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Re: Flopping a Set
« Reply #15 on: January 10, 2008, 08:43:09 AM »

fold now

one of the fish has caugt a str8 or maybe a fh

even if you call the BB may reraise and where would you be then?


It won"t make a difference, but if you read the post, it"s the BB whose cards you are playing.
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Re: Flopping a Set
« Reply #16 on: January 10, 2008, 08:44:08 AM »

Jon, is this limit?  What"s with the bet amounts?


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Re: Flopping a Set
« Reply #17 on: January 10, 2008, 09:58:38 AM »
There is now 240 chips in the pot and the MP reraises you to 220 (now 660 in pot with 220 to call).....

Sorry but worth a call with the trips I wouldn"t reraise here but I do want to make sure he has the straight and isn"t trying to "float bluff" me.
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Re: Flopping a Set
« Reply #18 on: January 10, 2008, 10:19:48 AM »
I think you can make an argument for any of the 3 options.

That"s why I tried to avoid including anything leading to what I thought, because I really want to know what the general opinion would be.
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Re: Flopping a Set
« Reply #19 on: January 11, 2008, 01:38:50 AM »
Sorry to be a pedantic tosser but u haven"t flopped a set
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Re: Flopping a Set
« Reply #20 on: January 11, 2008, 07:53:16 AM »

Sorry to be a pedantic tosser but u haven"t flopped a set


I"ve been waiting for a post like this. wd george
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Re: Flopping a Set
« Reply #21 on: January 11, 2008, 09:33:08 AM »


Sorry to be a pedantic tosser but u haven"t flopped a set


I"ve been waiting for a post like this. wd george


So have I ;)

I don"t care is the answer.
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Re: Flopping a Set
« Reply #22 on: January 11, 2008, 10:12:00 AM »



Sorry to be a pedantic tosser but u haven"t flopped a set


I"ve been waiting for a post like this. wd george


So have I ;)

I don"t care is the answer.


Sorry for the blunt msg- had been drinking ;)

If I flop trips in a free roll I would lead with a hefty bet waiting for the re raise
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Re: Flopping a Set
« Reply #23 on: January 11, 2008, 23:33:09 PM »



First hand of a freeroll

Everybody has 1500 chips, blinds 10,20, and you know nothing about anyone.

MP limps, SB completes and in the big blind you check with  jd ks

The pot is 60
The flop is  8d jh js

SB checks

...


...
The bet was actually 20.
MP called
SB folded

Turn:
8d jh js   th

Pot: 100
...


The bet was 20 again - MP calls.

River:
8d jh js   th  9c

Pot: 140

BB: bets 100
MP:raises to 220

...


Anyway, he called and I won with a Queen high straight.

My first instinct was to post the hand and do a good bit of mocking about how he"d thrown away a pot by trying to slow play - and doing it badly.

But, I definitely didn"t put him on trips - so if a queen had come up, or if I was the type to bluff, he could have won a few chips from me. So I thought I"d throw it open to the floor to see what the opinion was of how others would have played it.


As far as I can tell the general consensus seems to be: it"s a freeroll - get all your chips in the middle whilst it"s a mistake for the other player to call. In a normal tournament I would assume, still fast play it, but a little bit more caution if the player and/or the texture of the board warrant it?


More generally I think "3 of a kinds" of any flavour should be an interesting area for analysis because they are strong enough to consider slow playing them, but there are still an awful lot of hands they are beaten by.

If anybody agrees with me, feel free to start a new thread or post in this one another example we can analyse.
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