Author Topic: Hand of the Day #2  (Read 8800 times)

0 Members and 5 Guests are viewing this topic.

KarmaDope

  • Platinum Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 1894
  • The Groom
    • Blonde Forum
Re: Hand of the Day #2
« Reply #15 on: July 30, 2013, 21:58:54 PM »
Not the BB, the big stack. If we bust the tournament now we win about $3. If we dont, we can still win about $120. Our equity if he calls light is not as good as if he folds and we win the blinds uncontested or face the shortstacked BB HU.
[IMG=http://www.vegasmessageboard.com/countdown/countdown.php?c=purple&f=3&y=2013&m=11&d=12&h=18&mi=20&o=0&p=1][/img]

Bigfella42

  • Staker Licensed Player
  • Silver Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 497
  • Vague memories of being in Vegas
Re: Hand of the Day #2
« Reply #16 on: July 30, 2013, 22:10:28 PM »
Sorry I meant the big stack. Still don"t get it, but it must be me  :D  You"re saying that even if we knew we were ahead of the big stack pre flop, we are better off passing as he might get lucky and hit? On that basis would we ever play a hand?
APAT Scotland runner up 2008
APAT Sotland final table 2009
If it's not in Scotland you can forget it!

KarmaDope

  • Platinum Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 1894
  • The Groom
    • Blonde Forum
Re: Hand of the Day #2
« Reply #17 on: July 30, 2013, 22:26:29 PM »

Sorry I meant the big stack. Still don"t get it, but it must be me  :D  You"re saying that even if we knew we were ahead of the big stack pre flop, we are better off passing as he might get lucky and hit? On that basis would we ever play a hand?


Nah, definitely not!

What I"m saying is that if we know the big stack is going to call with a lot of hands, we don"t win enough to justify the risk in ICM as chipEV does not equal $EV - the risk of losing all our chips and being eliminated from the tournament is more than what we get when he folds and we win the blinds.

If we know he folds a lot of hands but when he does call, we are dominated, we get him to fold enough times to make this a +EV play despite the fact that we invariably lose when he does call. Hence the silly thing of we want him to be a nit - our main target here is not to double up, it is to take the dead money with as little risk as possible.

(Don"t get me wrong, if I can see he has KT and he is going to call then I shove all day long!!)
[IMG=http://www.vegasmessageboard.com/countdown/countdown.php?c=purple&f=3&y=2013&m=11&d=12&h=18&mi=20&o=0&p=1][/img]

Drewski

  • New Member
  • *
  • Posts: 37
Re: Hand of the Day #2
« Reply #18 on: August 20, 2013, 20:31:04 PM »
Does anyone consider their M at this stage? It"s only 6.5 and aggression is key at this stage to make the finale table. So many other things to consider outside of the math like our table image, how tight the blinds have been? Have there been many light calls.

Personally I lean towards shove.

If you fold now, then later find you didn"t get many other good spots, would you look back at this hand and think you should have made your move?


AAroddersAA

  • Platinum Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 2609
Re: Hand of the Day #2
« Reply #19 on: August 21, 2013, 00:29:41 AM »
Great posts today Drewski. Please post more in this section.

I will try and respond to some of the points tomorrow.
-----------------------------

Still trying to think of something amusing to write in this bit.

Drewski

  • New Member
  • *
  • Posts: 37
Re: Hand of the Day #2
« Reply #20 on: August 21, 2013, 00:41:59 AM »
Thanks Rodders, not sure why I have not really been posting/visiting at poker forums. So much to learn from reading other opinions etc. Hoping people correct me more than anything :)