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Re: WCOAP 2014 - Bigger and Better...
« Reply #15 on: April 29, 2014, 15:25:36 PM »

If APAT members had wanted to do a £20 + £2 self-deal SNG, that can only represent a profit to Aspers, but it wasn"t an option. Perhaps there were legal issues but, AFAIK, we were just denied.


yep tried this, and was given a flat refusal - apparently it would be against casino policy.

we ended up with a dealer dealt private cash game. for that, we were charged half price rake (5% instead of 10%, but still capped at £5 - so actually no benefit), and had to pay an additional £1 from every raked pot into the local"s rake race.

At the time it felt that Aspers had done us a favour - in fact it was a bloody expensive favour!!

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Re: WCOAP 2014 - Bigger and Better...
« Reply #16 on: April 29, 2014, 16:11:13 PM »



Regarding  games and structures I thought overall it was all pretty spot on, only gripe was PLO8 and PLO where both in conjunction with ME days.. I know most Omaha fans would love to play these both over the festival, but if you want to play ME you have to give one up??  Surely it would be better to perhaps hold one of the other events like Razz or Stud on one of the ME days?


I have to disagree with Carl to a certain extent here.

From a personal standpoint I was more than happy to not play the main event to play both PLO & PLO8 especially this was the first (AFAIK) official APAT PLO8 event. I"d been asking for a PLO8 event for some time and was very happy to see it included in the WCOAP.

Missing the ME was not a concern for me.

I was slightly disappointed that Aspers had a policy of no self-deal though. I can understand the reasoning (mostly) but many other casinos APAT have visited have allowed this albeit with some negotiation as to table/card "rental" and chip stacks.

If APAT members had wanted to do a £20 + £2 self-deal SNG, that can only represent a profit to Aspers, but it wasn"t an option. Perhaps there were legal issues but, AFAIK, we were just denied.


Just interested though Paulie would you of played the ME if the 2 Omaha variants where not clashing with it?
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Re: WCOAP 2014 - Bigger and Better...
« Reply #17 on: April 29, 2014, 16:31:31 PM »


Just interested though Paulie would you of played the ME if the 2 Omaha variants where not clashing with it?


Probably not...
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« Reply #18 on: April 29, 2014, 16:33:01 PM »



Just interested though Paulie would you of played the ME if the 2 Omaha variants where not clashing with it?


Probably not...


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Re: WCOAP 2014 - Bigger and Better...
« Reply #19 on: April 29, 2014, 16:43:49 PM »




Just interested though Paulie would you of played the ME if the 2 Omaha variants where not clashing with it?


Probably not...


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Never...I"m not folding so why should I worry? )

I only had a certain amount of time &/or money to invest in the WCOAP so it was an easy decision. I"m more into 2+ cards than HE these days (and have been for some time) so APAT main events (whether WCOAP or "normal" APAT weekends) don"t appeal quite so much.

At any standard APAT event, I"d much rather play an "alternative" event on Saturday and a "side" event on Sunday than a ME.

I appreciate that this isn"t for everyone but adding more options on a Friday / Saturday would make it more of a weekend for me.

Obviously the HE hardcore purists would disagree but I"d rather see a 150 seat ME and a 50 seat PLO8 event on Saturday than just a 200 seat ME.

Anyway, that"s just me...probably because I"m not very good at Hold"Em. :)
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Re: WCOAP 2014 - Bigger and Better...
« Reply #20 on: April 29, 2014, 19:48:17 PM »
I only played the ME, so that"s the only thing I can comment on.  Overall, I thought the tournament was well run and, more to the point, lots of fun :)

With regards to the structure, and it"s a small point, I felt the antes were often a bit steep in comparison to the blinds (i.e. more than 1/10th of bb).

Also, it seemed like quite a shame that when we hit the final table the average stack was around 13bbs, making it a bit of a "pick a spot to shove" fest.  Poker is best from all perspectives, imo, when played down the streets, with battles of wits and nerve (or maybe it"s just me that gets off on that stuff!). Without taking anything from anyone who finalled, as it"s a long grind to get there, from my own personal POV, I couldn"t tell you who played particularly well or otherwise at the final because we just didn"t get the chance to see it.  The only reason I finished 6th rather than 7th, 8th or 9th was because the guys that finished in those positions found hands to shove and/or call with before me, so I got lucky by laddering.  That said, everyone was in the same boat, so it was a level playing field, and I"m not sure what can be done, if anything, to try to overcome this for future events.

As I said, overall was a fun tournament, and, after a long time away, I think I may have rediscovered my love for the game, and hope to make it to more APATs this year :)