AA lay down

[deanp27]

don"t think i could ever fold here

[Honeybadg]

This is now the undisputed most asked question and boring now in poker!! All that was missed off is its the first hand in the world series of poker etc
Almost as boring as bad beat stories (unless there your own of course lol)

... I thought you "folded" AA pre flop in the Main Event in Nottingham!?!

Louis

[kinboshi]

This is now the undisputed most asked question and boring now in poker!! All that was missed off is its the first hand in the world series of poker etc
Almost as boring as bad beat stories (unless there your own of course lol)

... I thought you "folded" AA pre flop in the Main Event in Nottingham!?!

Louis

[Claw75]

how many of you could find a fold here ?

[ ] me

[noble1]

Zeebo"s Theorem - Nobody ever folded a full house.

Reasoning: Nobody is good enough to fold a monster. Most players aren"t even good enough to fold a hand that looks like a monster but really isn"t.

Application: There are two basic applications to this theory. The first is that if you put your opponent on a full house and you can beat them, don"t be afraid to overbet/push the river. This is particularly true when there is three of a kind on the board. Players will call with an incredible range of full houses in that spot. It is true that some villain may fold 22 on a board with three aces. However, you have no way of knowing if they have 22 or TT so go ahead and felt them. You are losing value if you don"t. And sometimes they"ll call with 22 anyway.

The second thing to realize is to never try to bluff anyone off a full house. If you have 22 on a board with three Aces, don"t expect to be able to push 66 off his hand.

This theorem also generally applies to any monster over monster situation, from straight flush over quads/FH/nut flush down to set over set.

Reliability: This is the most reliable theorem. Nearly 100%. Somebody will post and argue that it is actually 100%.

If you are playing a good player who knows his onions,does laying down 2 aces/boat seem a possibility now? I know i"d find it extremely difficult against a poor player to even contemplate folding.

[LongshanksED]

I know I"ve folded a full house (I had a thread about it in the academy section somewhere ) but that was an obvious situation

also roberto romanello folded a full house in last years wsop main event and his opponent showed him the higher ful house

but to fold a full house to a 52/1 shot that he has the case 8 then so be it (I"m sure someone will give me the proper odds of opponent holding the last 8 soon enough )

[Honeybadg]

there are at least 2 top pros out there who would fold aces early on in the main event. They are Hellmuth and matasow.

They both know that you cant win a marathon tourney during the first level, but you can defenitly loose it. And they play far superior to all their opponents post flop that, they earn more chips when the blinds are higher in the later stadges without taking huge all in risks. Having said all that, i would never fold aces pre flop at any stadge of a big tourey.

What he said.

Watch the 2009 ME coverage you see Matusow fold  qs js with a 3 spade flop incase the guy has  :as: in his hand which he did.

Matusow failed to make the money so was this a good decision ... quite often with big folds people go out getting all their money in - in worse spots. How did he go out?

In absurd scenarios like 8 all ins in front of you I might fold ... but otherwise got to call.

L

[kinboshi]

[youtube=425,350]sGEhBuO9C98[/youtube]

But I wouldn"t fold AA in this spot

[WYoung83]

That is a hand that not many top players would ever fold. Mikes reaction is great, worth watching the video just for that. i wonder if it were hellmuth making this lay down, what would of he said?

"easy fold, what took you so long, u idiot"?

And by the way. wtf is wrong with facebook? anyone else having problems tonight?

[deanp27]

ROFL i wouldn"t even fold it 5 way - for the chip lead in the daily 80k

Poker Stars $50+$5 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t150/t300 Blinds + t25 - 9 players - View hand 292162
The Official DeucesCracked.com Hand History Converter

BTN: t7435       M = 11.01
SB: t9330       M = 13.82
BB: t5195       M = 7.70
UTG: t6435       M = 9.53
UTG+1: t1100       M = 1.63
UTG+2: t18231       M = 27.01
Hero (MP1): t17730       M = 26.27
MP2: t2019       M = 2.99
CO: t8918       M = 13.21

Pre Flop: (t675) Hero is MP1 with A :diamond: A :club:
1 fold, UTG+1 raises to t1075 all in, UTG+2 calls t1075, Hero raises to t3300, MP2 calls t1994 all in, 1 fold, BTN raises to t7410 all in, 2 folds, UTG+2 calls t6335, Hero raises to t17705 all in, UTG+2 calls t10295

Flop: (t46564) 9 :club: 5 :club: 5 :diamond: (5 players - 4 are all in)

Turn: (t46564) K :spade: (5 players - 4 are all in)

River: (t46564) 4 :heart: (5 players - 4 are all in)

Final Pot: t46564
BTN shows J :diamond: J :club: (two pair, Jacks and Fives)
UTG+1 shows 9 :spade: A :heart: (two pair, Nines and Fives)
UTG+2 shows Q :spade: Q :heart: (two pair, Queens and Fives)
Hero shows A :diamond: A :club: (two pair, Aces and Fives)
MP2 shows A :spade: K :heart: (two pair, Kings and Fives)
Hero wins t20590
Hero wins t16248
Hero wins t3676
Hero wins t6050