Live Streams, good, bad or cheating

[TightEnd]

Taking the phones away not enough imo.
All the players do is go and ask their mates who are railing what the hands were.
Poker should be a game of incomplete information, instead to the outsider it just looks corrupt

Mates in the building should not be able to see the stream, that is the point. block the stream in the building hosting the event, take phones away.

You have a game with complete integrity

[Sugar_Free]

Taking the phones away not enough imo.
All the players do is go and ask their mates who are railing what the hands were.
Poker should be a game of incomplete information, instead to the outsider it just looks corrupt

Mates in the building should not be able to see the stream, that is the point. block the stream in the building hosting the event, take phones away.

You have a game with complete integrity

Until they go and ask their mates who still have their phones and are on the phone to their mates who are streaming it from home

[TightEnd]

Taking the phones away not enough imo.
All the players do is go and ask their mates who are railing what the hands were.
Poker should be a game of incomplete information, instead to the outsider it just looks corrupt

Mates in the building should not be able to see the stream, that is the point. block the stream in the building hosting the event, take phones away.

You have a game with complete integrity

Until they go and ask their mates who still have their phones and are on the phone to their mates who are streaming it from home

sure. Perhaps I am naive, never seen it happen!

[Des]

This sort of thing is going to become a fixture of the live game going foward so players are going to have to adapt accordingly.  

But, remember you can use live streaming to gather or "offer" information.  If you think a player is continually been fed hands from the rail, why not use this to your advantage instead of being worried about it?

Even if you don"t utilise streaming in that way, realistically, if you find out that a guy bluffed you with Queen Ten an hour ago, are you seriously thinking he"s at it all of the time?  

This will give about 5% of the info currently available through a HUD online.  And I would guess the info provided from the rail will always be about the headline anomoly hand and rarely about ranges, bet sizing, position and all of that other good stuff that could hurt you.

It really isn"t anything to get worked up about in my opinion.

[Honeybadg]

I watched a lot of the streaming of the final table and it would have been very useful to have a feed of the hands albeit 15 mins late.

The play was pretty 1D so if you were being fed decent info it could give an edge.

True a player could adjust but little sign of it.

If some of the players can gain an edge then it distorts the game (unless you give everyone full info!) hence you need to stop it being abused.

Much as it was very interesting that means killing the hole cards or increasing the delay.

Has it been debated on the Genting site - I have not had a chance to look.

L

[Sef]

I like the streaming concept of seeing hole cards as long as it"s protected. As mentioned they should not stream it in the venue at all. The grey areas are like you guys say the railers on the phone to mates sitting at home ect. that comes down to the player then and i would class that as cheating.