Random card genarator CAN IT REALLY BE TRUSTED OR PROVEN

[kinboshi]

For me Online is bad beat city ! I no you play more hands online so your going to be seeing more hands but tiime and time again the underdog sucks out.

At least live you can see the whites of there eyes ! Seem to win a hell of a lot more live than online. I no I am bucking the trend but I am moving to play all my Poker live rather than online now.

I also think maybe its the sites because I do seem to see a pattern, on PokerStars it feels like live real hands played to win but at the other end Sky Poker seems to be under dog city. Sky Poker in my view is not Poker its muppet poker and I feel for these players who learn there game there, when they go live they will be busted fish out of water lol

Whats Your View ?
Which sites do you rank to play Online ?

The reason there are more outdraws, is because more people are willing to stick their chips in when they"re behind.

If people don"t put their chips in when they"re behind, they can"t outdraw you.  If you"re an 80% favourite in a hand - it means that you"re going to lose 1 in 5 on average. 

Try something.  Whenever you get all your chips in, and then find out you"re a big favourite, note it down.  Note down if you win or lose.  You"ll find you win most of them. 

It"s called variance.  If you don"t like it, play chess or another game where luck isn"t an element.  In poker, especially in tournaments, you need luck to win.  To win consistently you need a good game.  You also need a bit of luck too.

Also, if you are the one doing the outdrawing - it means you"re getting your chips in with the worst of it.  

[duncthehat]

So Daniel at what point do you not put it down to variance but down to the poker gods remembering that as a kid I could tell what my Grandad had by looking at his glasses that reflected his cards in the lens.

Current record since I started noteing wins losses in coin flips on Joker Stars (45-55 per cent flips and better)  

W 11  L 42

Blue Square  W 7 L 8

Full Tilt  W 1 L 2

PKR (OK I own up I play there!)   W 12 L 10

I am beginning to wonder about a site that has its Random Generator scrutinised and Licensed in a South American Banana Republic!!!

[Jon MW]

A sample of less than a 100 is utterly meaningless.
A sample of less than a 1000, however, will only be quite meaningless - see what they say then.

[duncthehat]

I agree Jon, totally meaningless at the moment. 

Will keep you updated till it gets quite meaningless.

Sadly cant actually keep away from the site  grrrrrrrr

[Phil_Crozier]

You play on PKR  

[duncthehat]

 

Yep.

Some of the softest Limit players I have ever seen

Won the 10 buck Limit tourney 3 times in last 6 days

[Phil_Crozier]

I can"t do it, i looked like Mr T, and the camera kept aiming at the the same woman   i forgot i was even playing poker i thought i was on the sims.

[duncthehat]

I know its like admitting you like Kylie when you are 43

[Phil_Crozier]

It"s like admitting i watch Home and Away  

[kinboshi]

I know its like admitting you like Kylie when you are 43

You should like Kylie at ANY age.  Not her music though, just her.

As for the question about variance, there are two answers.  One Jon has covered - 100 hands isn"t a statistically significant sample.

The other answer is that you can play to avoid variance.  What I mean is that in tournaments, if you think you have an advantage over other players at the table you want to be avoiding coin-flips whenever possible.  Avoid the 55 v 45 races that you are obviously going to lose 45 times out of a hundred, especially if it"s your tournament life on the line. 

It might also be a case of avoiding certain tournaments that attract the players that will call as 35% underdogs for their tournament life.  If you"re willing to embrace the variance, you"re happy they"re getting it in with the worst of it (and be prepared to be sucked out on) - but if you want to avoid the variance, then you need to avoid these tournaments.

I think...