Another omaha hand

[I Q8Holds I]

Not sure i like my 4bet not 100% what to do on flop opposition is super agro 3betting light easy here i mainly want someone to do the maths for me if his range is 2pair trips- and all draws+ combo draws

Hes capable of betting bare up and down or flush draw


PokerStars Game #65162303012:  Omaha Pot Limit ($2/$4 USD) - 2011/07/27 22:45:06 WET [2011/07/27 17:45:06 ET]
Table "Sharatan VIII" 6-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: Q8Holds ($1684.75 in chips)
Seat 2: aramesko ($400 in chips)
Seat 3: F.Briatore ($516.05 in chips)
Seat 5: Markuspocus ($305.90 in chips)
Seat 6: marcianovix ($462.70 in chips)
aramesko: posts small blind $2
F.Briatore: posts big blind $4
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Q8Holds [ ]
Markuspocus: folds
marcianovix: folds
Q8Holds: raises $10 to $14
aramesko: raises $32 to $46
F.Briatore: folds
Q8Holds: raises $96 to $142
aramesko: calls $96
*** FLOP *** [ ]
aramesko: bets $258 and is all-in

[Paulie_D]

I hate the 4 bet....KK single suited (even double suited) just doesn"t play well unless you smash the flop.

I"d prefer to limp-call and try and see a cheapish flop.

If you want the odds, I"d suggest pokerstoving it.

[I Q8Holds I]

I dont have any poker software . and Normally i couldn"t agree more paulie but this table was super agro i was happy to get kk in pre or on  a 1052 flop etc as this game was so aggresive. Every hand was opened and most were 3bet.

[Paulie_D]

I dont have any poker software.

Me neither but Pokerstove is an odds calculator [LINK].

Otherwise just try this [LINK]

[I Q8Holds I]

I refuse to use pokersoftware but ty

[Paulie_D]

I refuse to use pokersoftware but ty

i don"t use any myself either (even the stove) but if you need to know the odds after the fact (for your own edification)...it"s the "go to" option.

[I Q8Holds I]

Yeh suppose i just love live so hate all the maths/stats and stuff  

[Paulie_D]

Yeh suppose i just love live so hate all the maths/stats and stuff  

...but they say (whoever they are) that to improve you have to know this maths stuff.

Now what was it Barry Greenstein said again?  

Oh, yeah..."Math is idiotic. If you feel like you"re going to win, you"ve got to put it in."

[I Q8Holds I]

I agree with barry

although this hand is a maths spot and im pretty sure its a bad call [i won he had bare flush draw]but still think its bad

[AAroddersAA]

Don"t know about the hand, I would probably fold as I think he has Q-J-x-x or QQ or JJ but a question if you don"t mind David.

If you are not using Poker Tracker, how many tables do you play at once. How many would you recommend for playing deep stacked Omaha. There is much more flop play than HLHE in my experience.

[I Q8Holds I]

I don"t use any software, i 1-2 table and try to pick up on peoples tendancy"s there is quite a few bet sizing tells in peoples betting and alot more bluffing