be +cEV , if u guys do the maths you"ll work out u need 33% equity to break even [22+,ATs+,KTs+,QTs+,JTs,T9s,AJo+,KQo u can shove to be +cEV]
What u need to understand though is the variance because this is not a low variance approach and u"ll find yourself possibly getting frustrated when u hit the rough end of it [so be prepared]
The actual ROI% for shoving ATs here is 1.5% approx , so long term if u shove here everytime it is not a huge edge so please take that into account along with how close u are to the ITM positions..
If say Trey thought these guys were nitting it up and would only call AK QQ+ then your shove range to be break even plus would be a huge 62% edit [make that 100%] to risk a pick up of 13% to his stack...
This info will be old news to seasoned APATers but for those who are at the early stages of there poker learning hopefully this will be helpful to u....